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Old 12-10-2016, 11:52 AM
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Getting ready for my Jan elk draw. Knowing how lucky I've been in the past with farmers around and tractors to load up, I figured I'd throw something together so I could load up an downed elk by myself. Might be putting the cart before the horse but at least I'll be prepared if I do fill my draw this season!






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Old 12-10-2016, 11:57 AM
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You have to drill holes in the box to attach it??
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:00 PM
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Looks like it is attached to the fifth wheel brackets - neat idea!
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You have to drill holes in the box to attach it??


No, fits into my fifth wheel rails. Just set it in and put the pins in.


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Old 12-10-2016, 12:02 PM
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No, fits into my fifth wheel rails. Just set it in and put the pins in.


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I gotta get the kid to make up one of those - thanks for the idea !
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:05 PM
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No, fits into my fifth wheel rails. Just set it in and put the pins in.


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Pretty slick!!
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:31 PM
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Nice unit, but can I add something. A short time ago, Princess Auto had a game hoist listed for about $250. It pinned into the 2" receiver hitch on the back, offset to one side and had support legs. There was an arm that came up and stuck out and had a winch on it. Pair that up with your unit, might be the answer.
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:43 PM
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Nice unit, but can I add something. A short time ago, Princess Auto had a game hoist listed for about $250. It pinned into the 2" receiver hitch on the back, offset to one side and had support legs. There was an arm that came up and stuck out and had a winch on it. Pair that up with your unit, might be the answer.


A friend of mine had purchased one of those, good idea and worked great for deer but it was a little flimsy for an elk. I'm not planning on lifting the animal with this, just setting my quad ramps on the tailgate and dragging it into the box.


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Old 12-10-2016, 12:48 PM
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A friend of mine had purchased one of those, good idea and worked great for deer but it was a little flimsy for an elk. I'm not planning on lifting the animal with this, just setting my quad ramps on the tailgate and dragging it into the box.


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Thanks for the heads up. I thought a hoist like that would help get the last part of the animal into the truck box. Good luck.
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:05 PM
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Nice setup. Easier to make and mount, put the winch on a plate with a pin and pin it to your fifth wheel hitch. That way you don't have to remove the hitch to use it and it will swivel as required so you don't get side loading, unless you are already taking the hitch out when hunting.
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Nice setup. Easier to make and mount, put the winch on a plate with a pin and pin it to your fifth wheel hitch. That way you don't have to remove the hitch to use it and it will swivel as required so you don't get side loading, unless you are already taking the hitch out when hunting.
The nice thing about the bracket is that it us angled back and takes up less room than the hitch does
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:14 PM
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The nice thing about the bracket is that it us angled back and takes up less room than the hitch does

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Old 12-10-2016, 01:32 PM
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That is a dandy idea---I'm going out to put the heat on in the shop right now.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:30 PM
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Old 12-10-2016, 06:23 PM
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What does it attach to at the front of the box under the window? Bel
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:14 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought a hoist like that would help get the last part of the animal into the truck box. Good luck.
I made one but used heavier steel and have legs under the main beam, 3000 warn on it, it lifts 14 feet and will lift an elk and spin it into the truck
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Old 12-10-2016, 07:26 PM
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great idea! I'm gonna have to build something now!
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:30 AM
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Great idea!
I string cable between the two front postholes of my truck box (using hooks) and then attach a come along. Slower by gives me a chance to maneuver the animal as I ratchet it in.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:55 AM
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I mounted my winch to the side rails with 3" angle across the box in front of my tool box, and tied it back to the headache rack with a flatbar. {My rails and headache rack are 2x2x3/16 and well bolted down }I have it on a 2" receiver setup so I can pull it off and keep it out of the weather in the tool box out of sight . I also picked up a wireless remote for it so I can guide the critter up the ramp and run the winch at the same time without messing with a remote on a cable.
That winch would need a solenoid to go with the wireless remote.

I run off the main truck battery's with quick connects on booster cable wire made from welding cable . They are the same cables I use on the main 12000# winch that is on a receiver mount too ,so it can go on the front or rear of the truck. We can't have to many options when we leave the pavement.

Have a rope handy to tie off the front when you run out of space on big animals like Elk ,and need to move the winch line to the hind quarters to get it all the way in the box without it sliding back out .

I used a 2000# for years and it had lots of power for the job until it burned out, now I have a 3500# for critters that I got at Costco on clearance for $99.00.

You have the winch mounted backwards though. Turn it around so it spools onto the bottom of the drum, not the top. The way it is now has to much pressure on the top roller of the fairlead and this also cuts back on the power from the extra friction and running backwards. That's a reat way that you made your mount.

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Old 12-11-2016, 08:38 AM
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Good catch on the backwards winch...I missed that
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:51 AM
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petew you got a pic?
it sounds exactly what i eventually did as well. the quick connects are the real deal. reciever mount 10,000lb warn with 125ft sythetic rope, front and rear elctrical connect points. the headache rack has a receiver hitch in it for storage and snatch block point or winch point, 30 ft of extension welding cables this eliminates the need for a standalone battery taking up floor space which is already at a premium.
do you have yours on a solenoid or are they 12v 24/7.
we might have to start a new thread!!
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A friend of mine had purchased one of those, good idea and worked great for deer but it was a little flimsy for an elk. I'm not planning on lifting the animal with this, just setting my quad ramps on the tailgate and dragging it into the box.
not to pizz on the picnic but, i travelled down this same road as yours and was underwhelmed with my attempt. some problems included the quad ramps provided a little to much resistance for the animal to just slide in and would constantly become dislodged. If the truck has to realign to keep the animal inline with the ramp so the critter slides up squarely the quad ramps will fall off unless securely attached. it worked it just needed revisions.

putting a entire one peice of elk in there looks to be a challenge in itself.
. the carcass needs to sit were the mechanism is adhered. pl
not a whole lot of room left in the box with both that tool box and the hoist assembly in there.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:02 AM
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I mounted my winch to the side rails with 3" angle across the box in front of my tool box, and tied it back to the headache rack with a flatbar. {My rails and headache rack are 2x2x3/16 and well bolted down }I have it on a 2" receiver setup so I can pull it off and keep it out of the weather in the tool box out of sight . I also picked up a wireless remote for it so I can guide the critter up the ramp and run the winch at the same time without messing with a remote on a cable.

That winch would need a solenoid to go with the wireless remote.



I run off the main truck battery's with quick connects on booster cable wire made from welding cable . They are the same cables I use on the main 12000# winch that is on a receiver mount too ,so it can go on the front or rear of the truck. We can't have to many options when we leave the pavement.



Have a rope handy to tie off the front when you run out of space on big animals like Elk ,and need to move the winch line to the hind quarters to get it all the way in the box without it sliding back out .



I used a 2000# for years and it had lots of power for the job until it burned out, now I have a 3500# for critters that I got at Costco on clearance for $99.00.



You have the winch mounted backwards though. Turn it around so it spools onto the bottom of the drum, not the top. The way it is now has to much pressure on the top roller of the fairlead and this also cuts back on the power from the extra friction and running backwards. That's a reat way that you made your mount.


Good catch on that. I'll flip er around.


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Old 12-11-2016, 09:39 AM
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Tremendous! Good luck on your elk. I'd love to see pics in action, but let's face it, we know it's gonna work smoother than Golden.
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petew you got a pic?
it sounds exactly what i eventually did as well. the quick connects are the real deal. reciever mount 10,000lb warn with 125ft sythetic rope, front and rear elctrical connect points. the headache rack has a receiver hitch in it for storage and snatch block point or winch point, 30 ft of extension welding cables this eliminates the need for a standalone battery taking up floor space which is already at a premium.
do you have yours on a solenoid or are they 12v 24/7.
we might have to start a new thread!!

not to pizz on the picnic but, i travelled down this same road as yours and was underwhelmed with my attempt. some problems included the quad ramps provided a little to much resistance for the animal to just slide in and would constantly become dislodged. If the truck has to realign to keep the animal inline with the ramp so the critter slides up squarely the quad ramps will fall off unless securely attached. it worked it just needed revisions.

putting a entire one peice of elk in there looks to be a challenge in itself.
. the carcass needs to sit were the mechanism is adhered. pl
not a whole lot of room left in the box with both that tool box and the hoist assembly in there.

I will take a picture later on.
I use a 6 foot section of aluminum ladder to load with . Lean it on the gate and set the head on the ladder . I let the ladder slide in with the animal if it wants to. I don't lash the animal down, and I let gravity and friction decide if the critter comes with the ladder or slides up it. There is 1/4" plywood screwed to the rungs so the critter can slide if it wants to.
I have used a half sheet of 3/4 plywood also as a ramp and let it come with the critter or not . Either way the critter doesn't get hooked on the gate.

To get a whole elk in takes two pulls on the winch. Pull the head in as far as it will go ,tie it off to keep it there and then lasso the hind legs and pull them in . You want to rig the pick as short as possible so you can winch right up to the fairlead and a half hitch on the nose makes the head go in straight .
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:55 PM
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Cool project and good craftsmanship.

Have to ask though what is with people's fascination with taking a carcass home whole?

Quarter it cut out the good stuff, cut off trim and done. Take a deer whole but anything bigger don't get it.
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:14 PM
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That should do the job nicely. I don't have a fifth wheel, so mine is mounted to a 2" square tube with drops that go in the front rail holes. I made mine adjustable for width so it could be used to drop on different trucks, but I quickly found out that the stake holes are not a standard size and the stubs I welded up to fit in my '04 Dodge didn't fit in my Ford nor a buddys Chevy.
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Old 12-11-2016, 04:38 PM
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Exactly quarter them where they are if you can get your truck to them to load them then the work done when you get home and they're not frozen rock hard

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Old 12-11-2016, 06:09 PM
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Very nice. My brother did something similar, and man does it come in handy. Elk or Moose can really be tough to load onto a truck. Hope you get a chance to use it. Look forward to seeing pics of it in action.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:54 PM
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Exactly quarter them where they are if you can get your truck to them to load them then the work done when you get home and they're not frozen rock hard

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Let me think on this a minute - quarter it on the ground in the field in sub freezing temperatures or winch it in the truck and quarter it in the shop at home when it is hanging.
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