Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-20-2015, 09:23 AM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default ... maybe, the Eastern Canadian Voter is not as schupid as you think ?

who better to set up new wealth transfer mechanisms from west - east than another Trudeau ...

maybe in the backrooms this has been in the cards all along ?

eh ?


TBD


PS ... the perfect storm is brewing for Alberta.

... an energy hostile fed gov't with Notley and 'crew to defend us

Last edited by TBD; 10-20-2015 at 09:34 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-20-2015, 10:04 AM
ESOXangler's Avatar
ESOXangler ESOXangler is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,590
Default

Honestly what's going to happen is the massive deficit that will be created building hospitals and expressways in eastern Canada will drive our dollar down. This will cause our manufacturing centres in southern Ontario/ Quebec to become "economical." This will provide more 50-60g a year jobs doing menial things like installing rear view mirrors. Out here we will be just like in the 1990's only homes cost 3 times that now!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-20-2015, 10:11 AM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default oh - I agree Trudeau will drive the dollar down ...

liberals luv a $0.60 dollar as it helps make their union buddies in ON / QC manufacturing competitive.

( ... to bad for the innovators who import into this country, I thought he wanted to add value here in Canada - ah no that was Mulcair )

This doesn't have to be done by piling on debt, thanks to our central bank BOC an interest rate policy / setting will do the trick - the rest of our banking community must fall in line.

Eastern Canadian voters have been salivating for a while now RE the West's wealth !


TBD


PS ... interesting times ahead boys, think about how you can firewall the business and adjust cost of living for some tougher days coming !

... maybe a good time to tool up, instead of showing profit and look at reducing yours and the misses personal incomes to get in on the free stuff he'll be doling out ?

... get ready for a Canada Health ACT "polluter pays" style mechanism to govern carbon emitting industries (except ON auto manufacturing and QC electrical gen - those will be exempt)

Last edited by TBD; 10-20-2015 at 10:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-20-2015, 10:17 AM
Okotokian's Avatar
Okotokian Okotokian is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
Posts: 26,739
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBD View Post
This doesn't have to be done by piling on debt, thanks to our central bank BOC a low interest rate policy / setting will do the trick - our banking community must fall in line.
The current BOC overnight rate is half a percent. That's not a low interest policy? About the only thing more they could do is pay interest to those that borrow money. But I agree there are other things they could do to stimulate the economy.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-20-2015, 10:23 AM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default yes - they could ...

charge interest on people's savings ?

Oka - what's you point ?



PS ... back to some suggestions on how to mitigate the coming liberal / NDP money grab.

if you run your own business, definitely reduce personal incomes to bare bones cost of living

if you need a cash top up - take out as S/H loan

Do we have any resident tax experts that can chime in here, anyways talk to your acct, more than one side can play this game !




.

Last edited by TBD; 10-20-2015 at 10:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-20-2015, 11:20 AM
Selkirk's Avatar
Selkirk Selkirk is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the shadow of the Valhalla Mountains, BC .
Posts: 9,179
Arrow Some seem to not agree ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBD View Post

oh - I agree Trudeau will drive the dollar down . . .

Both the Canadian dollar and stock market are 'up' today ... https://www.td.com/ca/markets-resear...kets/index.jsp

Go figure


Mac
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-20-2015, 11:22 AM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default that my friend is called ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
Both the Canadian dollar and stock market are 'up' today ... https://www.td.com/ca/markets-resear...kets/index.jsp

... the dead cat bounce



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_bounce
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-20-2015, 11:23 AM
hillbillyreefer's Avatar
hillbillyreefer hillbillyreefer is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,674
Default

Correcting for the NDP uncertainty
__________________
Upset a Lefty, Fly a Drone!

"I find it interesting that some folk will pay to use a range, use a golf course, use a garage bay but think landowners should have to give permission for free. Do these same people think hookers should be treated like landowners?" pitw
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-20-2015, 11:38 AM
Selkirk's Avatar
Selkirk Selkirk is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the shadow of the Valhalla Mountains, BC .
Posts: 9,179
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer View Post

Correcting for the NDP uncertainty

More likely ^


Mac
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-20-2015, 01:31 PM
rembo rembo is online now
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Posts: 1,318
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBD View Post
charge interest on people's savings ?

Oka - what's you point ?



PS ... back to some suggestions on how to mitigate the coming liberal / NDP money grab.

if you run your own business, definitely reduce personal incomes to bare bones cost of living

if you need a cash top up - take out as S/H loan

Do we have any resident tax experts that can chime in here, anyways talk to your acct, more than one side can play this game !

.
You can only withdraw money out of your SH loan if you have a balance there. You can take dividends which are taxed differently,,....assuming you have the profits to take out in the first place.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-20-2015, 01:33 PM
Redfrog's Avatar
Redfrog Redfrog is offline
Gone Hunting
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Between Bodo and a hard place
Posts: 20,168
Default

Here's the mentality that got the libs elected.

From a site in Windsor On. that went full NDP.

"Windsor got the MPs that they voted for... totally silent backbenchers. NO Liberal money will be coming our way down here.... DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!!"
__________________
I'm not lying!!! You are just experiencing it differently.


It isn't a question of who will allow me, but who will stop me.. Ayn Rand
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-20-2015, 01:40 PM
Opa Opa is offline
Gone Hunting
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: 503
Posts: 979
Default

I would think that our TFSA's will take a "turdo lickin'", in that he will glomb onto the proceeds that we have made by wise investments. As he said glibly "qeebec" is once again running the country. Needless to say that all of his panderings have to be paid off somehow, and what better source!!! More Albertans have TFSA per capita than anywhere else in Canada. jr. will rape us, as did his "father?"
__________________
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-20-2015, 02:04 PM
pseelk's Avatar
pseelk pseelk is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 2,680
Default

Pretty sad when naieve voters trade an economist for a drama teacher for Prime minister.Especially when Harper has proven he knows how to manage the economy while not running a deficit and still keeping taxes the lowest scince the 1950's.Guess we'll soon kiss that goodbye as well.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-20-2015, 02:36 PM
Wild&Free Wild&Free is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 6,928
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pseelk View Post
Pretty sad when naieve voters trade an economist for a drama teacher for Prime minister.Especially when Harper has proven he knows how to manage the economy while not running a deficit and still keeping taxes the lowest scince the 1950's.Guess we'll soon kiss that goodbye as well.
where have you been? The only surplus's he ran with were leftovers from the Liberals.
__________________
Respond, not react. - Saskatchewan proverb

We learn from history that we do not learn from history. - Hegel

Your obligation to fight has not been relieved because the battle is fierce and difficult. Ben Shapiro
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-20-2015, 03:14 PM
pseelk's Avatar
pseelk pseelk is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 2,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild&Free View Post
where have you been? The only surplus's he ran with were leftovers from the Liberals.
Where were You?Who forced him to run the deficit when things went south in 08?And the budget was balanced when he left in spite of NDP and Libs.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-20-2015, 03:22 PM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default exactly ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by pseelk View Post
Where were You?Who forced him to run the deficit when things went south in 08?And the budget was balanced when he left in spite of NDP and Libs.
canada's left parties teamed up against him with their coalition threat, he was forced into deficit spending to appease the eastern gov't / union class.

Why do people not remember this ?

Sadly in today's headline grabbing world the media is more powerful than allot give them credit ...

... and we missed our chance to muzzle the CBC with Harper, should have done it right out of the gates with his first majority - pay attention to how justin treats them - the CBC (they've been giddy over there all day) 'betcha Hubert gets that new funding model he's been whining about.


and after their cashed up they'll begin a professional biography series dedicated to cleaning up / remaking Mag's image and something new about PET and how he was the countries greatest leader - blah blah blah ...

... and we'll be paying for it !


Last edited by TBD; 10-20-2015 at 03:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-20-2015, 03:28 PM
pseelk's Avatar
pseelk pseelk is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 2,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBD View Post
canada's left parties teamed up against him with their coalition threat, he was forced into deficit spending to appease the eastern gov't / union class.

Why do people not remember this ?

Sadly in today's headline grabbing world the media is more powerful than allot give them credit ...

... and we missed our chance to muzzle the CBC with Harper, should have done it right out of the gates with his first majority - pay attention to how justin treats them - the CBC (they've been giddy over there all day) 'betcha Hubert gets that new funding model he's been whining about.


and after their cashed up they'll begin a professional biography series dedicated to cleaning up / remaking Mag's image and something new about PET and how he was the countries greats leader - blah blah blah ...

... and we'll be paying for it !
Exactly,But what can we expect from people who would rather have a drama teacher run thier country rather than a trained economist.We will be the laughing stock of the world.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-20-2015, 03:29 PM
TBD TBD is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: calgary, Alberta
Posts: 1,881
Default rembo ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by rembo View Post
You can only withdraw money out of your SH loan if you have a balance there. You can take dividends which are taxed differently,,....assuming you have the profits to take out in the first place.
As a shareholder of a corporation I can loan money from the business anytime I want - just right yourself a cheque and credit the SH loan account. Done !
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-20-2015, 03:36 PM
pseelk's Avatar
pseelk pseelk is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 2,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TBD View Post
As a shareholder of a corporation I can loan money from the business anytime I want - just right yourself a cheque and credit the SH loan account. Done !
You're right.When I had my buisness I did this as well.Any accountant worth his salt also knows this can be done legally.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-21-2015, 03:54 PM
novatradesmen novatradesmen is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Crowsnest Pass
Posts: 95
Default

this was posted by Brett Wilson:

"MY POLITICAL OBSERVATIONS AND RANT

1) I admire ‪#‎JustinTrudeau‬ for his observation that in Canada - regardless of our political allegiances (or frankly race or religion, etc) we are in fact ‪#‎NEIGHBOURS‬ - NOT ‪#‎ENEMIES‬.

2) for my friends in panic mode in Calgary - fearful of the future of the oilpatch - lets remember that the last federal PC government killed the ‪#‎RoyaltyTrust‬ structure - which was an incredible source of capital for the oilpatch - especially missed in an environment of low oil/natgas prices. It was a provincial PC party that completely screwed the oilpatch under ‪#‎Stelmach‬'s ill-conceived and poorly executed royalty review less than a decade ago (which ended up costing the oilpatch BILLIONS and had to be reversed). Selective memory failure gets us nowhere. I am cautiously hopeful that the Liberals will LISTEN - something that hasn't been a strong suit of prior governments.

3) lets celebrate that we do indeed have 4 AB Liberals with seats in Ottawa - lets hope for cabinet posts for one or more. Key voices.

4) I am unafraid of the current Liberal plan to INVEST in infrastructure - for facilities/roads/bridges etc - as I see value in jobs and improving our aging infrastructure - especially with low interest rates.

5) I mostly appreciate that we do not have a minority government - allowing us to live in a country where governing decisions will indeed be made. I will not like every decision - I never do under ANY government at any level. BUT I am not planning on leaving Canada - one of the greatest countries on earth. PERIOD."
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.