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Old 01-20-2021, 05:18 PM
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Trudeau spoke with Biden a few weeks back,, it's likely he discussed quashing keystone in order to make kenney look like a giant doofus and then Trudeau snags some votes for his precious Rideau throne.

We really need to voice outward from this forum.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:28 PM
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I deal with landowners in the Consort/Veteran area that had pipe liners renting their properties. They moved out in December and told the landowners they were being shut down. There are lots of right always that are stripped, that I assume, will need to be replaced. Lots of Micheals Canada right away signs all over the area.
I was doing maintenance at the camps there this fall haven't heard how busy they are lately though

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Old 01-20-2021, 05:32 PM
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Trump approved it 2 days less than a year ago, on January 22, 2020.
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Approved what less than a year ago?
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The Trump administration on Wednesday approved a right-of-way allowing the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline to be built across U.S. land, pushing the controversial $8 billion project closer to construction though court challenges still loom.

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Those segments of federal land are a small fraction of the pipeline's 1,200-mile (1,930-kilometer) route, but the right-of-way was crucial for a project that's obtained all the needed permits at the state and local levels.

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The stretch approved Wednesday includes all federal land crossed by the line, Hammond said. Much of the rest of the route is across private land, for which TC Energy has been acquiring permissions to build on.

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state Sen. Frank Smith said Trump's strong support for the project appeared to be pushing it through.

"All we can do is pray from here on in," Smith said. "The president said it's going through, and it's going through."

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This happened on January 22 of last year.

Edit: That is from a PBS article: Trump administration approves Keystone pipeline on U.S. land
You're off by a few years. lol
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:35 PM
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Can Kenny get a refund for the pipeline now?
Yup! #Fire Kenney.

If the UCP expects to have a chance in two years they have no choice but to fire him or in lieu accept his resignation.

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Old 01-20-2021, 05:37 PM
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You're off by a few years. lol
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:50 PM
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Yep. 4 years ago
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:53 PM
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You're off by a few years. lol
Lol. Not really. That’s when the federal permits were issued.

You can find and read what happened 4 years ago.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:59 PM
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Lol. Not really. That’s when the federal permits were issued.

You can find and read what happened 4 years ago.
Kinda a moot point today.

Sanctions being discussed right now.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:07 PM
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Kinda a moot point today.

Sanctions being discussed right now.
Agreed on the moot point.

In regards to sanctions talk (copied pasted from the net):

Moska and the elephant
A nice story from the Russian writer Krylov. (trying to translate)

Once upon a time there was an elephant in the city, which was led on the streets. Because it was very strange to see the elephant in our location, the crowd of gapers walked after him. And suddenly the little dog name Moska springs out from nowhere and starts to attack the elephant! It bays and barks, jumping around elephant and trying to bite him and behaves like a crazy. The big dog near him tells to Moska: "what's happened, my friend? it doesn't see and doesn't hear you at all? You see, he's going his own way and doesn't care about you at all".
- Nothing happened, - Moska replies, - But now I'm considered a big fighter without having even a fight. You see, the other dogs are saying "It seems that Moska is strongest fighter dog if it attacks the elephant".
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:08 PM
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Lol. Not really. That’s when the federal permits were issued.

You can find and read what happened 4 years ago.
I'm guessing I've been following the timeline of the Keystone since long before you knew what KXL even meant
Thanks for coming out and taking notice now that pedoJoe delayed it once again though
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:22 PM
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Agreed on the moot point.

In regards to sanctions talk (copied pasted from the net):

Moska and the elephant
A nice story from the Russian writer Krylov. (trying to translate)

Once upon a time there was an elephant in the city, which was led on the streets. Because it was very strange to see the elephant in our location, the crowd of gapers walked after him. And suddenly the little dog name Moska springs out from nowhere and starts to attack the elephant! It bays and barks, jumping around elephant and trying to bite him and behaves like a crazy. The big dog near him tells to Moska: "what's happened, my friend? it doesn't see and doesn't hear you at all? You see, he's going his own way and doesn't care about you at all".
- Nothing happened, - Moska replies, - But now I'm considered a big fighter without having even a fight. You see, the other dogs are saying "It seems that Moska is strongest fighter dog if it attacks the elephant".
The story is better when it's about the young buck in a field not wanting to look like a doe.

Analogies aside, sanctions are needed. Canada needs to be respected/relevant. Trudeau wants us to be fluffy feely goody submissive,, it's both boring and renders our citizens as no more than martyrs watching the world March forward.

We are a country of "what would you like us to be?"
As opposed
"We are doing this!!"
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:24 PM
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Can Kenny get a refund for the pipeline now?
I think that only works at Costco....
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:26 PM
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Or you could've picked lieutenant kije and then said " we have no identity, and are merely smudged ink appearing as a country."
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:32 PM
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I'm guessing I've been following the timeline of the Keystone since long before you knew what KXL even meant
Thanks for coming out and taking notice now that pedoJoe delayed it once again though
Key word, gonna get built eventually.

The more and more our most efficient form of energy gets beat down and dragged through the mud an increasingly larger portion of this countries various demographics will feel it. Right down to even the most "woke" and righteous who live on unicorn farts and avocado toast.

And that is when common sense will start kicking in. Sometimes things have to get a lot worse before they get better.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:40 PM
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The story is better when it's about the young buck in a field not wanting to look like a doe.

Analogies aside, sanctions are needed. Canada needs to be respected/relevant. Trudeau wants us to be fluffy feely goody submissive,, it's both boring and renders our citizens as no more than martyrs watching the world March forward.

We are a country of "what would you like us to be?"
As opposed
"We are doing this!!"
Haha. I prefer the elephant one.

Sure, we can impose sanctions (not gonna happen). But like the story says. I am also sure we will be thrown some kind of bone to “make up” for this decision. It ain’t getting built under this administration (perhaps, even never).
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:44 PM
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I guess we can only hope now that the Michigan Governor follows creepy Joes lead and shuts down line 5 replacement. That "might" wake up Ontario and Quebec folks when they can't get their gasoline, diesel , etc. Maybe that will convince our village idiot to put on his big boy pants for a change
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:21 PM
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Let's turn the tables on Trudeau, if he is pro Keystone and he likes buying pipelines, then he can buy this leg of the project from the Province of Alberta.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:24 PM
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I guess we can only hope now that the Michigan Governor follows creepy Joes lead and shuts down line 5 replacement. That "might" wake up Ontario and Quebec folks when they can't get their gasoline, diesel , etc. Maybe that will convince our village idiot to put on his big boy pants for a change
Can you confirm that you've seen his closet and he ACTUALLY owns a pair of those ???
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:25 PM
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Let's turn the tables on Trudeau, if he is pro Keystone and he likes buying pipelines, then he can buy this leg of the project from the Province of Alberta.
If he did...he would just be buying it with OUR own money....
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:37 PM
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Let's turn the tables on Trudeau, if he is pro Keystone and he likes buying pipelines, then he can buy this leg of the project from the Province of Alberta.
Not gonna happen. The guy controls both ends and in between of the other pipe. The other end of this one cannot be controlled from our side. Can’t believe I am saying it, but the guy is not a complete idiot, if you know what I mean.
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Old 01-20-2021, 10:24 PM
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What a world we live in. Politicians hell bent on closing down industries and the economy for sake of their own careers.
Best encourage your children to give their children Chinese names because that's who will own North America in 20 years. China will be so far ahead of us by then, we'll be like cavemen to them.
But we'll be more inclusive and the climate will miraculously recover, right?
We've truly lost our way.
Oh, and blame Jason Kenny for it.
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:18 AM
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Vivian Krause . . . Anti-pipeline campaign was planned . . . .
Anyone familiar with her report(s) ?
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:46 AM
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My belief Biden's rational for stopping KXL is to create a oil glut in Canada and a resulting lower oil price for US. More oil will be shipped into US by rail rather than KXL - hardly making the rational that it was a environmental decision.
Canada / US relation should not have best friends relationship in the future. This needs to be made clear to Biden.
I do not understand why the KXL pipeline was not part of the new free trade agreement? Failure of Trudeau for sure.
US will be importing more oil from countries supporting terrorism rather than Canada - very sad.
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:04 AM
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What a world we live in. Politicians hell bent on closing down industries and the economy for sake of their own careers.
Best encourage your children to give their children Chinese names because that's who will own North America in 20 years. China will be so far ahead of us by then, we'll be like cavemen to them.
But we'll be more inclusive and the climate will miraculously recover, right?
We've truly lost our way.
Oh, and blame Jason Kenny for it.
No one is blaming the little cheat for the cancellation of the pipeline. He should get blame for a lame duck investment. He could have easily set the money aside, and waited for the election results. The province could use that 1.5 Billion dollars today for better things. The cheat should be fired for the bad investment(and many other boneheaded moves), not the cancellation of Keystone.
#Fire Kenney.

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Old 01-21-2021, 07:14 AM
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This is how the Turd call to Biden will go today. Turd hole will kiss Bidens rear end to keep Enbridge line 5 open to the east. Him and Biden will do a little happy dance over shutting down KXL. Turdo will promise to let Biden sniff his hair for as long as he wants when they meet again. The east is happy and Alberta gets screwed once again.

Hopefully Enbridge line 3 gets finished in 4q 2021 (400K BBL more takeaway) and TMX in 2022. We cannot handle any more nation destroying actions by the east/lefties.
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:56 AM
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The sad fact is it will cost us and canadain tax payers billions because of this, it will be in court for years.
You cannot just issue a order and stop a ongoing project without huge fines, and payments to the contractor.
It will end up costing them more than if they would have just put it in the ground.
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Old 01-21-2021, 08:13 AM
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In my humble opinion Kenny's 1.5 billion dollar waste of taxpayer money on Keystone XL is yet one more example of his naïve foolish incomitance. Even a fool should have anticipated and foreseen the high likelihood of the Dems being elected back into power in the US a year ago. It was crystal clear what this would mean for the Keystone pipeline.
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Old 01-21-2021, 08:51 AM
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In my humble opinion Kenny's 1.5 billion dollar waste of taxpayer money on Keystone XL is yet one more example of his naïve foolish incomitance. Even a fool should have anticipated and foreseen the high likelihood of the Dems being elected back into power in the US a year ago. It was crystal clear what this would mean for the Keystone pipeline.
Kenny painted a political picture of hope....burry the bugger....
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Old 01-21-2021, 08:54 AM
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Trudeau sure folded on this in record time.... he doesn't even attempt to defend Canadian jobs, he just shrugs his shoulders and accepts it.
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Trudeau sure folded on this in record time.... he doesn't even attempt to defend Canadian jobs, he just shrugs his shoulders and accepts it.
Not sure any of us expected otherwise. The only jobs JT defends are those in the east.
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