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Old 04-20-2017, 12:01 PM
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Hey look Trump is taking aim at canada now, this includes energy and lumber
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:04 PM
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?
Yeah, what is he referring to?
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:09 PM
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I think in the dairy front Canada does what Trump wants to do with all his industries. Home country first and put restrictions on imports. Trump doesn't want free trade. Not sure what he is objecting to.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:12 PM
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I think in the dairy front Canada does what Trump wants to do with all his industries. Home country first and put restrictions on imports. Trump doesn't want free trade. Not sure what he is objecting to.
He's objecting to the money not flowing his way.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:24 PM
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?

Sounds like some political pitch about his actions that has nothing to do with anything that is happening,

Kinda like how he was hammering on united tech for subing air conditioning/furnaces to mexico while the auto part manufacturer down the road went unscathed as they subbed out many more jobs to mexico or china than united tech planned to sub out.

A politcal stance based on a very small group of people while not mentioning the bigger picture
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:31 PM
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Its all about the ingredients used to make cheese


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...of-dairy-farms

I can't copy off this link????
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:48 PM
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So US farmers will go out of business if they can't export to Canada??? What about their own market?

Trump is demanding only US steel is used in his country, but is infuriated that Canada would institute a policy with regard to milk that might handicap US exports to us. You really can't deal with this guy. He's the bully who steals your lunch, then complains that the sandwich has miracle whip on it instead of mustard.
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Old 04-20-2017, 12:54 PM
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It is time for Canada to stand up for itself.
Shut the border down to any exports going to the US for 6 months to a year.
With that time frame they will find out how much they depend on Canadian imports. They will then settle a deal that is good for both sides of the border.

For those States who already know the huge benifits of having a open trade program with Canadian companies. They will have to put more pressure on their own Government to fix the situation.
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It is time for Canada to stand up for itself.
Shut the border down to any exports going to the US for 6 months to a year.
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No need to gouge ourselves in the eyes to make a point that will be largely lost on them. I actually think Trudeau has been wise on this. Stay calm, cooperate, and start searching out and approving trade deals with other countries and building other pipelines to tide water not through the states (Needs to get going on that). We don't need to cut or harm our trade with the US. We need to expand it with other countries. We should be cozying up to China. They are the next big dog. The US is in decline comparatively.

If you want to go wild and make a point and not hurt ourselves economically, a point the US would notice... invite the Chinese navy for a "friendship visit" to Vancouver. LOL
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So US farmers will go out of business if they can't export to Canada??? What about their own market?

Trump is demanding only US steel is used in his country, but is infuriated that Canada would institute a policy with regard to milk that might handicap US exports to us. You really can't deal with this guy. He's the bully who steals your lunch, then complains that the sandwich has miracle whip on it instead of mustard.
Canada lowered its price to be competitive. This newish product was not previously listed and the Americans ran it threw at bargain basement prices. Canada adjusts their price and Whaaa
Read the article today and Canada syas a WTO case would not hold up. Its pricing adjustment is within the NAFTA regulations
Dont know about Lumber or Steel.

When Trump refused to sign on to the TPP deal, he also cut out some American companys that will suffer and must now try to negotiate their own agreement

He can try to make America Great Again but I say keep Canada Great and stand up to the bully. Its not about rolling over but stand up. I dont mean to cut our nose off to spite the face but not to roll over as I suspect Trudeau may do to keep the peace.

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Old 04-20-2017, 01:23 PM
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Talking Trump's latest T Shirt of the Month

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It's Canada's turn this month. Where will he go next?!
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:39 PM
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Hahaha that's about it, just blame Canada. In reading the quotes from him, he doesn't actually say anything of substance, it's just a bunch of gibberish and garbled up sentence fragments that happen to contain the words "Canada" "Dairy" and "Disgrace."

I think it is just an attempt to re-address the blame for terrible governing and management WITHIN the US and pass the buck off to someone else. I totally agree with the folks saying it is time for Canada to diversify its portfolio. The US is a sinking ship...
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So US farmers will go out of business if they can't export to Canada??? What about their own market?

Trump is demanding only US steel is used in his country, but is infuriated that Canada would institute a policy with regard to milk that might handicap US exports to us. You really can't deal with this guy. He's the bully who steals your lunch, then complains that the sandwich has miracle whip on it instead of mustard.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:44 PM
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He can try to make America Great Again but I say keep Canada Great and stand up to the bully. Its not about rolling over but stand up. I dont mean to cut our nose off to spite the face but not to roll over as I suspect Trudeau may do to keep the peace.

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BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL! And make Wisconsin dairy producers pay for it. LOL

It's a brilliant strategy though. "We had better be careful with the US. That guy's nuts".
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:11 PM
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Dairy is one thing. I think i would worry more about energy and forestry, the united states would gain alot by making american oil/gas and forest products more attractive by means of a tariff or tax on canadian products. Discourage business investment in canada while encouraging developement in us oil/gas and forestry.
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Old 04-20-2017, 02:52 PM
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Trump is a joke. The Americans have lost battle after battle at the WTO on the lumber issue. Still they ignore the rules. There is no point presenting facts on trade as he has a very problematic relationship with the truth. Fact is Canada imports five times the dairy from the US that they import from us.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:17 PM
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?
Yeah, we're very small potatoes compared to them. Might be they can't make it work and it's got to be our fault, supply management and all.

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"It's a terrible thing that happened to the farmers of Wisconsin".
"It's a disgrace".
"Ok"

Does this guy really have an IQ of 160?

If that's true - it's a disgrace to the shrink who administered the test.
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"It's a terrible thing that happened to the farmers of Wisconsin".
"It's a disgrace".
"Ok"

Does this guy really have an IQ of 160?

If that's true - it's a disgrace to the shrink who administered the test.
I decided long ago, from personal experience with rich folks, IQ is a definite handicap, they just do what goes against all common sense or reason and it works in their favor.

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I decided long ago, from personal experience with rich folks, IQ is a definite handicap, they just do what goes against all common sense or reason and it works in their favor.

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I don't know Trump's IQ (and don't care), but it's painfully obvious he has the vocabulary of a 5th grade kid in remedial education ... and he reinforces that notion everytime he opens his mouth. There may be a 'small' portion of his politics that I like, but I can't stand listening to him anymore.

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Don't worry it will all be tied up in the courts well past Trumps assassination.
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Does this guy really have an IQ of 160?
What do you think? The guy doesn't even know which way is up, down, left,right, east, west, north, south or more importantly where North Korea is.


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Old 04-20-2017, 07:32 PM
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This is exactly why so many of us were anti Trump. He couldn't care less about anything but his bank account and popularity on twitter.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:57 PM
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In reading the quotes from him, he doesn't actually say anything of substance, it's just a bunch of gibberish and garbled up sentence fragments ..

So pretty much the norm from him then. That's all he's been spewing since he announced he was running for POTUS.
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This is exactly why so many of us were anti Trump. He couldn't care less about anything but his bank account and popularity on twitter.
I don't think it was as much a pro trump thing as an anti hillary thing.

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Jeepers that old bag O'bones has Alzheimer's and Tourette's what threat is he other than a rambling ol fool...wait...he has a new idea...next...
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The origional negotiation of NAFTA in 1980,s with US was " A rabbit and horse eating at the same bale of hay" this time around it will be even worse for Canada with a guy like Trump.
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I don't think it was as much a pro trump thing as an anti hillary thing.

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In your case maybe. I get being anti Hillary. Take the lesser of 2 evils and that.

Lots around here who thought and still do think he's the next coming of Christ
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Why in Canada can a dairy farmer NOT sell ALL the milk his herd produces every day ? Why do Canadian dairy farmers dump thousands if dollars of fresh milk down the sewer daily ?

If you can answere this question ? Then you can also understand why there is an issue with the USA dairy producers
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