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Old 11-14-2018, 09:22 PM
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Hello all,

Well, after this season is over I am going to likely get a Samik Sage recurve to learn to shoot over the winter. I know nothing aside from watching a couple youtube videos.

Some totally basic questions:

- What draw weight is good to start out with to gain good form and what draw weight should you work up to for deer?

- What arrows should I get to start off with to practice at both a range and in the woods with a target.

- Any accessories I should get right away, or just get the bow arrows and target and fly at 'er?

Thanks for taking the time to answer. My goal is to go out next year for archery season. I do not have the cash to go compound right now and may well in the future. I think the recurve will be a fun skill to learn and look forward to getting out an extra month next year even if it is improbable that I will get close enough to comfortably attempt to harvest a deer.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:02 PM
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Glove or tab ( I use a Damascus three fingered glove)
Quiver , brace height tool, tgatviscabout it.
Aluminum is nice because you can change heads easily , field points, judo heads fir outside , broadheads etc .
That being said I still enjoy wood shafts and use hot melt glue on them fir fastening the heads .
Best advice I can give is to get with a mentor that knows how to shoot traditional archery and have fun!
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:05 PM
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If you live in Calgary I can meet up with you and help out. Check out the Alberta traditional bow hunters association, we have a website and a group on “face slap”
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:19 PM
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Start with low draw weight to develop good form and shooting habits. 45 lbs or lighter would be reasonable for most.

Inexpensive 500 spine carbon arrows will suit well to start off. Fletch with feathers of course.

All you need to start shooting is an arm guard, glove, bow and arrows.

Traditional shooting is a super fun sport regardless of your skill level.

It does take a massive amount of shooting and practice to become proficient enough for hunting but incredibly gratifying once you get your mojo.

Good luck
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:26 PM
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Thanks for all the input so far. Pretty excited to try this out, even if it is a long road. I figure that I can always bring it with me when I go out to crown land for scouting or shooting to practice and I have an archery range 10 minutes from my place.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:27 PM
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If you live in Calgary I can meet up with you and help out. Check out the Alberta traditional bow hunters association, we have a website and a group on “face slap”
I will fire you a PM!
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:23 AM
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I've been shooting for a handful of years and just found this video recently. It would bhave saved me alot of headache and time if I'd only know about it sooner. I've heard the same thing from people who've been shooting there whole lives aswell. It covers everything!

https://youtu.be/1E1vKkSSoNs
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:12 AM
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Glove or tab ( I use a Damascus three fingered glove)
Quiver , brace height tool, tgatviscabout it.
Aluminum is nice because you can change heads easily , field points, judo heads fir outside , broadheads etc .
That being said I still enjoy wood shafts and use hot melt glue on them fir fastening the heads .
Best advice I can give is to get with a mentor that knows how to shoot traditional archery and have fun!
Cat
The part about finding a mentor who knows how to shoot traditional is key.
One of my sons has always wanted to shoot recurve (no accessory sight)...he is 15 and at the moment has an OMP Mountain hunter but is saving for a custom English longbow.
For the last few years he's had pointer from a few locals. Even the guys at Jimbows Edmonton (the absolute best dealer in Alberta in my mind) gave him some pointers.
Than we met up with a traditional 'expert'...placed 2nd in the Canada Cup traditional division a few years back.
Turns out most of what my son had been taught, aimed at compound bows was just flat out wrong. Stance, anchor points...pretty much everthing is different.
Within a couple of months he went from accuracy of minute of small deer 30-40 yards to minute of small bunny at the same distance.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:57 AM
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I've been shooting for a handful of years and just found this video recently. It would bhave saved me alot of headache and time if I'd only know about it sooner. I've heard the same thing from people who've been shooting there whole lives aswell. It covers everything!

https://youtu.be/1E1vKkSSoNs
That video is a labour of love, thanks!
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:50 PM
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The part about finding a mentor who knows how to shoot traditional is key.
One of my sons has always wanted to shoot recurve (no accessory sight)...he is 15 and at the moment has an OMP Mountain hunter but is saving for a custom English longbow.
For the last few years he's had pointer from a few locals. Even the guys at Jimbows Edmonton (the absolute best dealer in Alberta in my mind) gave him some pointers.
Than we met up with a traditional 'expert'...placed 2nd in the Canada Cup traditional division a few years back.
Turns out most of what my son had been taught, aimed at compound bows was just flat out wrong. Stance, anchor points...pretty much everthing is different.
Within a couple of months he went from accuracy of minute of small deer 30-40 yards to minute of small bunny at the same distance.
Good for me to know that I should be seeking out advice from traditional archers. I am hoping that I can connect with folks at the range close to my house.
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:59 PM
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Gotta appreciate that video, I have an old recurve and have thought about trying it out, now maybe I will try some targets and see what it does.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:54 PM
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I never liked shooting three fingers under or string walking nor using a tab instead of a glove like in the video but o know archers who swear by all of the above .
I have tried and shot the above styles for target shooting but always went back to the traditional style of shooting that Bear, Asbell, Hill, Jones, Fergusson and others use .
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:28 PM
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Hey folks,

Thanks for all the feedback.

Just an update: I went to the local range and shot a 25lbs and a 40lbs bow. I then bought a 25lbs bow with 6 carbon arrows, a stringing tool, and an arm gaurd off Kijiji for a good deal.

Will practice with this bow and also get a 45lbs bow in the near future to work up to. If I need a step in between I will get some 35lbs limbs.

Now I just need to practice and hope to hook up with some experienced guys after rifle season is done!

Matt
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:47 PM
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I never liked shooting three fingers under or string walking nor using a tab instead of a glove like in the video but o know archers who swear by all of the above .
I have tried and shot the above styles for target shooting but always went back to the traditional style of shooting that Bear, Asbell, Hill, Jones, Fergusson and others use .
Cat
I agree. I still shoot with a glove. I tried numerous tabs but couldn't get used to them.
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Old 11-22-2018, 12:02 PM
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Tom Clum Sr. is well known in the trad community and should be having video lessons coming out soon. checkout rms gear on Instagram they had a post about it a few weeks ago.
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Old 11-22-2018, 12:24 PM
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Tom Clum Sr. is well known in the trad community and should be having video lessons coming out soon. checkout rms gear on Instagram they had a post about it a few weeks ago.
Will check that out, thanks!
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Old 12-11-2018, 04:16 PM
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Just thought I would drop a quick update.

Have watched "The Push" video a couple times now and have been listening to their podcast which is equally well produced.

Made myself a leather tab and it seems to be working really well and have almost finished a leather arm guard as the one that came with my bow is kid sized.

Tried string walking... but this is impractical with a 25lbs. bow at 20yards, so I am going instinctive now. A 45lbs. bow may be in my near future and I will revisit the string walking again.

Set up a target in my garage that is pretty close, but I have realized I need to shoot some every day if I am going to go up in weight. Drywall already full of holes around target.

Have nockset pliers, square, and nock points on order so I can mess with stuff.

Still need to follow up connecting with some experienced archers once Christmas crazy is over.

Thanks all,

Matt
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:17 PM
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I’m still available....after christmas
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:13 PM
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I’m still available....after christmas
Thanks man, will be contacting you for sure.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:00 AM
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I started and continue shooting with a tab. I find gloves clumsy. I can flip the tab backward while roving or sitting and a quick flip and it's in place. The tabs I love have Calf fur on the string side and a rubber separator.
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