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Nope, not agreeing with your one paint brush but your entitled to your opinion.
I look at any organization like a box of crayons
I like the ones with the sharpener on the side and the fact some get chewed on too
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The governor in council directs the RCMP. The Governor General appoints the governor in council. The PM appoints the GG. Our PMO is exuding scandal and corruption. This corruption will flow down to the appointed GG to the appointed GIC and to the RCMP.
The RCMP have no accountability with this set up.
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10-27-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman
The governor in council directs the RCMP. The Governor General appoints the governor in council. The PM appoints the GG. Our PMO is exuding scandal and corruption. This corruption will flow down to the appointed GG to the appointed GIC and to the RCMP.
The RCMP have no accountability with this set up.
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Exactly, it amounts to the liberals controlling the RCMP commissioner, and therefore controlling the entire RCMP organization.
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10-27-2022, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
Excerpt from a National Post newsletter.
If for nothing more than the morale of the force, the commissioner should get lost fast.
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And I am sure she will and with a pretty good pension too.
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10-27-2022, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Yet on another thread, you posted to hang women because they supposedly left Canada and joined ISIS? Why paint all supposed ISIS members with the same brush? Shouldn't they also be judged as individuals, and not as an organization?
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Are you serious?...Come on...you can't be....
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10-27-2022, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I agree, this is the more accurate assessment. The fact that Lucki hasn't been thrown under the bus yet by the PM and his Ministry of Truth is the only surprise to me.
This government and all it's lackeys are more slippery then cat poop on linoleum, and nothing ever sticks to them. It's like you can't get anywhere near to the bottom of one scandal before you are distracted by a new one. That's some kind of modus operandi. Just keep churning out scandals until people lose track and become too jaded to expect any different.
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Thanx. I feel the same way...
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10-27-2022, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Man you got a burr under your saddle anything RCMP period, ever take a look at what is done locally, check the news, papers etc
I could post one good bust up every time you post but what would that amount too!
Maybe I should just because
As mentioned earlier the disconnect from senior management is often in all occupations and hard to find that one who remembers what it was like as a
Rookie etc and represents accordingly but some become self centred and a pawn to others which hurts all at ground level.
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I agree with that Cat.
But the present government and their paid media will only report the shady stuff as it fits their narrative.
Man o man...so many more good news stories than the bad ones at the local level. Hardly nobody hears about them. But that is OK.
I guess I will continue to agree to disagree with all the fine individuals that think otherwise...all good...
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10-27-2022, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Yet on another thread, you posted to hang women because they supposedly left Canada and joined ISIS? Why paint all supposed ISIS members with the same brush? Shouldn't they also be judged as individuals, and not as an organization?
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Things don't change much. Going so far as to compare the RCMP with ISIS now? Did I miss some beheadings and RCMP S-vests?
His point was that the individuals do stand up at the lower levels, and this entire subject matter proved that. It's ok to change your opinion in the face of facts. It's called being reasonable.
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10-27-2022, 06:36 PM
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Things don't change much. Going so far as to compare the RCMP with ISIS now? Did I miss some beheadings and RCMP S-vests?
His point was that the individuals do stand up at the lower levels, and this entire subject matter proved that. It's ok to change your opinion in the face of facts. It's called being reasonable.
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I wouldn’t compare the RCMP to Isis.
That doesn’t change the fact that the PMO dictates to the RCMP. With all of the scandals through all of the years. No PM has ever been charged. Even with multiple ethics violations Trudeau has never been investigated by the RCMP.
I wonder why that is? Our federal police force and government should not be aligned in any way.
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10-27-2022, 06:37 PM
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Are you serious?...Come on...you can't be....
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Either it's right to judge the organization as a whole, based on the actions of the leadership, or it's not right to judge an organization based on the actions of the leadership. The women that he posted should hang, haven't been found guilty of any crime, one hasn't even been charged with a crime, yet he posted to hang them, because they are accused of being associated with ISIS.
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I am not comparing the RCMP to ISIS,but on one hand we have someone that doesn't want the rank and file members to be tarnished because of the actions of their leaders, yet the same person wants people hung just because they are accused of being associated with ISIS, even though neither has been convicted of any crimes, and one hasn't even been charged with a crime. The RCMP is innocent until proven guilty, yet anyone even accused of being associated with ISIS should be hung, even if their haven't been proven guilty of any crime.
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10-27-2022, 06:49 PM
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Not much for playing dead myself at you don’t come across as that type either
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Too many do is the problem. How many rushed out and registered their guns when the long gun registry came along in '95? Control is easy...
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Not taking JT actions by enacting the Sovereignty Act for one, replacing RCMP with Alberta police force for 2, just a couple af her actions that people are complaining about that seem to address the issues in this thread. But this is just my own personal opinion.
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2 actions that need to be brought forth immediately. We already have sheriffs....maybe we could use more
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10-27-2022, 07:11 PM
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Not much for playing dead myself at you don’t come across as that type either
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You bet. In that regard you and i are on the same page
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10-27-2022, 07:38 PM
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Yes but we are also the people who vote them in giving them the ability to make theses rules
Lobby with enough support apply pressure on those who want votes holds possibility to cause them to crack. It doesn’t matter if one leans right or left I bet most would support accountability in Canadian politics as this is not polarized towards left or right views
People seem to forget without the support of the public a politician is no more then a man running his mouth
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It would be nice if we had accountability but when your choices to vote for are Corrupt party #1, Corrupt party #2, or Corrupt party #3 there never will be any accountability.
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10-28-2022, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rem338win
Things don't change much. Going so far as to compare the RCMP with ISIS now? Did I miss some beheadings and RCMP S-vests?
His point was that the individuals do stand up at the lower levels, and this entire subject matter proved that. It's ok to change your opinion in the face of facts. It's called being reasonable.
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Yes, this was what I meant, sorry for the confusion but your dealing with me
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It would be nice if we had accountability but when your choices to vote for are Corrupt party #1, Corrupt party #2, or Corrupt party #3 there never will be any accountability.
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Yes, politics are about preserving the power at all costs. Not about making the tough choices and doing what is right for the citizens.
Our entire parliamentary process does not work for the people. With the two houses, one appointed by the other it sets up the process for scandal, add in a useless GG and things don't get any better. Appointed politicians have nothing to worry about.
If each party leaders name was on every ballot in the country and we could vote for the PM in each riding across the country along with our MP vote, things would be different. If the Senate was actually voted for by the people, then our votes would be more powerful, more effective.
But this will never happen, it takes the control from the house and puts it back in the peoples hands. No politician would ever want that.
So we hold our noses and make a vote.
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10-28-2022, 07:16 AM
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Yes, politics are about preserving the power at all costs. Not about making the tough choices and doing what is right for the citizens.
Our entire parliamentary process does not work for the people. With the two houses, one appointed by the other it sets up the process for scandal, add in a useless GG and things don't get any better. Appointed politicians have nothing to worry about.
If each party leaders name was on every ballot in the country and we could vote for the PM in each riding across the country along with our MP vote, things would be different. If the Senate was actually voted for by the people, then our votes would be more powerful, more effective.
But this will never happen, it takes the control from the house and puts it back in the peoples hands. No politician would ever want that.
So we hold our noses and make a vote.
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The PM and his cabinet control the media, the courts and the police, they not only control what we do, they also control what we hear, and they have our courts and police to enforce their agenda. If they do something that isn't legal, their appointed judges rules for them, and their appointed police commissioner makes certain that they are not investigated or held accountable. If a lower court has an honest judge, that rules against them, the Supreme court overturns the decision. If the rank and file police don't agree with what they are doing, it doesn't matter, because they follow orders issued by their superiors. And this isn't going to change, because too many people are too clueless to see what is going on. They are gullible enough to believe that Trudeau and his mafia are banning firearms to protect the public, and that our courts and police will always be honest, and that they serve the taxpayers, and not the liberal/ndp mafia. And of course the liberals will do whatever they can to make certain that the system never changes, and many of the gullible people that elected them, will continue to support them.
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Yet on another thread, you posted to hang women because they supposedly left Canada and joined ISIS? Why paint all supposed ISIS members with the same brush? Shouldn't they also be judged as individuals, and not as an organization?
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NO ! Marine quote:
"It's God's Job To Judge The Terrorists .....
It's Our Mission To Arrange The meeting "
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The PM and his cabinet control the media, the courts and the police, they not only control what we do, they also control what we hear, and they have our courts and police to enforce their agenda. If they do something that isn't legal, their appointed judges rules for them, and their appointed police commissioner makes certain that they are not investigated or held accountable. If a lower court has an honest judge, that rules against them, the Supreme court overturns the decision. If the rank and file police don't agree with what they are doing, it doesn't matter, because they follow orders issued by their superiors. And this isn't going to change, because too many people are too clueless to see what is going on. They are gullible enough to believe that Trudeau and his mafia are banning firearms to protect the public, and that our courts and police will always be honest, and that they serve the taxpayers, and not the liberal/ndp mafia. And of course the liberals will do whatever they can to make certain that the system never changes, and many of the gullible people that elected them, will continue to support them.
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Did Chief Supt Darren Campbell follow orders from Lucki?...
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canadians have proven to be very tolerant of lying, cheating, and stealing.
Why would anyone who works for the government do anything else?
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Can anyone recall a Canadian government that has been more mired in scandal than this one? It seem to be a weekly or at least monthly problem for these people and there is never anyone held to account.
If this were a Conservative government they would have been ousted and likely lost party status after one term of the garbage that seems to be acceptable and rewardable conduct for these goons.
The world isn’t just laughing at this government they are laughing at Canadian voters
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Exactly!
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Did Chief Supt Darren Campbell follow orders from Lucki?...
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Where is the proof that he refused to obey a direct order from Lucki? Did he even receive a direct order from Lucki?
This indicates that the police were all trying to shift the blame to someone else.
https://adamrodgers.ca/2022/07/25/mc...point-fingers/
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At the end of all this bull...., and the end of the emergency inquiry, they will produce huge reports, with recommendations galore telling how to prevent these things from ever happening again. Nobody will read them, but they will make great paper weights/dust collectors! Hard to say how many millions are being pizzed away In a couple months these issues will be long forgotten and there'll be another crap show, compliments of the POS in Ottawa.
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At the end of all this bull...., and the end of the emergency inquiry, they will produce huge reports, with recommendations galore telling how to prevent these things from ever happening again. Nobody will read them, but they will make great paper weights/dust collectors! Hard to say how many millions are being pizzed away In a couple months these issues will be long forgotten and there'll be another crap show, compliments of the POS in Ottawa.
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Exactly, whether it is High River, the Ottawa Rally, or this situation, the result will be the same, nobody will be held accountable.
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NO ! Marine quote:
"It's God's Job To Judge The Terrorists .....
It's Our Mission To Arrange The meeting "
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Well put
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Exactly, whether it is High River, the Ottawa Rally, or this situation, the result will be the same, nobody will be held accountable.
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We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong
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We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong
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Pretty much.
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If the rank and file police don't agree with what they are doing, it doesn't matter, because they follow orders issued by their superiors. And this isn't going to change, because too many people are too clueless to see what is going on. .
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Nuremburg; Ve were only following orders.
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Duly noted...research a little more...I am done...Rather talk to a brick wall...
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