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Old 06-06-2011, 08:43 AM
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http://www.edmontonjournal.com/life/...369/story.html

WATERTON PARK Alta. — With stunning mountain views in all directions, visitors here naturally cast their eyes upward.


But that would be a mistake — at least when deer are nearby. They've started hoofing dogs and stalking people.


"One lady got hypothermia pretty badly because she got chased into the lake. She was elderly and she just grabbed her little dog and backed into the lake," said Barb Johnston, an ecosystems scientist with Parks Canada.


The situation got so bad last year park staff started marking wayward deer with coloured paintballs when the creatures chased dogs or stared down children.


Ones struck multiple times with paintball markets were removed from the park. But half the painted deer came back.


At first the humans assumed aggressive behaviour was limited to females trying to protect fawns hidden in long grass and near garden planter boxes. That theory soon changed.


"It's females without fawns and even young males and there's no natural reason they should be doing that," said Johnston. Rather, aggressiveness has become a learned behaviour.


"I think they just think it's fun."


The deer have grown too accustomed to the townspeople and the tourists, who feed them popcorn, candy and sandwiches in exchange for close-up photographs.


It was time for a change of tactics.


First, Johnston ordered a raft of new signs to warn people of the danger. A company in Calgary produced four neon-yellow triangles depicting a black stick figure cowering under the raised hoofs of an attacking deer.


Three of the signs were promptly stolen. More are on order.


Enter Christine Jobe, who has been training, breeding and working border collies since 1994.


She's camped in a trailer in the town. Every morning at 6:30 she takes a few of her dogs on a hazing run of the town, hoping to discourage the deer from fawning.


The deer see the dogs and bolt.


Although only in its first week, the hazing seems to be working. The deer bolt by sun up. But they soon come back, forcing Jobe to conduct up to four sweeps of the town per day.


The attacks don't tend to start until June — when a confluence of tourists, summering townspeople and mating ungulate hormones proves too heady to avoid conflict.


"I've watched people walking their dogs and they're acting scared. The deer can sense that. The deer know," she said. "It's noticeable, the changed behaviour. They do this little walk. It's stalking behaviour."


Jonhston said the dogs were considered after she saw them successfully run elk out of Banff.


The deer have yet to aim a hoof at the face of any of Jobe's collies.


Although most townspeople seem happy to see the deer get their comeuppance, shopkeeper and longtime resident Carol Cruickshank worries about disappointing visitors.


"I really like seeing deer fawns born in the backyard and the tourists, of course, love them," she said. "I fear that if we chase them all out of town, the tourists will miss seeing them."


Even the most ardent supporter, however, acknowledges the deer are becoming a problem.


"I've been chased many, many times," she said. "Yeah, it's pretty scary when it happens to you, especially when you have a child. The dogs, you can't let them off their leash, but I think it's part of being in the town."



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Old 06-06-2011, 09:10 AM
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You should see them around my town.Everywhere and eating everything.I keep my .22 pellet rifle handy,it makes them jump pretty good when they are eating everything in my yard.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:27 AM
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Had an encounter at Waterton 2 summers ago. A doe with twin fawns would not get off the trail, and I almost had to poke her with my hiking pole to get her to move.

Deer shouldn't be that used to people I don't think.

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Old 06-06-2011, 10:47 AM
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We had a run in with one in waterton hiking up to bertha falls i belive. He was a nice 4 point that was about a foot or two away from getting a hiking stick in the throat. He was on our heals for 4 or5 switchbacks before we had to stop and stand up to him. Sure gets the heart pumpen
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:54 AM
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waterton has a real problem with deer and it is only going to get worse. I have been repeatedly challenged and chased by different deer in the townsite..and if you have a dog with you it gets even more crazy.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:57 AM
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They are so stupid, quite often there are Muleys right on main street here, I have chased them off with my quad a couple times.

Too bad about the 'agressive play' behavior though. If the people would stop feeding them sandwiches the problem would not exist. I have to admit though, we absolutely love the squirrel rodeo with a peanut tied to fishing line, which makes us no better than the tourists sharing snacks.

Really I would rather feed a wild animal than shoot it.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:09 AM
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Samuel White Baker once decided to stalk and kill a stag with a knife.

He did it on a bet, snuck up on it, killed it with the knife and carried it back.

This happened in Scotland.




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The title of the thread should read "Human-stalking deer" not Human stalking deer".
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Had an encounter at Waterton 2 summers ago. A doe with twin fawns would not get off the trail, and I almost had to poke her with my hiking pole to get her to move.

Deer shouldn't be that used to people I don't think.

I thought Unicorns only lived in Banff....
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I thought unicorns only lived in Banff...
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:36 PM
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Edit:
The title of the thread should read "Human-stalking deer" not Human stalking deer".
Your right, I think a even better title would have been- "When Bambi attacks; just for the fun of it"

Louis CK with maybe the best take ever on deer. Listen up Waterton. Rats with hoofs indeed.

http://youtu.be/MoMXovAuCKA
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I thought Unicorns only lived in Banff....
lol took me a second there!!!!!!!!!
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ib4thevideoofthedeerchasingthedg
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ib4thevideoofthedeerchasingthedg
Only because you asked for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0DkEcZ_k8Q
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