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09-21-2013, 07:33 AM
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Well this time speeding cost a child her life on our street.
We dont know yet if it is a neighbour child or not.
Will be going to lay a teddy bear in her memory so her seriously injured parents know someone else cared for their daughter.
Rest in peace pumpkin, you will be missed by many.
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09-21-2013, 08:15 AM
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What an awful thing to happen. Poor child......the parents must be devastated..
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09-21-2013, 08:30 AM
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Sad to hear. Unfortunately the prevailing wisdom on this site is that traffic enforcement is merely tax collection and police should be focusing on 'real' criminals instead. Yet people die every day in this Province, in this Country because of drivers that don't obey traffic laws. 
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09-21-2013, 08:45 AM
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Sad to hear. Unfortunately the prevailing wisdom on this site is that traffic enforcement is merely tax collection and police should be focusing on 'real' criminals instead. Yet people die every day in this Province, in this Country because of drivers that don't obey traffic laws. |
Well said.
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09-21-2013, 12:08 PM
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Terrible. Story I read says she was thrown from the vehicle after being t-boned by a pickup that ran a red light. I cant even imagine what that would do to me as a parent. My heart goes out to them.
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09-21-2013, 12:13 PM
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My biggest fear come true.
Had many speeders like that on our residential street where we used to live, and not just going a little fast but deliberately going way to fast. Cops actually said to me , 'what are we supposed to do about it?'
So sorry
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09-21-2013, 03:01 PM
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Unfortunately Yes.
The driver of the pickup was drunk.
Want to really puke........ we laid a stuffy at 8am and when we arrived home at 3 it had been stolen.
Plus their still racing up and down our street to get in and out of that freaking arena.
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09-21-2013, 03:25 PM
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It was a horrible situation, but if rhe driver was indeed impaired, then the actual cause of the accident was inpaired driving.
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09-21-2013, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
It was a horrible situation, but if rhe driver was indeed impaired, then the actual cause of the accident was inpaired driving.
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And running a stoplight and maybe no seatbelt if the child was thrown from the vehicle.
Edit: I shouldnt say the seatbelt caused the accident but it may have been a contributing factor in the fatality.
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09-21-2013, 03:43 PM
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Very sad to hear. But people have no respect for anything anymore. Yesterday as I was driving 30 km in a playground zone by a school some idiot went on the wrong side of the road and passed me. I know the plate # and vigilante justice will come!!! This was at lunch hour with kids out on the street
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09-21-2013, 03:45 PM
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Wow...the guy who made the statement about being in front of the van is pretty powerful.....feel the crash....no squealing tires....and a poor innocent child died for what? Quite the article..hopefully it makes people think.
What a horrible tragedy.
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09-21-2013, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
Unfortunately Yes.
The driver of the pickup was drunk.
Want to really puke........ we laid a stuffy at 8am and when we arrived home at 3 it had been stolen.
Plus their still racing up and down our street to get in and out of that freaking arena.
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where does it say that the driver was drunk?
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09-22-2013, 08:41 AM
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where does it say that the driver was drunk?
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Lets say I talked with my neighbours who were at the scene
now its in the news
The girl was 11, and her life was ended.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/09/21...-year-old-girl
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Police say alcohol and excessive speed are being investigated as possible factors in a two-vehicle crash that killed an 11-year-old girl.
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09-22-2013, 09:33 AM
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No no Fishing Mom, let's not gossip/speculate and say "i talked with my neighbours who where at the scene". Your last link to the Calgary Sun article states that "booze and speeding" are being investigated and that is standard investigative procedure in major traffic accidents and tragedies such as these.
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09-22-2013, 10:19 AM
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No no Fishing Mom, let's not gossip/speculate and say "i talked with my neighbours who where at the scene". Your last link to the Calgary Sun article states that "booze and speeding" are being investigated and that is standard investigative procedure in major traffic accidents and tragedies such as these.
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Agreed. A very unfortunate event nonetheless...
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09-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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Shock can make a person appear impaired, So can several medical conditions. I can certainly understand your eagerness to call out the lynch mob when a child has been killed but one should always be very careful before stating a suspicion as fact.
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09-22-2013, 05:30 PM
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Shock can make a person appear impaired, So can several medical conditions. I can certainly understand your eagerness to call out the lynch mob when a child has been killed but one should always be very careful before stating a suspicion as fact.
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Don't you know on AO suspicion and hearsay are more credible than facts!! 
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09-22-2013, 05:45 PM
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Absolutely not! The cause was speeding, plain and simple! You can drive fast or slow when you are impaired, the cause was speed and the sooner people realize that it is speed that is the cause of the majority of our accidents, the better!
I in no way condone drinking and driving, but 'way too many times, it's an excuse for doing something else wrong if you really get down to it, whether it's breaking traffic laws, spousal abuse or whatever.....
Whether the driver was drinking or not, if he/she was obeying the (traffic) laws, this poor child would still be alive!
Let the flaming begin!!
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It was a horrible situation, but if rhe driver was indeed impaired, then the actual cause of the accident was inpaired driving.
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09-22-2013, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktye
Whether the driver was drinking or not, if he/she was obeying the (traffic) laws, this poor child would still be alive!
Let the flaming begin!!
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I'd never "flame" ya for something like that!
The entitled jerk ran a red and killed a child.
Drunk or not, hang him anyway - then he'll never do it again.
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09-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktye
Absolutely not! The cause was speeding, plain and simple! You can drive fast or slow when you are impaired, the cause was speed and the sooner people realize that it is speed that is the cause of the majority of our accidents, the better!
I in no way condone drinking and driving, but 'way too many times, it's an excuse for doing something else wrong if you really get down to it, whether it's breaking traffic laws, spousal abuse or whatever.....
Whether the driver was drinking or not, if he/she was obeying the (traffic) laws, this poor child would still be alive!
Let the flaming begin!!
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If he ran a red light as some people are posting, then running the light was the cause, and being impaired may have been a contributing factor in running the light. It wouldn't matter how fast he was driving, if he had stopped for the light.
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09-22-2013, 06:36 PM
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Horrible.
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People will NEVER learn. It's almost futile to try (ALMOST). Have to keep trying, though.
My heart goes out to the family. I can only imagine
People can be very short sighted and heartless.
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
If he ran a red light as some people are posting, then running the light was the cause, and being impaired may have been a contributing factor in running the light. It wouldn't matter how fast he was driving, if he had stopped for the light.
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Let me guess your one of those people who thinks your MAGICALLY impaired at 0.08BAC and anything below that does not impair your judgement at all.
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09-22-2013, 08:28 PM
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One has to wonder if she had a seatbelt on as she was ejected from the van...
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09-22-2013, 08:42 PM
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Let me guess your one of those people who thinks your MAGICALLY impaired at 0.08BAC and anything below that does not impair your judgement at all.
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As usual, your guess is far from reality.
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09-22-2013, 08:44 PM
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One has to wonder if she had a seatbelt on as she was ejected from the van...
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Sheer force and the speed is likely to have played a huge factor.
That truck flipped a couple of times. you can clearly see it when your at the scene.
Sitting here in my office listening to cars racing past.
Once you come off the base of the Y there is nothing to slow people down as they up either arm of the Y towards 52nd street which is where this happened. On my arm of the Y we do have a playground zone with a school in it and some sharp turns, but that doesnt encourage anyone to slow down.
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Sad to hear that a little kid had their life ended way too soon.
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09-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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"With so many different ways to get home safely, there are just no excuses to drink and drive", says Cpl. Bert Paquet of the Surrey RCMP.
"Impaired driving is still the leading criminal cause of death in Canada so while the majority of drivers get the message, we will enforce all applicable laws on those who don’t."
NOT SPEEDING!
Why the BC RCMP changed focus of enforcement efforts to impaired drivers and skip the smoke and mirrors about speeding tickets. (Taxation)
MVA Deaths have declined dramatically. The stats are a matter of public record.
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