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Old 03-10-2017, 01:31 PM
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Going to fork out $700 for the cabelas B Mag target bolt action rifle. I am curious if any fellow AO members have purchased or used this rifle? Cons pros? I am not reloading. Feedback is appreciated.
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Old 03-10-2017, 02:30 PM
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Have it, love it. Paired it up with the Cabelas Euro scope (made by Meopta) and shoot targets between 100-200m away. This thing is unreal, bough the rimfire spinner targets for fun when they were on sale and hit the 2 inch round plate every time. No regrets what's so ever.
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Old 03-10-2017, 02:44 PM
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Shes absolutely devastating!
That round is nasty! Great pairing with that rifle
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:17 AM
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I didnít know reloading was even an option?
Factory primed cases??
Anyway.....enjoy.Pretty impressive lil cartridge,I was intrigued when I seen a couple rifles in .17WSM on the rack awhile back and did some homework and comparisons on all of the .17s both rim and centerfire.....Iím just trying to convince myself I need one with a legit excuse to justify buying one....ie;legal night hunting for preds with rimfire,Iíd be all over a .17WSM
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:52 AM
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save your money and buy some thing worth owning 17 wsm great little cartridge savage rifle not so much
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:22 AM
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I didnít know reloading was even an option?
Factory primed cases??
Anyway.....enjoy.Pretty impressive lil cartridge,I was intrigued when I seen a couple rifles in .17WSM on the rack awhile back and did some homework and comparisons on all of the .17s both rim and centerfire.....Iím just trying to convince myself I need one with a legit excuse to justify buying one....ie;legal night hunting for preds with rimfire,Iíd be all over a .17WSM
I didnít know you could reload it? Are you sure?

I agree. I have a .204 and I love it but have a few yotes in a rimfire only areas near cities so that was the excuse for the purchase😁🤗. Excited to try it on a yote. So far I polled some squirrels and 8/8 Squirrels hate it.

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save your money and buy some thing worth owning 17 wsm great little cartridge savage rifle not so much
Ya I hear ya. Iím a Tikka guy but they donít make one yet. I stung to buy it because I bug my buddy nonstop about his savage so you can imagine the laugher I heard when he found out I bought a savage. That said I must say I like it. Bolt is little stiff but I think thatís how it is designed. I think it might not be floated properly because as you see many shots are on top of each other and the. 2 are out 1/2-2 moa. That was the best ammo in this rifle so far. I tried all I could get my hands on.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:35 AM
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It's a rimfire so no reloading possible. The cartridge is a little light for consistent coyote kills. One of my hunting partners used one for a season and although a lot of coyotes died he also had a lot just keep on truckin after a boiler room hit. Works great for brain shots on beavers though.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:06 PM
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It might be up to the job of coyote...but I wouldn't bank on it. If it's a rimfire only proposition, it might be worth a try. Personally, I think I'd trust 22mag out to 100 yards at least as much, if not more. Better ammo options, all kinds of guns out there at 1/2 that price, etc. $700 could get you a nicer 22mag than that Savage for sure, something like a CZ452....and have a little $ leftover.

Just this guy's opinion. 17WSM is the reason I bought a 17 Hornet. Not a rimfire of course, but I wanted a bigger 17 than HMR...but didn't want to get into the hot centerfires...and didn't think much of the initial reports on 17WSM ammo OR Savage rifle. 17 Hornet has been an awesome shooter, it's all I used on big groundhogs this summer..and they died immediately on impact. Longest shot was 197 yards.
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It might be up to the job of coyote...but I wouldn't bank on it. If it's a rimfire only proposition, it might be worth a try. Personally, I think I'd trust 22mag out to 100 yards at least as much, if not more. Better ammo options, all kinds of guns out there at 1/2 that price, etc. $700 could get you a nicer 22mag than that Savage for sure, something like a CZ452....and have a little $ leftover.

Just this guy's opinion. 17WSM is the reason I bought a 17 Hornet. Not a rimfire of course, but I wanted a bigger 17 than HMR...but didn't want to get into the hot centerfires...and didn't think much of the initial reports on 17WSM ammo OR Savage rifle. 17 Hornet has been an awesome shooter, it's all I used on big groundhogs this summer..and they died immediately on impact. Longest shot was 197 yards.
I agree the .17 Hornet is AWESOME 200 yards for our little gophers is a DRT, At 250yds. about 90% (we are talking a 1.5? wide target).
I find 25 gr. Hornady bullets to be the most effective. less walking wounded. It works very well on coyote to 275yds. I am sure you could easy push the round to 300-350yds. and drop a yote. Wind drift is minimal, accuracy is great, whats not to like.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:42 AM
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Just this guy's opinion. 17WSM is the reason I bought a 17 Hornet. Not a rimfire of course, but I wanted a bigger 17 than HMR...but didn't want to get into the hot centerfires...and didn't think much of the initial reports on 17WSM ammo OR Savage rifle. 17 Hornet has been an awesome shooter, it's all I used on big groundhogs this summer..and they died immediately on impact. Longest shot was 197 yards.
If you look at Ballistic you might want to take a second look.

The 17wsm ans hornet are very close in performance.

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Old 09-20-2018, 10:36 AM
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If you look at Ballistic you might want to take a second look.

The 17wsm ans hornet are very close in performance.

https://youtu.be/iUbE8USQU2s
I chronographed factory 20 grain 17hornet loads at 3680fps out of my rifle, which my handloads match, that is close to 700fps more than the 17wsm is listed at. So no, the ballistics are not very close.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:59 AM
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I chronographed factory 20 grain 17hornet loads at 3680fps out of my rifle, which my handloads match, that is close to 700fps more than the 17wsm is listed at. So no, the ballistics are not very close.
I was just noticing the comments were 22 hornet and 17 hornet. My bad. Do you reload or is that factory?
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I was just noticing the comments were 22 hornet and 17 hornet. My bad. Do you reload or is that factory?
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I chronographed factory 20 grain 17hornet loads at 3680fps out of my rifle, which my handloads match, that is close to 700fps more than the 17wsm is listed at. So no, the ballistics are not very close.
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Read my post again.
Apologies again. 🤦*♂️ Guess I need read to slower.... PS. If anyone just read my last line ďto readĒ instead of how It is written then you need to read slower too.
😁. Love the great info on this sight. 👍👍👍
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:38 PM
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If you look at Ballistic you might want to take a second look.

The 17wsm ans hornet are very close in performance.

https://youtu.be/iUbE8USQU2s
I have never looked and don't need to, but noticed you may have been comparing the Hornets. No problem.

I do reload the caliber, and it's not tricky at all. However, only got about 1/2 way through working up the loads when groundhogs started popping up in Ontario...so I shot them all with factory, 20gr ammo and they died just fine. I wouldn't have bothered, but I was getting 1/2-3/4 MOA accuracy on average with it..and groundhogs are big rodents...so good enough! I still have my last round of "refinement" loads to test, and with groundhogs well into their slumber now...it's time!
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I might add...that I found 17 Hornet a little hard to get used to. By that I mean, I found it hard to process getting almost .223-like results, but recoil/report closer to 17HMR...taking longer shots and half-expecting crawl-aways..that never actually happened. I've also always wanted an excuse to buy a 527, but had a couple of varmint guns already..just made sense. A new-ish caliber like 17WSM, coupled with Winchester ammo (Winchester 22, 17HMR, 22WMR have all been lackluster, to put it mildly) and a fairly homely-looking Savage to run it through initially? Just wasn't on the radar for me personally, but I can see the merit if you don't hand load, and don't feel like dumping that much into a CZ.
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Ruger offers the the Hawkeye 77/17 in both Hornet and WSM,thatís what I was considering maybe buying?I thought itíd be worth it if I could land some coyote permission around Calgary,but then I moved up north of Whitecourt year n half ago so now I can blast yotes from my front porch with centerfires if I want to so kinda hard to justify the 17 although itís probably uber fur friendly Iím guessing?
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I must say the more I hear about the 17hornet the more I like it. I bought the 17wsm for a few residential areas that donít allow center fire for coyotes. My .204 is my coyote goto. If your gonna go centerfire and fur friendly, why not a .204 over the 17 hornet?
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I must say the more I hear about the 17hornet the more I like it. I bought the 17wsm for a few residential areas that donít allow center fire for coyotes. My .204 is my coyote goto. If your gonna go centerfire and fur friendly, why not a .204 over the 17 hornet?
I own both the .204 is a GREAT round, but it is louder and requires about 20 more grains of powder. the BC on the v=max 25 gr. bullet and the V-max 40 gr. bullet in the two rifles is for all intent and purposes the same .230. both do what they need to do the .204 only does it a bit farther away
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I must say the more I hear about the 17hornet the more I like it. I bought the 17wsm for a few residential areas that donít allow center fire for coyotes. My .204 is my coyote goto. If your gonna go centerfire and fur friendly, why not a .204 over the 17 hornet?
I have a 17 hornet, and a 20 tactical, which basically duplicates 204r ballistics. The 20 is a much better coyote round , but it heats up quickly during high volume shooting, such as when shooting ground squirrels. The 17 hornet burns half the powder, and the barrel requires far less cooling time, so I can shoot with one rifle, rather than having to rotate rifles like a friend of mine, who always has at least two 223rifles with him.
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So much talk about the .17 Hornet I just had to take it out into the gopher patch for one last time... And again it failed to disappoint..Pretty easy hits from 40 - 400yds. 25 gr. v-max H4198 powder.
One word of caution to those thinking about reloading for this cartridge and that is to stay clear of Hornady dies. I have had two sets of them and they are junk, buy RCBS or better and enjoy.
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:35 AM
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I chronographed factory 20 grain 17hornet loads at 3680fps out of my rifle, which my handloads match, that is close to 700fps more than the 17wsm is listed at. So no, the ballistics are not very close.
Yup thatís what I got out of the four that I owned as well. Never mind the .18Ē groups the Cz American was capable of.

I found my fat fingers and those brass to be tough though.
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Ruger offers the the Hawkeye 77/17 in both Hornet and WSM,thatís what I was considering maybe buying?I thought itíd be worth it if I could land some coyote permission around Calgary,but then I moved up north of Whitecourt year n half ago so now I can blast yotes from my front porch with centerfires if I want to so kinda hard to justify the 17 although itís probably uber fur friendly Iím guessing?
https://ruger.com/products/77Series7717/models.html
I owned one. It felt like a club of wood in my hand. Shot well though.

We have used 17 Hornet on coyote and they do just fine if you do your part.
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