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Old 06-04-2008, 04:59 PM
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Default Not sure what type of Marlin to Buy?

Im going Friday to purchase a big bore Rifle,im either getting a 45-70 or a 450.Marlin,not sure yet which one and im also not sure on the original look or the new stainless steel look? Wondering if anybody has any input on this topic?Would love some advice,i am not going to be reloading that i know of but that could change in the future,Im leaning towards the .450 Marlin Guide Gun in Stainless sSteel,Thanks
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:21 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the stainless guide gun does not come in .450. I just bought the stainless in 45/70. With not reloading the 45/70 ammo should be a little easier to find than .450. It is a fun little gun.
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:49 PM
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the one i was looking at is the new xlr 450 and the barrell might not be 18.5 but it isnt much longer,i have a buddy buyin the 45-70 on friday with me thats why am debating on which rifle!
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:37 PM
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The 45-70 has been around for a LONG time, you'll always be able the get shells for it. The 450 Marlin is a newcomer, and yet to establish itself. If shells are ever discontinued, the brass is oddball too. It's a belted case, but not the typical belted brass, the belt is thicker on the 450 Marlin, supposedly to prevent people from putting 458 Win mag ammo in their Marlins. The 45-70 factory loadings are tame, but reloading perks it up nicely. Maybe you and your friend could go together on a reloading setup?? Handloading will change the way you shoot for the better. Good luck, Eric
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:41 PM
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like eric2381 says the factory 45-70 loads are tame. if you aren't going to reload I would go with the 450 marlin for a liitle extra punch but the 45-70 will outperform the 450 with hopped up handloads. IMO. Whitey
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:05 AM
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There's a big difference between any guide gun version and the XLR - almost 6" of barrel. My XLR handles real stiff handloads in the .45-70 quite well but the same load in a GGun is something else (and considerably more smack than factory .450 Marlin). The guide gun's recoil can be pretty intimidating with a full load. Which rifle would depend on the use - for a hunting rifle I like the 24" barrel but if it were for close up defense the G is shorter to pack, faster to get into action and all around lighter. A 22" bbl would be a good compromise, not too long overall but enough barrel to help with heavy loads. The other strike against the .450, besides there being only one factory brand of ammo, is brass for handloaders - same thing. One manufacturer only. The recent resurgence of the .45-70 has a lot to do with the wide assortment of load building stuff being made for it - we finally found a use for all that old Red Dot shotgun powder with our .45-70's!
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