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No I will leave it to you and your wisdom, your probably the smartest one on here anyway.
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30 posts of well thought out inspiration and logic. Well done.
Might as well just hand the other side the ammunition they need to enact stiffer regulations.
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02-23-2018, 11:26 AM
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Kids today are no different than any other generation.... even yours.
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Yeah... Riiiiiiiiggghhhttt...  Get your head out of the sand.
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02-23-2018, 11:30 AM
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30 posts of well thought out inspiration and logic. Well done.
Might as well just hand the other side the ammunition they need to enact stiffer regulations.
Quick fyi. It's wisdom. You're ......
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My point exactly, your the smartest one on here. You deserve a spelling award also.
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02-23-2018, 11:42 AM
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What were we discussing in this thread?
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02-23-2018, 11:46 AM
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I'm perfectly happy with you practicing your religion in your home, leave it out of the schools thank you very much.
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Then get the Islamic prayer rooms out of the schools... Leave that crap at home too.
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02-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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Just a guess here, but maybe they might be protesting having to hide under a desk or in a janitor's closet whilst their classmates are being slaughtered.  |
I was listening to a podcast this morning and one of the kids involved in these protests made a very good and frankly scary point that supports your point here.
These 17 year olds were born after Columbine, they starting doing lockdown drills in kindergarten. This has been reality their entire lives, can you imagine how different their perspective is on this? Can you imagine how upset they are when the see how the "adults" have failed to do anything effective? I can remember discussion of the Ecole Polytechnique attack when I was in high school but it was an outlier. I know there were other school shootings before the mid nineties but it was never something that I thought about and I doubt anyone 40 or older did either. Is it that hard to show a little empathy for these people?
I can't understand how somebody could look these kids in the eye and say "sorry I know you're scared but I like use a drum mag so when I shoot gophers so you're going to have to get used to it." The NRA's "yeah sorry about that but we can't let the socialists win" is even more disgusting.
It doesn't even matter what you think about the impact gun control would have on this problem, show a little respect.
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02-23-2018, 02:35 PM
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Not surprising your belief on this as well. Yes get god out because saying the Lord's Prayer in school was a real problem, almost as big as school shootings to some. It would help if they taught a little on god in schools instead of all the garbage they push in schools. I could say the real facts but I'd be banned. Technology has also helped erode society, we are getting so obsessed with phones. Also we think we are getting more smarter when we are getting more stupid. You made my point about sexual orientation kids are being taught about, look down kids.... Your either a boy or a girl, whatever your plumbing says... What a sick world today.
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And which of the 2000 different God's would you like taught in school? You can pick your own and do that in church.
As for sexual orientation I don't think you had a point. But you did prop mine up. Kids today don't notice it, it's not a big deal to have a gay kid in there class.
Education and politics are no place for religion.
Either way. The answer to keeping kids safe won't be found here.
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02-23-2018, 02:36 PM
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I was listening to a podcast this morning and one of the kids involved in these protests made a very good and frankly scary point that supports your point here.
These 17 year olds were born after Columbine, they starting doing lockdown drills in kindergarten. This has been reality their entire lives, can you imagine how different their perspective is on this? Can you imagine how upset they are when the see how the "adults" have failed to do anything effective? I can remember discussion of the Ecole Polytechnique attack when I was in high school but it was an outlier. I know there were other school shootings before the mid nineties but it was never something that I thought about and I doubt anyone 40 or older did either. Is it that hard to show a little empathy for these people?
I can't understand how somebody could look these kids in the eye and say "sorry I know you're scared but I like use a drum mag so when I shoot gophers so you're going to have to get used to it." The NRA's "yeah sorry about that but we can't let the socialists win" is even more disgusting.
It doesn't even matter what you think about the impact gun control would have on this problem, show a little respect.
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This could be the best post in the thread.
Bit of a reality check.
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02-23-2018, 02:42 PM
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And which of the 2000 different God's would you like taught in school? You can pick your own and do that in church.
As for sexual orientation I don't think you had a point. But you did prop mine up. Kids today don't notice it, it's not a big deal to have a gay kid in there class.
Education and politics are no place for religion.
Either way. The answer to keeping kids safe won't be found here.
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Education and politics are no place for god?, we'll enjoy the ses pool, it sounds like you do.
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02-23-2018, 02:49 PM
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If we had computers and smart phones in my day, and if we were told that being spanked was child abuse back then, we would have turned out the same, but the point is that we didn't have those things when I was a kid, so we didn't have those issues.
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Just curious why you own a computer? Why are you part of this forum? Are you even aware of the hypocrisy of making fun of kids for being on Facebook while you're on a forum? If you're so anti technology then why use it?
Life is very different than when you were a kid.
Thanks to these brave students down south hopefully it gets a little better yet.
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02-23-2018, 02:52 PM
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Education and politics are no place for god?, we'll enjoy the ses pool, it sounds like you do.
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Well. Cesspool.
If that's a question the answer is yes.
Either way you want it. This thread isn't the place for it.
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02-23-2018, 03:02 PM
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Well. Cesspool.
If that's a question the answer is yes.
Either way you want it. This thread isn't the place for it.
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Yes??, and that's the problem with society today
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02-23-2018, 03:19 PM
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Yes??, and that's the problem with society today
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The argument could be made that religion has caused a lot of problems in the world over the last couple years.
Still not the thread for this discussion.
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02-23-2018, 03:24 PM
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Yes??, and that's the problem with society today
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Which religion? Or do all 2000 take 20% of a day to rule, each?
And what about the multiple denominations within each religion? Do they each get their few seconds of dominance?
Or (and here's a WILD idea) do we go with a democratic method of cultural and societal change and tolerance?
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02-23-2018, 03:29 PM
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Which religion? Or do all 2000 take 20% of a day to rule, each?
And what about the multiple denominations within each religion? Do they each get their few seconds of dominance?
Or (and here's a WILD idea) do we go with a democratic method of cultural and societal change and tolerance?
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Yes that's what we are doing and what's happening and how is it working for society? It's a total free for all. We are turning into to a modern day Rome.
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02-23-2018, 03:34 PM
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The argument could be made that religion has caused a lot of problems in the world over the last couple years.
Still not the thread for this discussion.
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The underpinnings of all morality is religion, whichever one the individual and society operates on. To not understand this is to not understand the origins of all societies on earth.
Morality plays a part in this discussion because of the immoral act that has transpired. It also plays a part in that one of the poster posed that the lack of religion (or morality) is what is causing these shooting events. Whether that is true or not.
Now to get closer to the original track.....if we have student activism is it based on fear or morality. Are their actions based on the ego and political leanings of their teachers or from true understanding of the issues. Activism based from fear never solves the problem.....it's like cold medicine......you may feel better but its totally ineffective.
Now activism based on knowledge and morality can be effective....provided they focus on solving the problem and not the symptoms. So the poster who brought religion has his view that the constant pressure to remove religion from schools may be one causation in this morass of terror, that has detached students from the foundation of their morality.
Consider that without religion we have no morality, without morality the laws of nature are supreme, and killing is not a crime in nature if it advances your genetics....just like in a wolf pack.
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02-23-2018, 03:45 PM
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Yes that's what we are doing and what's happening and how is it working for society? It's a total free for all. We are turning into to a modern day Rome.
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I'm sure you're trying to make some point or other, but your lack of knowledge of European history is not useful in supporting whatever it is you're trying to say.
So, which religion and why?
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02-23-2018, 03:48 PM
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The underpinnings of all morality is religion, whichever one the individual and society operates on. To not understand this is to not understand the origins of all societies on earth.
Morality plays a part in this discussion because of the immoral act that has transpired. It also plays a part in that one of the poster posed that the lack of religion (or morality) is what is causing these shooting events. Whether that is true or not.
Now to get closer to the original track.....if we have student activism is it based on fear or morality. Are their actions based on the ego and political leanings of their teachers or from true understanding of the issues. Activism based from fear never solves the problem.....it's like cold medicine......you may feel better but its totally ineffective.
Now activism based on knowledge and morality can be effective....provided they focus on solving the problem and not the symptoms. So the poster who brought religion has his view that the constant pressure to remove religion from schools may be one causation in this morass of terror, that has detached students from the foundation of their morality.
Consider that without religion we have no morality, without morality the laws of nature are supreme, and killing is not a crime in nature if it advances your genetics....just like in a wolf pack.
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Your premise is faulty.
We are hairless, weak, clawless, fangless tribal primates who have only manage to succeed through cooperation. Morality springs from the need to cooperate, to ensure the survival of the group.
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02-23-2018, 03:51 PM
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I'm sure you're trying to make some point or other, but your lack of knowledge of European history is not useful in supporting whatever it is you're trying to say.
So, which religion and why?
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Christianity, and not someone's warped version of the bible. Why??, because there is only one, Jesus Christ. If we read and implied the bible in our country and families and government, it would be something.
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Christianity, and not someone's warped version of the bible. Why??, because there is only one, Jesus Christ. If we read and implied the bible in our country and families and government, it would be something.
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I do not know if it is warped or not, but many Christians do not agree with the literalness of the Bible and what the message of Jesus actually was.
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02-23-2018, 05:06 PM
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Christianity, and not someone's warped version of the bible. Why??, because there is only one, Jesus Christ. If we read and implied the bible in our country and families and government, it would be something.
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Catholic interpretation? JW? Mormon? Protestant?(and so on, for about 3500 more examples)
ISIS wants Sharia law everywhere. Are you advocating for a Canadian Christian version of ISIS?
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