300 win mag is the best cartridge ever invented

[bb356]

For some reason when I hear 300 I think SAVAGE ................... darn must be gettin old !!!

[twytter]

lol well i shoot with a 300WIN MAG browning semi auto armor coating mossy oak and love it, everytime i shoot something with it cause it aint going nowhere doesnt matter if its at 100yard or 400 yard and i am sure i can out shoot ya or has good with it

[rembo]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Yip, a gentleman once told me (Coffee Cup Don for those of you that were privileged to know him), that 7 Rem Mag is straight and level for 300 yards...and then it starts to rise a bit......

Yeah,..I remember Don, nice old fellow, used to see him at the range shooting his M70 Fwt 270 loaded with 4831 from an 50lb keg he bought in the 50's......and his 700 in 243,...he sold me the Mountain Rifle barrel of of it after he had a standard weight barrel swapped in,....and shooting his Savage over & under 20G/30-30 with cast bullets, in the 30-30 barrel....

He must have been referring to the hot 140 gr loads in the 7 Mag........I hear they rise after 300 yards.....

Originally Posted by rembo

Get yourself a 7mm Rem Mag and load 175's to 3000.......it.ll make you feel all dressed up again.

I've got one but it's still not a .30 cal...lol

[rembo]

Actually, you don't need a 175 to come really close to the 300 Winnny with a 180.......an elk at any sane range will never know the difference....118 ft/lbs at 400 yards and 153 ft/lbs at 500 yards aint much....and trajectory is a non issue.

data from Hornady's website.

7mm Rem Mag 162 gr SST® Superformance®
Ballistics Downloads
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
3030/3302 2855/2933 2688/2598 2525/2295 2370/2020 2219/1772
Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
-1.50 1.40 0.00 -6.20 -17.90 -35.70


300 Win Mag 180 GR InterBond® Superformance®
Ballistics

Test Barrel (24") Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
3130/3917 2927/3424 2732/2983 2546/2589 2366/2238 2195/1925
Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
-1.50 1.30 0.00 -5.90 -17.30 -34.80

LOL...it's still not a .30 cal. I just feel naked without one despite having several cartridges that will kill an elk. Trajectory is pretty much a non issue with most cartridges these days with modern scopes with turrets or ballistic reticles. I've always had one and will undoubtedly get another one for no particular reason than I don't have one...lol It's a great cartridge.

[rembo]

Actually I have had a 300 Win since 1992,.....I also have a 308 Norma and a couple 7mm Rem Mags,....they all work.
No magic in a 300 Win though...just a 30-06 on steroids......and, "every 30 cal magnum is a 308 at some range"

Originally Posted by rembo

Actually I have had a 300 Win since 1992,.....I also have a 308 Norma and a couple 7mm Rem Mags,....they all work.
No magic in a 300 Win though...just a 30-06 on steroids......and, "every 30 cal magnum is a 308 at some range"

Really no magic in any cartridge but some are a bit more versatile than others.

[rembo]

but there's magic in the 280 Ackley,..or so I'm told.....

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by rembo

but there's magic in the 280 Ackley,..or so I'm told.....

"The 6.5X55 preforms way outside its perimeters and the 140 grain bullet exceeds all expectations of killing power."
Just what the H-double hockey sticks does that mean , anyway??
Crap, I hear it all the time in gun magazines but could never understand it!
Shoot the danged gun accurately and it'll kill well.
Shoot it lousy and .......
Cat

[martinbns]

I have had two 300 winmags over the years and loved them both.

I've killed lots of critters of a wide variety of sizes at a wide variety of ranges with no muss and fuss. When I am shooting regularly recoil isn't an issue in a gun that weighs 8.5 pounds all-in, I've been able to get them both to shoot fairly easily.

It's a great all-rounder.

[H380]

I recently bought a Tikka T3 lite in 300 and love it .. recoil is not as heavy as I was told it would be , but I installed the limbsaver anyway and it is very enjoyable to shoot .. What impresses me with the 300's is the wide variety of load options and accuracy I can get out of a larger caliber . 1 " groups at 100 yds are consistent with both 150 and 180 gr . Hornadys... only problem I have is staying on target after shot and seeing impact .. so far every thing is piled up right where I shot at it so I guess it's not too serious .Looking forward to this fall .

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by bb356

For some reason when I hear 300 I think SAVAGE ................... darn must be gettin old !!!

Yip you must be gettin old if your thinkin 300 Savage, but nothin wrong with that, it's a classy cartridge.

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by rembo

but there's magic in the 280 Ackley,..or so I'm told.....

Nuttin wrong with 280 AI. The one you chambred for me does quite nicely. Kinda light (Rem Mtn Rifle), and bucks a bit, but I can carry it all day and don't even know it's there. I've shot a cpl of decent bucks with it and they figured they had been hit with a 300 win so they just tipped over and died.

It seems to like 139 Hornady's. A little light for my way of thinkin, but the velocity squared guys would like that and they shoot well and kill stuff....so

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

"The 6.5X55 preforms way outside its perimeters and the 140 grain bullet exceeds all expectations of killing power."
Just what the H-double hockey sticks does that mean , anyway??
Crap, I hear it all the time in gun magazines but could never understand it!
Shoot the danged gun accurately and it'll kill well.
Shoot it lousy and .......
Cat

You been drinkin again, Cat???? 'course you have to shoot it well, what else would you do???

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

You been drinkin again, Cat???? 'course you have to shoot it well, what else would you do???

Well, beleve it or not, some guys shoot a magnum because that way they don't have to make a lousy shot!!

Cat

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Well, beleve it or not, some guys shoot a magnum because that way they don't have to make a lousy shot!!

Cat

Tis true. but I think you meant to say then they don't have to make a good shot.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Tis true. but I think you meant to say then they don't have to make a good shot.

\
Huh? yeah, that's what i meant! Oh, yeah, that - 'scuse me , for a sec, I dropped a joint on the floor.....

Cat

[1100winger]

was my first big game rifle purchased; still have it - sort of, its been rebarrelled restocked but is still a 300 wm. Bought a 6.5 swede too - both calibers have been in the safe every since; the swedes have come and gone in various forms (always had at least one of them) but the 300 wm is a keeper - it has dropped more game than all my other pop guns combined, a few varmints as well. It's not just an 06 on steroids - its much better than that.

[leo]

My go to guns have always been 300 mags of one persuasion or other. I am on my 4th 300 weatherby (none on a mark v action), went through a 308 norma, 2-300 win mags. My favorite now is a sako 300wsm that shoots itty bitty groups. The recoil is more noticable now than it was 25 years ago, but still managable. I will always have a 300 in the cabinet, or perhaps 5..lol

[Rhino81]

300 win is alright, however the 300 weatherby mag is by far the best all round cartridge for big game in north America. That's my opinion anyhow. Correct me if I wrong? I have owned two vanguards and couldn't miss. Just bought a mark v accumark. Can't wait to take down the big guys this year with it.

[rembo]

I've chambered quite a few 280AI's....must be at least 8 or 10...at least two were for myself but I can't seem to hang on to them,...have two more in the works,...both with #2 stainless Shilens, one on a lefty 700 for my oldest son, have a McMillan Hunters Edge for it, and one for me on a RH 700 in an Edge in the Rem Mountain Rifle pattern......they are gonna be sweet. Both are on late 70's actions. I didn't need one but I wanted to build my son a nice lightweight so I figured I'd twist one up for myself while I was at it.

Glad you like yours Abe,....it's a magic chambering,...you take a 7Mag and cut the powder capacity by 8 or 10 grains and it shoots faster,..how the he11 does that work?..yeah right.


......and 139's aren't light,...I shoot 140's in my 7 Mag at 3300....they will work.

Originally Posted by ACKLEY ABE

Nuttin wrong with 280 AI. The one you chambred for me does quite nicely. Kinda light (Rem Mtn Rifle), and bucks a bit, but I can carry it all day and don't even know it's there. I've shot a cpl of decent bucks with it and they figured they had been hit with a 300 win so they just tipped over and died.

It seems to like 139 Hornady's. A little light for my way of thinkin, but the velocity squared guys would like that and they shoot well and kill stuff....so

[rugatika]

So looking at some ballistic tables from Federal re: 300wm vs 300wsm both shooting a 180gr Nosler partition, the 300wm starts out at 2960fps and the 300wsm starts out at 2980fps...almost identical...yet after 500yds the 300wm is travelling at 1799fps, while the 300wsm is still trucking along at 2063fps?? What gives? How can the same bullet starting out at the same speed (essentially) have almost 300fps difference in speed after 500yards???

Must be something wrong with Federal's charts as they show even the "lowly" 30/06 outperforming the 300wm with a 180gr partition.

For the 180gr accubond they show 300wsm and 300wm exactly the same...ergo the 300wsm is the best cartridge ever. (shorter action and barrel...same performance).

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by rugatika

So looking at some ballistic tables from Federal re: 300wm vs 300wsm both shooting a 180gr Nosler partition, the 300wm starts out at 2960fps and the 300wsm starts out at 2980fps...almost identical...yet after 500yds the 300wm is travelling at 1799fps, while the 300wsm is still trucking along at 2063fps?? What gives? How can the same bullet starting out at the same speed (essentially) have almost 300fps difference in speed after 500yards???

Must be something wrong with Federal's charts as they show even the "lowly" 30/06 outperforming the 300wm with a 180gr partition.

For the 180gr accubond they show 300wsm and 300wm exactly the same...ergo the 300wsm is the best cartridge ever. (shorter action and barrel...same performance).

Ever chrono a 300 WSM? ...and yes obviously the charts are fubared.

[weedcatcher]

About a week ago I had my 300 WSM in an X-bolt carbon Fiber over the chrony. It measured 3060 fps with 180 gr Accubonds. It measured 3025 with Partitions. And it measured 3180 with 168 gr barnes ttsx. All handloads.

The partitions shot 1.5 MOA, but the others shot less than an inch @ 100 yards.

Just for the fun of mentioning... I also shoot a couple of 308 Norma Mags. I have 180 gr Hornady's loaded for both of those. The one shoots 1.25 to 1.5 MOA at 3150 fps and the other shoots 0.9 MOA at 3090 fps.

I don't own a 300 win mag, but really, what would I be gaining by getting one?
Nothing. I think I have the 300 magnum arena covered.

[ACKLEY ABE]

Originally Posted by weedcatcher

About a week ago I had my 300 WSM in an X-bolt carbon Fiber over the chrony. It measured 3060 fps with 180 gr Accubonds. It measured 3025 with Partitions. And it measured 3180 with 168 gr barnes ttsx. All handloads.

The partitions shot 1.5 MOA, but the others shot less than an inch @ 100 yards.

Just for the fun of mentioning... I also shoot a couple of 308 Norma Mags. I have 180 gr Hornady's loaded for both of those. The one shoots 1.25 to 1.5 MOA at 3150 fps and the other shoots 0.9 MOA at 3090 fps.

I don't own a 300 win mag, but really, what would I be gaining by getting one?
Nothing. I think I have the 300 magnum arena covered.

Nothing...same as me buying a 300WSM. I wouldn't gain a thing, except maybe some feed issues.

[Pioneer2]

Copied /stolen from the .308NM idea.................like Remington's theft of the 7 Mashburn magnum and the Ultra-mag series 1st made by Imperial...........unique just like everyone else................Harold

[martinbns]

It's a great all-rounder if you want something that has a little more oomph at longer ranges than the 30-06. Recoil is manageable, to me it's just about perfect for a one gun hunter who can shoot.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by martinbns

It's a great all-rounder if you want something that has a little more oomph at longer ranges than the 30-06. Recoil is manageable, to me it's just about perfect for a one gun hunter who can shoot.

You took yours to SA, didn't you ,Martin?
Cat

[ShawnM]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Ya, pretty hard to beat the 300WM for versatility but I'm starting to warm up to the 338WM a bit more. This is the first time in my life I've been without a 300WM...I feel a bit naked.

Now there's an image I didn't need bouncing around my brain... And just when I finally paid off my therapy...