Private Hip Surgery

[Gabby61]

Im sure there has already been a thread on this, but has anyone had private Hip Surgery, if so, how did it turn out and where did you go?

[KC1]

MIL had private knee surgery done in Kalispell.
Overall she was happy with it.

[ÜberFly]

A ski guide friend of mine's partner (also a ski guide) went to India a number of years ago to get his done (CBC did a documentary on him). He could get it done in about 6 months and they worked with his doctors here. He had a very positive experience and was pretty much 5* treatment. Not sure of the cost (relatively speaking it was cheap - I'll throw out $15,000, but don't remember), and was an all-inclusive type deal (flights, surgery, recovery - food, accommodations, etc.). His rationale was that he could get it done, and recovered prior to the following ski season (his livelihood), as opposed to having to wait several years on a wait list here, and not be able to work (he lives in BC).

Peter

[KGB]

Friend’s mom got it done in Germany about 10-12 years ago, costed him $10K in euros for a month there including surgery and rehab.

[Who Da Fisherman]

Give these people a call
https://gatewaysurgery.ca/surgical-procedures/
WDF

[densa44]

You have had this hip since birth can't you wait a bit and have it done here? If nothing goes wrong you can have it done in your garage, on the other hand the University hospital is the best choice.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by densa44

You have had this hip since birth can't you wait a bit and have it done here? If nothing goes wrong you can have it done in your garage, on the other hand the University hospital is the best choice.

I can picture you saying this ^^^ Made me smile. Guys, you'd all enjoy chewing the fat about politics with Densa in person. He knows a thing or two.

[DiabeticKripple]

for some, getting rid of the pain and getting back to a normal life is worth the cost over waiting for years for our healthcare system to get around to you, regardless of how good our surgeons and hospitals are.

[CanadianPsycho]

We have some top knotch surgeons here. However, i would recommend if you have the means go south of the border. The system up here prioritizes elderly and trauma patients, even adults who could see a huge improvement in quality of life get bumped for years until it causes other issues. Its a mess and has its priorities mixed sadly

[SLH]

Originally Posted by densa44

You have had this hip since birth can't you wait a bit and have it done here? If nothing goes wrong you can have it done in your garage, on the other hand the University hospital is the best choice.

14 months wait for a consultation with a surgeon in Leth. Then with any luck they'll squeeze you in 12-16 months after that. The speed that these things degenerate at means multiple times the pain going forward. Private hospital in Toronto is booking this July right now. 30 days. $28000.

Choices, choices.

[hayseed]

Folks have to remember that the system is back logged due to this so called pandemic.

Which was already back logged from being previously back logged from being back logged.

If I had not got in for mine last October, I was indeed going somewhere !!

[huntinstuff]

It just depends on the patient

Do you wanna wait and get it for "free", or pay and play sooner?

Simple.

You can either take charge of your health care, or leave it to someone else

Yeah, it costs money..what doesn't?????

If you can afford to pay, play!

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

It just depends on the patient

Do you wanna wait and get it for "free", or pay and play sooner?

Simple.

You can either take charge of your health care, or leave it to someone else

Yeah, it costs money..what doesn't?????

If you can afford to pay, play!

In the grand scheme of things, if you can afford it then you removed one person from the list, creating an opening for someone who might not be as well off. A double edged sword I know as people who can pay get treatment and others who can't have to wait. Only the patient can decide what's best for them and like you said, you have to take charge of your own health care.

[Austin]

I had waited the two years here for a hip replacement. If I had to do it again, I’d pay to go south vs waiting. The pain and degeneration was obviously effecting me physically. I hear that the US has techniques that do go in through the back of butt area vs cutting through the muscle on the side. I.e. less invasive and better healing time

[leeelmer]

The post above, is funny as hell.
We sure don't have the best health care system in the world.
It is actually one of the worst run in the world. One of worst cost per person, for one of the lower health care provided.
I have lived and traveled and had medical care in over 30 countries. And i can tell you for sure that Canada sure does not have the best in the world.
Fly to Europe and get some medical care, or a emergency and then come back here and tell us how great ours is.
$.50 of every tax dollar in the provence goes to health care, for that amount of money, you should be able to get a hip surgery within a week.
For the amount of taxes we pay, you could have the best medical insurance in the USA, and I can tell you for a fact that the care with good insurance is out of this world there.
CT, MRI, x-rays, and into see a specialist all in the same day.
Can you get good service here? Sure, can you get a good surgeon? You sure can. But most of the time you have to wait, and wait a long time, and the cost to your body and the extra pain and repairs needed don't make any sense.
If you need a hip replaced, and you are being told to wait over a year, find a new doctor, pay for a private MRI, keep pestering your doctor to get you into a speciallist sooner, or pay and get it done right away down south.

[Twisted Canuck]

I'm in line for hernia surgery, again. Took a month and a half for all the imaging and diagnostic work, and then the surgeon told me I am at least a year out for the surgery. By then, the new hospital here in GP may even be operational. They have only been building it for a decade or so.

[pittman]

Access to joint replacement is a fairly complicated question.

Generally, a new joint is not as good as what you had. There are risks, complications, and they don't last forever.

If you're a financially motivated centre, then you'll plunk in a new hip into any person who agrees to the risks/benefits. Why care about the subsequent need for a revision or risks? The patient is paying.

In a publicly funded system the aim is to provide the new joint to the person when and only when the new joint is a better option than the old one while keeping in mind that replacing it too soon will inevitably result in the patient needing a revision down the road (which is a way bigger deal). The health system does indeed take into account loss of productivity.

Perhaps the system here also wants individuals to attempt some conservative management (weight loss, physio) before embarking on a joint replacement?

I've met people who've had joints replaced too soon and were not satisfied with the new part. I've met other people who have felt like they waited too long. Finally, a friend of mine was getting cued up for a knee replacement, but in the interim he lost a few pounds and no longer wants to have the surgery.

It's not perfect, but generally you want to wear that joint out completely before signing up for a new part and surgery.

[traderal]

Originally Posted by pittman

Access to joint replacement is a fairly complicated question.

Generally, a new joint is not as good as what you had. There are risks, complications, and they don't last forever.

If you're a financially motivated centre, then you'll plunk in a new hip into any person who agrees to the risks/benefits. Why care about the subsequent need for a revision or risks? The patient is paying.

In a publicly funded system the aim is to provide the new joint to the person when and only when the new joint is a better option than the old one while keeping in mind that replacing it too soon will inevitably result in the patient needing a revision down the road (which is a way bigger deal). The health system does indeed take into account loss of productivity.

Perhaps the system here also wants individuals to attempt some conservative management (weight loss, physio) before embarking on a joint replacement?

I've met people who've had joints replaced too soon and were not satisfied with the new part. I've met other people who have felt like they waited too long. Finally, a friend of mine was getting cued up for a knee replacement, but in the interim he lost a few pounds and no longer wants to have the surgery.

It's not perfect, but generally you want to wear that joint out completely before signing up for a new part and surgery.

Why does this remind me of a health care system bloated with managers sitting in their nice taxpayer funded offices, surrounded with walls covered in diplomas and pontificating to people in pain. Well you know it's complicated, so complicated, you poor people in pain, oh wait, say miss admin assistant, it's sunny today can you get me a spot for golf this afternoon, lol.

[SLH]

Originally Posted by pittman

Access to joint replacement is a fairly complicated question.

Generally, a new joint is not as good as what you had. There are risks, complications, and they don't last forever.

If you're a financially motivated centre, then you'll plunk in a new hip into any person who agrees to the risks/benefits. Why care about the subsequent need for a revision or risks? The patient is paying.

In a publicly funded system the aim is to provide the new joint to the person when and only when the new joint is a better option than the old one while keeping in mind that replacing it too soon will inevitably result in the patient needing a revision down the road (which is a way bigger deal). The health system does indeed take into account loss of productivity.

Perhaps the system here also wants individuals to attempt some conservative management (weight loss, physio) before embarking on a joint replacement?

I've met people who've had joints replaced too soon and were not satisfied with the new part. I've met other people who have felt like they waited too long. Finally, a friend of mine was getting cued up for a knee replacement, but in the interim he lost a few pounds and no longer wants to have the surgery.

It's not perfect, but generally you want to wear that joint out completely before signing up for a new part and surgery.

This is ridiculous! I'm not sure if you have even one comment in this post that is accurate.

There is nothing complicated about needing a new joint.

No one would think that an artificial joint is as good as the real one until the real one is shot. You can't possibly be trying to say that someone would willingly get a new joint if they didn't need it, that is just absurd, no one gets a new joint for kicks and giggles thinking they are getting an upgrade.

As far as getting it too soon because you might down the road need another one. I'd say any loss now can not be made up later. Physically across the board my quality of life is not likely going to get better with time (degenerative hip or not) so why the hell would you be denied a new joint now.

I can also assure you that the system does not in any way shape or form take into account loss of productivity. No one will ask you how much time you are going to lose at work or how many lost days of hunting you're going to have because of this. they will look at the xray and make a determination. Period.

As for your idea of "conservative management" what a joke. I specifically asked and they have nothing no work out regime, no dietary suggestions nothing. I'm convinced they don't want the added liability. If you ask they will get you a prescription for physio and you better hope that they have some idea what to do because your doc won't.

As for your friend that doesn't want the surgery now because he lost some weight tell him to get himself back in the que because it is coming regardless how he feels now.

Finally, the idea that a private system only sees you as dollars may or may not be true but I do know that in a private system bad service will get rewarded just like good service will. In the public service you don't rate at all outside of the paper work you generate.

[pittman]

Originally Posted by SLH

This is ridiculous! I'm not sure if you have even one comment in this post that is accurate.

There is nothing complicated about needing a new joint.

No one would think that an artificial joint is as good as the real one until the real one is shot. You can't possibly be trying to say that someone would willingly get a new joint if they didn't need it, that is just absurd, no one gets a new joint for kicks and giggles thinking they are getting an upgrade.

As far as getting it too soon because you might down the road need another one. I'd say any loss now can not be made up later. Physically across the board my quality of life is not likely going to get better with time (degenerative hip or not) so why the hell would you be denied a new joint now.

I can also assure you that the system does not in any way shape or form take into account loss of productivity. No one will ask you how much time you are going to lose at work or how many lost days of hunting you're going to have because of this. they will look at the xray and make a determination. Period.

As for your idea of "conservative management" what a joke. I specifically asked and they have nothing no work out regime, no dietary suggestions nothing. I'm convinced they don't want the added liability. If you ask they will get you a prescription for physio and you better hope that they have some idea what to do because your doc won't.

As for your friend that doesn't want the surgery now because he lost some weight tell him to get himself back in the que because it is coming regardless how he feels now.

Finally, the idea that a private system only sees you as dollars may or may not be true but I do know that in a private system bad service will get rewarded just like good service will. In the public service you don't rate at all outside of the paper work you generate.

Sorry man. You don't know what you're talking about.

[SLH]

Well I would suggest I have a pretty good handle on this but I'm always willing to learn something, what parts do I have wrong.

[brazeau]

Originally Posted by pittman

Sorry man. You don't know what you're talking about.

I don't think SLH missed the mark, you made statements in your discourse that are blatantly false. Take this from someone who is still working and has had two total knee replacements in the last two years. And what you're advocating is wait for that oil change until after the motor blows. You've obviously drank the kool-aid AHS and our politicians have served you

[aulrich]

It took years for my wife to get her hip replaced first you have to convince your GP you are in enough pain (never mind they hand out opioids like candy) then once you finally get a refferal you wait another set of months to get a call to set up the first appointment once that appointment happens then it's only about 3 months.

We expect the other to go to, when that happens there is no way I will put up with our joke of a health care rationing system. Even if it delays retirement there is no way I will let her go through years of pain again.

[cody j]

If you spend years limping around waiting for a hip replacement, what does it do to the good hip after spending all that time compensating for the bad one? I can’t see it being good, but maybe I’m wrong

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by cody j

If you spend years limping around waiting for a hip replacement, what does it do to the good hip after spending all that time compensating for the bad one? I can’t see it being good, but maybe I’m wrong

It’s not good, I know someone who damaged their good hip by doing just that.

[brazeau]

Originally Posted by cody j

If you spend years limping around waiting for a hip replacement, what does it do to the good hip after spending all that time compensating for the bad one? I can’t see it being good, but maybe I’m wrong

You're not wrong. After 6+ years trying to get my knees replaced, I'm now suffering from hip deterioration and a spine disorder which were caused by trying to compensate from bad knees. New knees are now fine, everything else just went wonky. Now I'm likely facing three to five years of pain and loss of quality of life until the hip and spine are dealt with by the best medical care and health system in the world. Don't get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality and level of care we do get, but you only get it after you've been queued up for years waiting for that exemplary care.

[liketoshoot]

Friend of mine had his hip done in Poland for 8k, went really well and was easy for him, debating getting my knee done there. Gave me all the contacts but unsure. Long ways from home

[RandyBoBandy]

Originally Posted by traderal

Why does this remind me of a health care system bloated with managers sitting in their nice taxpayer funded offices, surrounded with walls covered in diplomas and pontificating to people in pain. Well you know it's complicated, so complicated, you poor people in pain, oh wait, say miss admin assistant, it's sunny today can you get me a spot for golf this afternoon, lol.

Absolute GOLD !!!

[Gabby61]

Thanks for all the replies!!

I didnt mean to start a war, just wanted some opinions!! lol

Our health system is a very good one, UNTIL YOU NEED IT!!!

If your from another country or if you don't pay taxes it's a great system and I would be happy with it too!!

It really needs to be PRIVATIZED so we can get caught up and probably do it all for half the cost that our great Unions are doing it for!!!

Just my opinion!!

[timsid1]

"Our health system is a very good one, UNTIL YOU NEED IT!!!"

Sums it up perfectly.