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How the rest of the world views Trump
How do allies, or perhaps better stated, former allies, view Trump?
In a view words, as an uneducated child who has no idea of world politics beyond his own version of things. Just look back on how Merkel had to teach him about what the Eurozone was all about, and Xi Jinping about the realities in Asia.
Now, this flaming editorial from Der Speigel, in english. Who/what is Der Speigel? Only the most read and respected news magazine in Germany itself, and in Europe generally. Trump has become a laughing stock of the world, a dangerous laughing stock, but a laughing stock nevertheless.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1148471.html
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There's no denying that Trump is a clown, but I'm not sure Merkel has much to teach anyone, other than how to destroy your own country from the inside.
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There's no denying that Trump is a clown, but I'm not sure Merkel has much to teach anyone, other than how to destroy your own country from the inside.
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She taught him what the EU is and how it works, since he has no political background, experience or understanding of how political systems work, as proven by his many ridiculous and downright dumb statements before the election and during his presidency.
Besides that she could also teach him how a country half the size of Alberta with no real natural resources passed the USA as export leader 20 years ago (which the USA didn't manage to change again in all that time) or how Germany managed to grow exports by nearly 20% in her last two terms since the recession in 2009, with an unemployment rate at a record low of 3.8%.
Funny how people condemn her only concentrating on the immigration issue while obviously having no clue about what they are talking about.
Especially when you have a look at how the federal and provincial government that are currently running this country and province are so incredibly successful uniting this country or getting anything done
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Originally Posted by alta270
How do allies, or perhaps better stated, former allies, view Trump?
In a view words, as an uneducated child who has no idea of world politics beyond his own version of things. Just look back on how Merkel had to teach him about what the Eurozone was all about, and Xi Jinping about the realities in Asia.
Now, this flaming editorial from Der Speigel, in english. Who/what is Der Speigel? Only the most read and respected news magazine in Germany itself, and in Europe generally. Trump has become a laughing stock of the world, a dangerous laughing stock, but a laughing stock nevertheless.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1148471.html
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Let me get this straight. A German editor is calling on Americans and the international community (!!) to usurp the presidency?! Now I've heard it all.
I've never heard anything quite so simple minded in the media in my life. Maybe he should head over to Weekly World News.
How does the rest of the world view the "little potato"?
Oh, never mind...
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It's so much more meaningful in the original German.
I wouldn't expect a positive review of Trump from a German editorial.
The reality is, the average German really has no love lost for the "Ammis" (Americans). Has been that way for many years.
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Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo
It's so much more meaningful in the original German.
I wouldn't expect a positive review of Trump from a German editorial.
The reality is, the average German really has no love lost for the "Ammis" (Americans). Has been that way for many years.
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Nor do the French, the Irish and many Brits from the ones I have talked to. However, they have at least respected the office of the President, no matter who sat in it.... until now.
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Straight From The Commander In Chief
Here is the real news.
Want to know what President Trump is doing without all of the fake news BS? Just watch this once a week and you will know!
Go Trump Go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paZk7vf39ZQ
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It makes logical sense that people outside the US would view Trump the same way as he is viewed within the US.
He's going to have his dedicated followers who will proclaim him the saviour, the guy that can't be corrupted and the true hero to save american jobs and the economy and stand up for the little man. He's also viewed by this group to be the catalyst of reform for the government, which, in the case of the US, is a real concern with both parties and ideologies.
Others who see him as a completely arrogant, ignorant, narcissistic moron with zero impulse control who is a compulsive liar who isn't even smart enough to keep his own lies straight.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
The Germans, and most progressive European Nations are probably not used to such an extremely polarising figure coming out of the US.
He had the most golden opportunity ever given to any outsider (non politician) to actually change things ..... but my personal opinion is ...... he may have just closed that door for another 50 years.
Trust me when I tell you, I wish I was wrong. I had a feeling Trump would turn out precisely as he has, and was concerned about his candidacy (and subsequent election to office).
After all, Hillary was a terrible choice (for many of the same reasons, albeit less obvious to the average person maybe).
The guy isn't what we (or America more importantly) needs.
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Leave it to the Finns . . .
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As much as I would like to see Trump gone, I actually think Pence may be just as bad in another way. What happens if both get tossed? Ryan or some other?
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As much as I would like to see Trump gone, I actually think Pence may be just as bad in another way. What happens if both get tossed? Ryan or some other?
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I'd be worried if Kim Jong-un decided to start a nuclear war on a Sunday.
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As much as I would like to see Trump gone, I actually think Pence may be just as bad in another way. What happens if both get tossed? Ryan or some other?
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The only advantage that Pence would provide is competence and the lack of chaos. His policies? Way to whack-a-do for me. But at least discussion would be on policy, not the chaos that Trump provides.
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Really, it doesn't matter what the media says about Trump. All one needs to do is listen to him, read his Tweets, and consider the spew that comes out of his mouth. I'd like to think that the average person with basic cognitive abilities and the power of reason, could then apply some critical thinking, and come to their own conclusions on the man. He is completely unfit to be President of the United States. Period. Doll it up any way you want, but the man is a psychiatrist's wet dream, the book deals and billable hours alone could buy you a nice island in the Caribbean. The idea of him having the 'football' to launch nuclear warheads is certainly entertaining. I have a running bet on whether he is impeached first, or starts a nuclear war first. He is a complete ego driven narcissist, incapable of empathy or even the basic concept of self doubt. To be his 'adviser' is to be a Yes Man, or to be fired. He doesn't want to receive wise council on anything, he merely wants to be affirmed on his decisions, regardless of how warped or insane they may be.
Ok, done with my critique on Trump, hopefully we can discuss this at great length without worrying about radioactive fallout. Cheers.
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You sure have opinions on trump. How is Donald affecting your life?
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Originally Posted by alta270
How do allies, or perhaps better stated, former allies, view Trump?
In a view words, as an uneducated child who has no idea of world politics beyond his own version of things. Just look back on how Merkel had to teach him about what the Eurozone was all about, and Xi Jinping about the realities in Asia.
Now, this flaming editorial from Der Speigel, in english. Who/what is Der Speigel? Only the most read and respected news magazine in Germany itself, and in Europe generally. Trump has become a laughing stock of the world, a dangerous laughing stock, but a laughing stock nevertheless.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1148471.html
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You sure have opinions on trump. How is Donald affecting your life?
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Well I read "The Art of The Deal" and have applied some of the principles in my business life, which has allowed me to prosper as a business owner.
In terms of how he effects my life in general, I smile every time I see him speak, so he makes me happy. Sure is nice to see a President with a brain finally, we have not seen that since Ronald Reagan IMO.
So I would say he has a positive influence on me.
PS: Like your Thumbnail
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Well I read "The Art of The Deal" and have applied some of the principles in my business life, which has allowed me to prosper as a business owner.
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Donald Trump prefers loyalty over integrity. That's in his book.
In his public life since he become the POTUS it seems that loyalty only happens when convenient.
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You sure have opinions on trump. How is Donald affecting your life?
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I, like most people in the world, are concerned about the unstable, chaotic, narcissistic individual who has his fingers on the nuclear button. I, as a Canadian, am concerned about how his insular view on the USA will affect our economy, and especially our exports, other than perhaps oil and gas.
If those basic issues do not concern you, I wonder why?
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I, as a Canadian, am concerned about how his insular view on the USA will affect our economy, and especially our exports, other than perhaps oil and gas.
If those basic issues do not concern you, I wonder why?
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Those basic issues do not concern me because I have built a company that is Idiotic Politician (Justin Trudeau) and Recession Proof.
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Those basic issues do not concern me because I have built a company that is Idiotic Politician (Justin Trudeau) and Recession Proof.
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Are you being honest when you edited half the quote out? Or are you trying to manipulate? It was not accidental, was it?
So, let's repeat the first part you seemed not to want to address.
"I, like most people in the world, are concerned about the unstable, chaotic, narcissistic individual who has his fingers on the nuclear button. "
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Originally Posted by alta270
Are you being honest when you edited half the quote out? Or are you trying to manipulate? It was not accidental, was it?
So, let's repeat the first part you seemed not to want to address.
"I, like most people in the world, are concerned about the unstable, chaotic, narcissistic individual who has his fingers on the nuclear button. "
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Most people in the world ?
Did you do a poll , if so post it otherwise I would guess you imagination is getting the best of you.
Thanks to Billy Clinton we now have a little fat guy in NK threatening everyone with his nuclear wepeons
Thanks to Obama we have Iran on the verge of becoming a nuclear state and a huge threat in the Middle East.
Selective outrage much ?
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Originally Posted by alta270
Are you being honest when you edited half the quote out? Or are you trying to manipulate? It was not accidental, was it?
So, let's repeat the first part you seemed not to want to address.
"I, like most people in the world, are concerned about the unstable, chaotic, narcissistic individual who has his fingers on the nuclear button. "
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I didn't include the above because I think it's nonsensical, paranoid and ridiculous.
Also the deal he put together today totals 380 Billion Dollars and represents Hundreds of Thousands of JOBS.
Man are the Americans ever lucky to have Trump!
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I have built a company that is Idiotic Politician (Justin Trudeau) and Recession Proof.
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but do you have a Tower, or Castle, or a golf course with your name on it?
mini-golf?
I think I will call you mini Trump or small orange
If you really don't like the leadership in Canada or Alberta, leave the empire you built, refuse to disclose your taxes and offer to drain the Canadian swamp and make Canada great again.
Or just keep what your doing as head suck to the top knob in the US.
Just quit crying because not everyone likes the taste of orange.
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but do you have a Tower, or Castle, or a golf course with your name on it?
mini-golf?
I think I will call you mini Trump or small orange
If you really don't like the leadership in Canada or Alberta, leave the empire you built, refuse to disclose your taxes and offer to drain the Canadian swamp and make Canada great again.
Or just keep what your doing as head suck to the top knob in the US.
Just quit crying because not everyone likes the taste of orange.
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I didn't vote for the current leadership in either Alberta or Canada, sort of stuck with it for now.
By looking at the posts on the anti-Trump threads here, it seems to me that as many people like Trump as there are Trump haters.
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Originally Posted by alta270
How do allies, or perhaps better stated, former allies, view Trump?
In a view words, as an uneducated child who has no idea of world politics beyond his own version of things. Just look back on how Merkel had to teach him about what the Eurozone was all about, and Xi Jinping about the realities in Asia.
Now, this flaming editorial from Der Speigel, in english. Who/what is Der Speigel? Only the most read and respected news magazine in Germany itself, and in Europe generally. Trump has become a laughing stock of the world, a dangerous laughing stock, but a laughing stock nevertheless.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1148471.html
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and what about our own fearless leader?????
my gawd the rest of the world must be just peeeing themselves laughing at our own moron
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and what about our own fearless leader?????
my gawd the rest of the world must be just peeeing themselves laughing at our own moron
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I would think what everyone thinks of our leader is important but should be the subject of its own thread.
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and what about our own fearless leader?????
my gawd the rest of the world must be just peeeing themselves laughing at our own moron
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Unfortunately, most of the world likes PM Selfie.
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Unfortunately, most of the world likes PM Selfie.
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Did you do a poll on that also.
Or do you just like making these things up and then state them as a fact?
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I'm in Germany currently, and have talked to more than a few people regarding Trump. Everyone says the same sort of thing: he's insane, but very entertaining and funny. Total laughingstock. Meanwhile, they all coo over Trudeau, and then are shocked when I tell them I personally don't care for him at all. They love him over here, which I suppose is a good thing. Having a friendly and likable face representing Canada on the world stage at least helps reinforce the stereotype that Canada is the friendlier, "cooler", hockey-playing version of America. That said, anyone who doesn't constantly spout scandalous claims and rhetoric would make Canada look good relative to the US.
One of the most surprising opinions I hear regarding Merkel is that lots think she is too far right wing. That one shocks me quite a bit.
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