Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:31 PM
Reeves1's Avatar
Reeves1 Reeves1 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Westlock
Posts: 5,533
Default Mortgage due

TD sent me a bunch of papers.
They offered for 5 years @ 3.69 %
10 years @ 4.29 %

From what I (seem) to remember reading here, that is high ? Sounds high to me.....

Go to a broker ? Any good ones out there ? Call banks ?

I don't keep up to date on this stuff.....
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:35 PM
pophouseman's Avatar
pophouseman pophouseman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeves1 View Post
TD sent me a bunch of papers.
They offered for 5 years @ 3.69 %
10 years @ 4.29 %

From what I (seem) to remember reading here, that is high ? Sounds high to me.....

Go to a broker ? Any good ones out there ? Call banks ?

I don't keep up to date on this stuff.....
a bit high, you should be able to get 5 years at 3.3% or so
__________________
Popped a Molly, I'm Sweating! WHOO!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:41 PM
geezer55 geezer55 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 757
Default

When paying for the mortages that I had I would jump at a 10 years mortage at 4.29% after paying mortages at 15%-17% in the 1980's.
__________________
Proper Planning Prevents P**s-poor Performance!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:42 PM
Lefty-Canuck's Avatar
Lefty-Canuck Lefty-Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,780
Default

I think ScotiaBank was offering 10yrs @ 3.69 or so about a month ago.

LC
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-11-2013, 03:42 PM
bosshog bosshog is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Calgary
Posts: 502
Default

Definetly call around. We just got pre-approved for 2.89 for a 5 year fixed but I was told they raised rates shortly after they approved us. Never hurts to call a broker either and see what they can offer.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-11-2013, 04:25 PM
sewerrat's Avatar
sewerrat sewerrat is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 2,629
Default

We just got ours for 2.89% with a broker, we were with the scotia bank before, she found out that we went with a broker and said that they could match it,.............. Sorry to late..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-11-2013, 04:33 PM
Dona Dona is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 221
Default

TD very seldom does a Mortgage - i believe yours would be a Collateral Loan which is very difficult to get out of should you sell. Rates have risen in the past few weeks. They are a bit high but not by much.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-11-2013, 04:38 PM
Austin's Avatar
Austin Austin is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Edmonton SW
Posts: 1,565
Default

I have a buddy that works at Dominion Lending. They check around for best rates (Don Cherry commercial). Give my buddy a call at 780-945-7140 Dan Piercy is his name.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-11-2013, 04:50 PM
HunterDave HunterDave is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Copperhead Road, Morinville
Posts: 19,290
Default

The rates that they quoted you are for any Tom, Dick or Harry that walks in off the street. Talk to your bank manager and he should be able to take at least another half a percent off of that. Depending on the market he could take up to one % off but interest rates are rising right now.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-11-2013, 05:05 PM
justsomeguy justsomeguy is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Okotoks
Posts: 1,069
Default

yeah, don't take their first number, need to push for better. As well, everyone put their rates up about 0.5 percent july 1.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-11-2013, 05:11 PM
roger's Avatar
roger roger is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: wmu 222, member #197
Posts: 4,907
Default

for what its worth, i was just standing in the lineup waiting for free coffee at Servus and noticed the prime was at 3%.
__________________
there are two kinds of people...those with loaded guns and those who dig.
the good, the bad, the ugly

weatherby fans clik here....
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/group.php?groupid=31
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-11-2013, 05:16 PM
Wisebuck's Avatar
Wisebuck Wisebuck is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North east AB
Posts: 396
Default

I renewed at 3.37% for 5 yrs with RBC . I figure that is good enough but obviously some are getting better rates.
__________________
Huntin and fishin fool!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-11-2013, 06:30 PM
gpgriz gpgriz is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GP
Posts: 575
Default Rates jumped.

Ya.rates jumped in the last few weeks. ARGH!

A month ago, Scotia was offering me 2.99 for 4 yrs.
That one is no longer available... And no, I didn't lock that down.

I discussed rates with a broker, she had access to a 5yr at 3.34 and a 10 yr at 3.99.

I'm gonna miss my 2.5.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-11-2013, 07:15 PM
Big Daddy Badger Big Daddy Badger is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 12,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer55 View Post
When paying for the mortages that I had I would jump at a 10 years mortage at 4.29% after paying mortages at 15%-17% in the 1980's.
Oh yes.... the 80's.
Our own mortage meltdown of sorts.... and record unemployment.

A lot of folks lost their shirts when they were that high.

My folks had theirs locked in at about 9%.
I can remember Dad commenting that all the neighbours now declaring bankrupsy and walking away from their houses had only a few months earlier advised him that he was nuts to lock it in.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-11-2013, 07:22 PM
Blastoff Blastoff is offline
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Canterbury
Posts: 1,316
Default

Sorry but I wish the rates would get back to 17% so I can make some Money. I think there to low at 4%, it would make some people borrow what they can afford.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-11-2013, 07:38 PM
Big Daddy Badger Big Daddy Badger is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 12,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blastoff View Post
Sorry but I wish the rates would get back to 17% so I can make some Money. I think there to low at 4%, it would make some people borrow what they can afford.
And how would you make more money at 17%?

People woiuld simply quit borrowing and others would default and walk away leaving the bank holding properties that they can't sell.

Those interest rates resulted in widespread loss, unemployment and a national debt that cost us our international rating..
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-11-2013, 07:50 PM
buckbrushoutdoors's Avatar
buckbrushoutdoors buckbrushoutdoors is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fort Saskatchewan
Posts: 3,698
Default

I bought a new place this may and I got 2.89 for 5 thru scotia bank
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-11-2013, 08:55 PM
AppleJax's Avatar
AppleJax AppleJax is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sturgeon County
Posts: 1,893
Default

I'm currently at 3.9 and have 1 year and change remaining on a 5 year fixed. Am I better off waiting to sign in a year or will they let me sign again for a better rate and not take to much of a hit? Maybe a better question for the bank I know...
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-11-2013, 09:06 PM
Hunter1602's Avatar
Hunter1602 Hunter1602 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,629
Default

2.89 5 years here. Shop around.. Rates will be going up soon.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-11-2013, 09:11 PM
Chris89lx's Avatar
Chris89lx Chris89lx is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Langdon
Posts: 447
Default

Just signed yesterday at 2.79% on a 4 year fixed with CIBC.
Called around with brokers and no one could touch it.
My offer had been in the works for over a month to get that rate though.
Lucky timing for me.
__________________
“My rifle … this is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my friend … I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle without me is useless … I will learn its strengths and weaknesses, its parts, its accessories, its sights, and its barrel. I will keep it clean and ready, we will become part of each other … before God, I swear this creed.” General William H. Rupertus
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-11-2013, 09:53 PM
sillyak sillyak is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lacombe, AB
Posts: 1,404
Default

I got a 5 year fixed at 3.09% when we bought our house this May.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-12-2013, 01:18 AM
HunterDave HunterDave is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Copperhead Road, Morinville
Posts: 19,290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleJax View Post
I'm currently at 3.9 and have 1 year and change remaining on a 5 year fixed. Am I better off waiting to sign in a year or will they let me sign again for a better rate and not take to much of a hit? Maybe a better question for the bank I know...
You can do a blend and extend if you are close to renewing your mortgage. They take your old rate and combine it with your new rate that you negotiate and use that rate. I did that when I was coming due almost 10 years ago and I locked in a 10 year fixed at 3.25%. WooHoo!

It's worth asking your bank manager about if you like the security of a low rate for an extended period of time. Right now I wouldn't be comfortable with a 5 year fixed. With my luck I'd be renewing at 9% when it came time.

Better safe than sorry is my thinking but I'm not much of a gambler when it comes to my mortgage.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-12-2013, 01:43 AM
bigd bigd is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 907
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sewerrat View Post
We just got ours for 2.89% with a broker, we were with the scotia bank before, she found out that we went with a broker and said that they could match it,.............. Sorry to late..
This is exactly how our recent mortgage experience went, same rate and same outcome. Another lost client for Scotiabank.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-12-2013, 08:31 AM
dantonsen's Avatar
dantonsen dantonsen is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: edmonton
Posts: 1,428
Default

bond yields more or less dictate where mortgage rates go.... They have gone up almost 1% in a month.

5-7% was 10 years ago considered a pretty decent deal on a mortgage, better start locking in those mortgages

In all reality a jump from 3% to 7% is only roughly 700$ per month extra on a 350k house, I would imagine most people would calculate in a scenario with historically normal I interest rates when buying a home right?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-12-2013, 09:30 AM
beerhunter's Avatar
beerhunter beerhunter is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 905
Default

2.79% 5 year fixed just done 3 weeks ago, Royal Bank. I had to work for that one but the word "I am still shopping around" works very well to get them to their bottom rate. I couldn't find any better rate around.

The banks send out their renewals and 80% of the people just sign on the dotted line and away they go. If you challenge them there is usually a better option. I haven't had to switch banks but still shopped the market to keep them honest.

I do this with insurance every few years too. It seems every year your insurance rates keep rising and then when I go to shop around to see what I can get compared to what I am paying there seems to be a company that wants my business a little more and will offer me some savings. When I go back to my insurance company and they don't want to match the new rates I move all my business to the new insurance company. Most times my existing company tweaks my rates to keep me as a customer.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-12-2013, 03:58 PM
gpgriz gpgriz is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GP
Posts: 575
Default what about different terms in years?

This is my current conundrum...

my current options are:

3 yrs @ 2.89%
4 @ 3.09
5 @ 3.19
7 @ 3.79
10 @ 3.99

I don't plan to sell the house within 5yrs for sure.
Within 7 yrs, not likely.
Within 10 yrs... can't see that far ahead.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-13-2013, 06:22 PM
rayf01 rayf01 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 239
Default

I just locked in at scotia to renew in september for 5 years at 2.79
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-13-2013, 07:15 PM
gpgriz gpgriz is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GP
Posts: 575
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rayf01 View Post
I just locked in at scotia to renew in september for 5 years at 2.79
Just curious... When you say 'just', exactly how long ago?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-13-2013, 11:30 PM
Zuludog's Avatar
Zuludog Zuludog is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Beaumont
Posts: 3,389
Default

I have a 10 year @ 3.89%. When I locked in my mortgage broker said that was the best rate that he had ever seen.

This was about a year ago BTW. For those asking I'd Seriously consider locking in for ten years @ 3.79 if you could get it.
__________________
The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. Then why do I hunt? I hunt for the same reason my well-fed cat hunts...because I must, because it is in the blood, because I am the decendent of a thousand generations of hunters. I hunt because I am a hunter.- Finn Aagard
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 07-14-2013, 07:06 AM
jethunter jethunter is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 303
Default

I've got a 5 yr variable with RBC for 2.35%. Really.

When my mortgage term was up last year RBC offered a 3.25% variable and wouldn't budge off it. I walked across the street to TD and they offered me a 2.7% variable on the spot. I took that offer back to RBC and showed them, and they offered me the 2.35% rate the same day.

They will offer a better rate if they know you are actively looking somewhere else - take your papers and get some more quotes and take that back to your bank and I bet you get a much better rate offered to you. Banks make a lot of money from people that are too lazy to shop around.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.