Thin blue line

[Jayhad]

Is the thin blue line the line they stepped over when they stole guns from homes in High River?

Will these Thin Blue line stickers and patches stop them from coming in to my home to take my legally purchased firearms bolstered by the threat of violence to force compliance?

I understand these folks have a hard job, and aren't currently the apple of the public's eye, but it is a job they chose.

[pgavey]

Don't blame the front line officers, it's top brass who takes the orders from Turdo and his buddies. Look at the Rosco case 4 young men lost there lives, but the guy who ordered them in walked away.

[heybert]

Originally Posted by Jayhad

Is the thin blue line the line they stepped over when they stole guns from homes in High River?

Will these Thin Blue line stickers and patches stop them from coming in to my home to take my legally purchased firearms bolstered by the threat of violence to force compliance?

I understand these folks have a hard job, and aren't currently the apple of the public's eye, but it is a job they chose.

Yeah, it's the thin blue line that they step over to rescue your ass because it's the job they chose.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Jayhad

Is the thin blue line the line they stepped over when they stole guns from homes in High River?

Will these Thin Blue line stickers and patches stop them from coming in to my home to take my legally purchased firearms bolstered by the threat of violence to force compliance?

I understand these folks have a hard job, and aren't currently the apple of the public's eye, but it is a job they chose.

there just following orders and yup when your down and out and need assistance your going to wish for the first responders/police to be there....cops don't just kick down anyone's doors...99.9 percent of the time there is an idiot on the other side....

[GWN]

Wear it proudly,

The carpet cops who poo-poo and wring their hands indignantly seldom if ever came up through the ranks and while they have run the comm center like champs they were often scared of the dark and spent their shift in some dark, warm, quiet corner of town

They're great wrestling the Keurig, not so good in the real world

[Scottmisfits]

I had a very close friend, a man who was basically my uncle, gunned down in cold blood while wearing the uniform. While I don5 have issues with the patch, I agree it should not be worn on the uniform unless it is approved to be.

I honestly don’t know if it is, nor do I really care. I don’t really ever have enough close encounters with them that I notice.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by shep dog

Would you wear one to show support for Const. Alex Dunn of the CPS?

The men and women who work in LE are not necessarily angels.

While they're not all angels, the overwhelming majority aren't like Alex Dunn; to suggest that the entire group is guilty due to the actions of the anomaly among them is quite prejudicial. Are all hunters poachers? Are all religious people murderous zealots? I could go on....

Hell yeah, I'd put up a thin blue line somewhere, perhaps I'll order something. Certainly not for Dunn though as he's forfeited his membership to that brotherhood/sisterhood; but for all of the good ones, absolutely.

[tri777]

Can all the cop haters take a hike, this thread is about supporting the thin Blue line, there is absolutely
no room for hijacking this particular kind of thread. Kindly start that topic in another thread.

[BCSteel]

Original post

Originally Posted by pgavey

How do you feel about police wearing the patch. I am in full support of them wearing it. Matter of fact I would wear one, if I had one. Upper brass has a different opinion.

Originally Posted by tri777

Can all the cop haters take a hike, this thread is about supporting the thin Blue line, there is absolutely
no room for hijacking this particular kind of thread. Kindly start that topic in another thread.

Can all the boot lickers kindly take a hike, this thread specifically asked for people's opinion on the thin blue line patch, there is absolutely no room for hijacking this particular thread because you don't like an opinion that's not yours. Kindly start that topic in another thread.

[Mulehahn]

No, they are not all like Alex Dunn. Most do their job well. But in the same breath, there are enough Alex Dunns among them that every officer knows one or two. Yet they each stand behind that thin Blue line to protect them. For that reason I won't wear it.

I have never seen an officer come forward after these videos and say "yes, he beat that handcuffed and helpless person. I should of stopped him but I didn't. I am equally to blame."

I have no problem with the profession of a police officer. It is truly a calling. I am always courteous and polite in my dealings with police. I have several retired officers I volunteer with I would even call friends. But I will not blindly support any group that blindly supports all its members because of some noble idea. What is noble is doing what is right, even if it hard or unpopular.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by Mulehahn

No, they are not all like Alex Dunn. Most do their job well. But in the same breath, there are enough Alex Dunns among them that every officer knows one or two. Yet they each stand behind that thin Blue line to protect them. For that reason I won't wear it.

I have never seen an officer come forward after these videos and say "yes, he beat that handcuffed and helpless person. I should of stopped him but I didn't. I am equally to blame."

I have no problem with the profession of a police officer. It is truly a calling. I am always courteous and polite in my dealings with police. I have several retired officers I volunteer with I would even call friends. But I will not blindly support any group that blindly supports all its members because of some noble idea. What is noble is doing what is right, even if it hard or unpopular.

You must have missed the part where this whole Alex Dunn case was brought about by a supervisor that witnessed it and took action on it, so there goes that entire narrative.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

You must have missed the part where this whole Alex Dunn case was brought about by a supervisor that witnessed it and took action on it, so there goes that entire narrative.

Much respect your way Caber......but there's just too many instances where the thin blue line is abused. Where's the carbine? Oh they found it, charges never laid, kid still a cop, his dad's long serving CPS. That and way too many more.

[Ken07AOVette]

I am to the point sadly that I would love to sport a TBL sticker on the truck, but living in redneck stained britches country it would make me a target for vandalism.

Idiots even in Lloydminster and Vermilion are taking the blm movement (so aptly named, so much llike a bowel movement in so many ways) way too far and it is getting worse as the idiots get more discontent and even more riled up by online trolls in the hopes of riots and staged protests. I think some of these morons are doing it in hopes of being paid protestors. One guy in Vermilion is absolutely nuts about it and dragging weak minded sheep with him.

[tri777]

Originally Posted by BCSteel

Can all the boot lickers kindly take a hike,
this thread specifically asked for people's opinion on the thin blue line patch, there is absolutely no
room for hijacking this particular thread because you don't like an opinion that's not yours.
Kindly start that topic in another thread.

YES, opinions on 'the thin blue line patch'..NOT
on gun grabs in High River/Alex Dunn/other bad experiences with the Cops.

If you hate Cops, Ban yourself permanently from ever calling on them for the rest of your life,
that would at least be integrity of standing behind your belief.

[Surly]

Originally Posted by roper1

Much respect your way Caber......but there's just too many instances where the thin blue line is abused. Where's the carbine? Oh they found it, charges never laid, kid still a cop, his dad's long serving CPS. That and way too many more.

The officer who took that carbine and restricted mags loaded with ammo home for "cleaning" is a notorious coke head and was using the firearms as a trade to settle some of his debts.

Too often the thin blue line becomes the blue wall of intransigence.

The uniform is standardized for the entire organization. The members must abide by the managements' rules whether they like it or not.

[shep dog]

I genuinely hope no one is proud of CPS Const. Alex Dunn.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Surly

The officer who took that carbine and restricted mags loaded with ammo home for "cleaning" is a notorious coke head and was using the firearms as a trade to settle some of his debts.

Too often the thin blue line becomes the blue wall of intransigence.

The uniform is standardized for the entire organization. The members must abide by the managements' rules whether they like it or not.

That's a pretty serious allegation that I would be very interested to hear the background on. You know him?

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by tri777

YES, opinions on 'the thin blue line patch'..NOT
on gun grabs in High River/Alex Dunn/other bad experiences with the Cops.

If you hate Cops, Ban yourself permanently from ever calling on them for the rest of your life,
that would at least be integrity of standing behind your belief.

I feel the same way. Anyone who repeatedly bashes the cops (there are a few on this forum) should be tagged and the cops can decide if they want to attend to a call from help from those people...since they seem to feel they can do the job so much better.

[Surly]

Originally Posted by rem338win

That's a pretty serious allegation that I would be very interested to hear the background on. You know him?

It's not an allegation, it is a factual statement.

I received my information from a senior RCMP officer whos name I'm not about to divulge.

[shep dog]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

I feel the same way. Anyone who repeatedly bashes the cops (there are a few on this forum) should be tagged and the cops can decide if they want to attend to a call from help from those people...since they seem to feel they can do the job so much better.

There are good LEO's and bad LEO's, good plumbers and bad plumbers...the list does on...doctors, lawyers, mechanics...

i strongly disagree with someone being, as you crudely put it, "tagged" by the "cops" for "cop bashing."

[roper1]

Two hundred million dollars & counting 'settled' lawsuits against the RCMP. 125 women from 9 provinces & 3 territories in the first cool 100 mil.

Something like 125 complainants in the first suit alone. Estimates are for every person complaining & identified, there could be 6-10 more who for various reasons never formally complain. Now we're well into many hundreds.

Would anyone who supports the thin blue line kindly give a real estimate how many officers that either harassed or stood silently by while their peers did ?

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by shep dog

There are good LEO's and bad LEO's, good plumbers and bad plumbers...the list does on...doctors, lawyers, mechanics...

i strongly disagree with someone being, as you crudely put it, "tagged" by the "cops" for "cop bashing."

You are correct, there’s bad in any profession...but there are a few here who border on being downright disrespectful to all law enforcement on principle, and make their opinions known as they chime in when given any chance.
Yet I’m pretty sure that if they were in a position of personal danger, and a cop was nearby and the only thing stopping them from personal injury they’d be only to glad to have them there.

[hilt134]

It doesnt really make sense to me. The thin blue line currently means pro police. I know there is a real meaning to the saying however it now means somthing a bit diffrent and i am unsure why a cop would need a badge to say he is pro police. Seems a bit redundant

[heybert]

Originally Posted by roper1

Two hundred million dollars & counting 'settled' lawsuits against the RCMP. 125 women from 9 provinces & 3 territories in the first cool 100 mil.

Something like 125 complainants in the first suit alone. Estimates are for every person complaining & identified, there could be 6-10 more who for various reasons never formally complain. Now we're well into many hundreds.

Would anyone who supports the thin blue line kindly give a real estimate how many officers that either harassed or stood silently by while their peers did ?

You seem to have all the numbers so why don’t you? Also, could you let us know of the real estimate of how many officers that did say something or took action against their peers because they knew it was the right thing to do.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by roper1

Much respect your way Caber......but there's just too many instances where the thin blue line is abused. Where's the carbine? Oh they found it, charges never laid, kid still a cop, his dad's long serving CPS. That and way too many more.

I agree there's some bad apples to weed out, take the CPS officer on trial for instance, from the video I don't think he should be on the job (even though I'd love to see that same move done to innumerable male recidivists). I was just noting that he was reported by someone within the system (I was not clear whether that person was also a police officer or perhaps someone within corrections system, I just read 'supervisor'.) I'm not deluded into thinking every last cop is flawless, but I personally know lots of good people in LE and consider many of them my friends. I just tire of the people who seem to rain on cops in perpetuity as though they're all power-abusing heels. These days, I empathize with LE as there's really a witch hunt going on, instead of just hating the bad cops that have exposed themselves, many hate the entire profession. The harassment they must put up with from mouthy idiots these days must be at an all-time high. Just trying to get through your shift and some in-person internet troll is in their face trying to bait them into doing something with friends recording the event from multiple angles.

The other examples of bad policing such as the High River gun grab and such are certainly not to be condoned, those who were there should have known better than to obey a bad order & those giving such orders should not have been employed the instant that came to light. Then there's the RCMP who were shooting at the fire hall during the Nova Scotia murder rampage, that incident sure got buried right quick. There's lots of bad examples, but we just don't see a lot of the good examples as the everyday stuff doesn't sell papers quite the same.


I also know some EMS workers and that's got to be an occupation with high turnover, what with the stream of junkies they wind up treating, only to wind up treating a variety of them repeatedly with numerous hospital visits each. In some jobs your 'regulars' are anything but appreciated! Just imagining the combined EMS and police hours tied up with these people, and the effect that kind of experience has on the psyche's of the various emergency services personnel. At least they do get to save lots of decent folks though, so at least something offsets that cycle of misery.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Surly

It's not an allegation, it is a factual statement.

I received my information from a senior RCMP officer whos name I'm not about to divulge.

Uh huh. Then that's a faceless allegation not fact. Also known as a rumor.

[Surly]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Uh huh. Then that's a faceless allegation not fact. Also known as a rumor.

Whatever you say. If you are curious regarding the validity of my statement you can do your own research. I'm sure you can befriend a CPS officer or two.

[BCSteel]

Originally Posted by tri777

YES, opinions on 'the thin blue line patch'..NOT

on gun grabs in High River/Alex Dunn/other bad experiences with the Cops.



If you hate Cops, Ban yourself permanently from ever calling on them for the rest of your life,

that would at least be integrity of standing behind your belief.

Imagine crawling to the police for anything lol The vast majority of police work is coddling the dregs of society and giving out speeding tickets. Conviction rates on burglary, vehicle theft and assault are so low that you're better off taking care of business yourself.

The integrity of the police is garbage from even just a couple decades ago. They went from a respectful profession of public servants to a gang of untouchables flaunting their power. Defacing their uniform with a blue line patch is just one more slap in the face in a never ending list of policies they ignore with impunity.

[tri777]

Originally Posted by BCSteel

Imagine crawling to the police for anything lol The vast majority of police work is coddling the dregs of society and giving out speeding tickets. Conviction rates on burglary, vehicle theft and assault are so low that you're better off taking care of business yourself.

The integrity of the police is garbage from even just a couple decades ago. They went from a respectful profession of public servants to a gang of untouchables flaunting their power. Defacing their uniform with a blue line patch is just one more slap in the face in a never ending list of policies they ignore with impunity.

I guess we will have to go on living in our very different worlds with our very different outcomes.

To counter balance, here's a POV of mine,
Me in 2001, completely lost in B.C. for almost 40mins in rented car with my mom and cancer stricken
grandmother returning from Butchart Gardens. I spot a police car parked in a lot doing paper work. I quickly
yank steering wheel off road & drive up to her, tell her my issue. She quickly sorts up all her papers, says:
"Follow me", after nearly 5kms, we start approaching massive intersection and she suddenly rolls down her window,
points to go left, so I mistakingly brake, taking an immediate left thinking she meant that one before the
intersection. I quickly turn back around, but now buried in what seems to be 100's of cars blocking me
and the ever changing traffic lights & drivers holding me in to get back on the hwy. Cop sits on the side of
hwy watching for almost 2mins.
What does she do?
She turns on her over Red & Blue's, drives into the massive intersection, Halts all traffic in all 4 directions, and
waves on to me (sitting some 300ft in the distance) to proceed through..i never felt so Presidential going
through traffic (of course accompanied with the most beat red face approaching all those driver's wondering
"What's so special about this guy in the red impala"

Fast forward to May of this year,
me in unfamiliar SUV going down hwy at 125km/hr (felt a lot slower), suddenly, Red/Blues in rear mirror,
takes my info, checks my driving record, gets back out, approaches car we talk about gun ranges
and with that "OK, your good, but SLOW Down".

In conclusion, My experience with Cops: "They are NOT garbage" or just there to hand out a speeding ticket.

[CaberTosser]

Ever notice how fast most of the local gang murders get charges laid these days? I'm quite used to seeing charges within a few days of the murder.

I was on a jobsite in the Beltline within the last two years and I saw a minivan parked on my clients property, but quickly realized it was the police gang unit when the officers stepped out with their uniforms looking a lot like those of the tactical team. I spoke with them and saw they were waiting for a flat-deck tow truck, they loaded up and hauled away the dumpster from a 24 story condo tower to search it off site for evidence. I quickly realized it would was probably related to a homicide that occurred within 24 hours prior to that, they can't be hauling entire dumpsters to search for anything but a major case. Sure enough, soon after this I read news of people being charged in the homicide and the address was noted of the same building the dumpster was seized from. I guess it wasn't their day for traffic tickets and dregs-of-society-coddling. Mmmm, dumpsters.