How many cup and core Luddites are still out there?

[sns2]

Am taking delivery of a new rifle today and don't have time for multiple trips to the range for load development, so I told Prophet River to throw in a couple boxes of old school Winchester 180 grain Powerpoint for a 300 Win Mag. That's what I'm going with and the boy is going with Sierra Matchkings. I sure hope we don't encounter the new variety deer (or possibly elk) that have grown kevlar shields. Here's to hoping

Curious as to how many other people are still using old school cup and cores.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I use that very bullet in a Heym 300 Win Mag and it's deadly accurate. Drops moose and deer just fine.



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[catnthehat]

I shoot cup and core bullets in my hunting rifle , anywhere from 150 to 215 grains.
Some of those bullets are over 40 years old and they work just dandy .
This year I worked up a load using 150 grain TSX's and they work fine as well
Cat

[elkhunter11]

I shoot cup and core bullets in most of my rifles, the exception being my 7mmstw, because I prefer monometal bullets for big game when driven at the higher velocities. I have actually switched from the Matchking to the new Tipped version, and am very pleased with the accuracy in my 223. The only issue can be that it is longer, which can be an issue in short magazines.

[M70]

Sierra Game Kings have killed most of my deer but the TSX is becoming my go to bullet the last couple of years. I have lots of green boxes left so I'll be shooting the Sierra for a while yet.

[Bushleague]

I`ve played around with a few different types of bullets and I still prefer Corelokts to anything else. In the lighter weights they are almost perfect for deer, in heavyer weights I`ve had very consistent performance on moose, even with shoulder hits the recovered bullets still look pretty good. As long as you`re not opposed to shooting a heavy bullet they are all you really need.

[hawk-i]

I mostly use cup and core bullets, they kill animals just fine.

[Echo-Gecko]

Interlocks, they work.

[Xbolt7mm]

Cup and core here too

[Ranger CS]

There is certainly nothing wrong with cup and core bullets, but there is better out there. The following article is one of the best controlled experimental comparisons of hunting bullets I have seen. We have been shooting nothing but Barnes out of all of our hunting rifles for the last several years and have found these bullets to be as good as these text results show. More importantly, these bullets shoot extremely well out of every rifle we shoot them out of.
I would like to point out the bullets used in this test were TTSX. From my experience the TSX do not perform as reliably. I guess that is why Barnes upgraded to TTSX.


Ballistics Test: The Best Big Game Bullets - RifleShooter


http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammo/...st-300-win-mag...

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by M70

Sierra Game Kings have killed most of my deer but the TSX is becoming my go to bullet the last couple of years. I have lots of green boxes left so I'll be shooting the Sierra for a while yet.

I use Sierra's , Speers,and C.I.L's.
I have used lots of Barnes in the past and am using them this year but they have not proven to kill any better than anything else I ever shot with cup and cores.
I might add that I normally do not cartridges that are considered high velocity
Cat

[Dick284]

Luddite

A slang term used by puddites to attack and ostracize those who are not afraid to keep things that still work and do not need to be upgraded. A luddite is someone who encourages the use of technology and technological equipment that is still perfectly good and perfectly working, although a new model/generation/color has come out.



Careful Shane!


Yes I still use a lot of Cup&Core bullets.
I also side Partition's, bonded core, multi core, and monolithic designs as well.
In other words I use what works best in a given rifle.

[sns2]

I should add, that I have basically used Accubonds, Bergers, and Barnes over the last 10 years. None of which have killed any better than the old garden variety cup and core. Not one bit.

My Godson, who I load for, uses only Sierra 160s out of his 7 Rem Mag. Moose and elk all die very, very well. In fact, he has no desire to ever switch.

[gitrdun]

I use cup & core bullets, primarily Sierra and Hornady. I've started using a few Gerbers recently.

[Ranger CS]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

I use cup & core bullets, primarily Sierra and Hornady. I've started using a few Gerbers recently.

Gerbers, is that a Berger crossed with a Gerbil?

[Headdamage]

SGK 250gr in my 338win is my go to hunting load.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by Ranger CS

Gerbers, is that a Berger crossed with a Gerbil?

OOOPPPS! Hey I got the right letters, just in the wrong order.

[heronfish]

I loaded some 154 grainers round nose for a 7mm08.
Made the mistake of telling the wrong person, and was basically accused of animal cruelty for guaranteeing a slow painful death for the animal on the receiving end.

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[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by heronfish

I loaded some 154 grainers round nose for a 7mm08.
Made the mistake of telling the wrong person, and was basically accused of animal cruelty for guaranteeing a slow painful death for the animal on the receiving end.

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Lol, that's pretty funny, if you were to stick a plastic tip on the end and name the bullets something fear inspiring, then claim you had come up with the greatest advance in bullet performance since the copper jacket... now your back in the good graces of mainstream hunting.

[Pathfinder76]

By and large there is nothing wrong with C&C bullets. However, the chances at trophy big game can be oh so fleeting. Think, 160 WT or 180 MD going away. A big bull Elk or Moose angling steeply towards or away. I want a bullet that will hit vital organs from most angles and break big bone doing it.

[heronfish]

Originally Posted by Bushleague

Lol, that's pretty funny, if you were to stick a plastic tip on the end and name the bullets something fear inspiring, then claim you had come up with the greatest advance in bullet performance since the copper jacket... now your back in the good graces of mainstream hunting.

I thought it would be a fine combination for my wife within 200 yards. I was informed otherwise.

He recommended a 7mmstw.

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[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by chuck

By and large there is nothing wrong with C&C bullets. However, the chances at trophy big game can be oh so fleeting. Think, 160 WT or 180 MD going away. A big bull Elk or Moose angling steeply towards or away. I want a bullet that will hit vital organs from most angles and break big bone doing it.

I can understand this point of view. But for the sake of accuracy I feel compelled to state that I have run the right cup and core bullets through a big deer end to end on multiple occasions. With moose and elk, as long as I can take the shoulder if I need to I am happy, once again I have done this several times with the right cup and core bullets and have never had an issue.

A 150 grain coreloct out of my .270 will break both shoulders on a moose if needed, ditto with a 180 out of my .308... I`m pretty comfortable with that level of performance.

[Pathfinder76]

That is good performance.

[Pathfinder76]

I hunt in very active Grizzly country. That is definitely a consideration.

[Puma]

Mostly cup & core, usually large slow round nose bullets too !

If it aint broke .....

[Stricks]

Originally Posted by chuck

By and large there is nothing wrong with C&C bullets. However, the chances at trophy big game can be oh so fleeting. Think, 160 WT or 180 MD going away. A big bull Elk or Moose angling steeply towards or away. I want a bullet that will hit vital organs from most angles and break big bone doing it.

I would have poo-pooed the he!! outta that argument early on...but I have hunted mature whitetails long enough, and have had enough experiences to know that is spot on...