Is the .270 the best? I think so.

[elkhunter11]

It's not Chuck Norris approved

Who cares what a 70 year old has been approves?

Now if a real champion like Cain Velasquez approves it,that would be more impressive.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by chuck

What others have you tried to come to this conclusion?

Do you have a suggestion as to an alternative that would make a deer "deader"?

[bb356]

i love this post !!!

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Do you have a suggestion as to an alternative that would make a deer "deader"?

That's exactly the point.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by Traps

And here I thought the 7mm-08 was the best, back to the drawing board!

My 7-08 was the best this year. My .270WSM kicked butt last year. I'll keep them both. But all in all, doesn't it suck that we have so many cartridge selections that will do equally well in so many different situations. Just think of the lesser stress that shooter had back in 1910? especially if the poor buggers didn't have reloading options.

[justinO]

He never said anything about being more deader. Just that different hunting situations cater better to different calibers and bullet weights. How can you argue that statement. If you are hunting thick thick bush hunting moose do you use the same gun as if you are hunting pronghorns in the wide open assuming you can pick any gun and bullet in the world for each hunt?

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by justinO

He never said anything about being more deader. Just that different hunting situations cater better to different calibers and bullet weights. How can you argue that statement. If you are hunting thick thick bush hunting moose do you use the same gun as if you are hunting pronghorns in the wide open assuming you can pick any gun and bullet in the world for each hunt?

That would be a silly comparison. When I got drawn for an antelope, I chose the .270WSM, the hot load 7-08 would have been a good choice as well. But hunting thick bush moose, I'll pack the .444. Of course you need to make the right choices. But then again, I'd take a 30-06 on either one of those two hunts, but with a different load.

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by chuck

What others have you tried to come to this conclusion?

Just the ones stated in my first post. I know there is alot of ones I haven't tried, but out of those and the cals some of the huntng boys I've been with the 270wsm is my favorite.

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Nuff Said!

This is awesome , I think I might have to steal it and make it my avitar.

[7mmremmag]

Originally Posted by 338Bluff

Oh I dunno. Don't have a 270. If I ever needed a new Varmint gun I might consider one....

Hahaha yes I agree

[redranger15]

I hunt clear cuts, fields and an opening in a solid 1/4 section of bush that's 150x250 yards. So the 270 wsm is perfect for me out here. So far out of the new gun I've only shot the 110 gr ttsx for a couple caribou and a deer and it worked great. In my old 270 win I was shooting a 140 gr hornady btsp and it did a great job on a lot of game. I went to the 7mmrm shooting 150gr sirocco's and it did it's job on a few deer and a elk. Not any deader then with the .270. I then went to the .270 wsm and think that's it, perfect for me and were and what I hunt.

Originally Posted by redranger15

This is awesome , I think I might have to steal it and make it my avitar.

Consider it yours...just don't tell rockymtnx that I'm cutting in on his avatar business

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by redranger15

I hunt clear cuts, fields and an opening in a solid 1/4 section of bush that's 150x250 yards. So the 270 wsm is perfect for me out here. So far out of the new gun I've only shot the 110 gr ttsx for a couple caribou and a deer and it worked great. In my old 270 win I was shooting a 140 gr hornady btsp and it did a great job on a lot of game. I went to the 7mmrm shooting 150gr sirocco's and it did it's job on a few deer and a elk. Not any deader then with the .270. I then went to the .270 wsm and think that's it, perfect for me and were and what I hunt.

So to reinforce my point (and I'm not arguing with you Red) all the guns you mention killed game as dead as a doornail. Could we argue that one did a better job than the other?

My point is that arguing about ballistic minutae (sp?) is pointless. In the real world most of the calibers we have discussed do the job just fine. You can argue .270 vs .280, but with a live animal can you say it really makes an ounce of "real world" difference? Yeah, I get it that on a buffalo .243 vs 300WM makes a difference, but....

[300-510]

I much prefer 30 cals. my self.Just as flat shooting and smack alot harder.

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

So to reinforce my point (and I'm not arguing with you Red) all the guns you mention killed game as dead as a doornail. Could we argue that one did a better job than the other?

The 270wsm did of coarse. Now that it's Chuck Norris certified they will be even deader..

JK, I know dead is dead, but the 270 is my favorite.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by redranger15

The 270wsm did of coarse. Now that it's Chuck Norris certified they will be even deader..

JK, I know dead is dead, but the 270 is my favorite.

Damn. I didn't realize Chuck had weighed in. I stand corrected. LOL

For sale: one .270win Browning A-Bolt.

[bb356]

Originally Posted by okotokian

damn. I didn't realize chuck had weighed in. I stand corrected. Lol

for sale: One .270win browning a-bolt.

ground chuck !!!!!!

[ecellitti]

The 270 might shoot a little flatter at ranges out to 300-400 yards and yes its bullets might expand to 30 cal but one thing you can say about the 30's is that they will never shrink to 27 cal. Bigger hole, more air in, more blood out.
I know very few people who target practice at anything further than 100 yards let alone shoot at animals further than that. Heck most dont shoot well enough to take advantage of the slight ballistic that the 270 offers.

When I bought my Win Model 70 I was torn between the 30-06 and 270 Win. I walked around the store for about 45 min before making my decision. Went with the 30-06 and have not looked back. If I cant get my 30-06 to do what I want it to do, then more than likely the 270 wont do it either.

I know the 270 is a fine cartridge, heck it should be as its an offspring of the 30-06, but to me the nestalgia that the 30-06 provides is something that the 270 just cant offer.

[Lonnie]

alot of guns are nice and graet if you have one for each type of game you hunt but when I hunt I usualy have deer tags & elk or moose & bear. so I shoot witch ever comes along with what ever is in my hand at the time so 270win excelent choice. and for this reason I shot alot of game with 250 sav. but every one tells me it is a poor choice for moose & elk but seemed to work just fine for me.

[ecellitti]

Lonnie,
If the 250 Savage works and you are confortable with then by all means use it. Heck you pobably cant tell that much differnce in damage between all the calibers that we have talked about ie 270 win, 270 WSM and 30-06. I know that I havent been able to tell the difference between, the 270, 30-06 and 300 Win mag. If you were to line up three identical deer shot in the exact same spot with those calibers I dont think that most would be able to tell either.

[catnthehat]

Any tool is only as good as the operator, and rifles are tools.
Cat

[heathlight]

Please tell me what makes a 270 win, or a 270wsm superior to say a 30-06, 280, 7mm, or a 300 for that matter? It is all in how confident you are in the rifle, and as a result where the bullet hits= shot placement. What is the difference between a 300wsm and a 270wsm, or a 7mm wsm, shooting the same grained bullet other than a slight difference in diameter, and bit more recoil. Minimal difference to say the least, and I really do not think you could tell the difference in recoil. I shoot a 300wsm and use 130gr Barnes TSX tipped bullets, with 63.5 grains of imr4064. I have taken deer and moose with it, and have not had to go looking for any of them. In fact the moose I shot, didn't move or walk an inch.
I have chronographed the 130's out of the 300wsm and they are averaging 3450fps, and grouping 1/2 to 3/4" at 100yrds. (you can not get that speed out of a 270wsm, maybe out of a 270 weatherby, hence not as flat shooting)

I personally think that all you need is a good bullet, with a weight of 130-165 grains, and you should be able to take almost anything on this continent, with the proper shot placement. The choice in selecting a calibre and cartridge is just personal taste. Whatever works!

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by heathlight

Please tell me what makes a 270 win, or a 270wsm superior to say a 30-06, 280, 7mm, or a 300 for that matter? It is all in how confident you are in the rifle, and as a result where the bullet hits= shot placement. What is the difference between a 300wsm and a 270wsm, or a 7mm wsm, shooting the same grained bullet other than a slight difference in diameter, and bit more recoil. Minimal difference to say the least, and I really do not think you could tell the difference in recoil. I shoot a 300wsm and use 130gr Barnes TSX tipped bullets, with 63.5 grains of imr4064. I have taken deer and moose with it, and have not had to go looking for any of them. In fact the moose I shot, didn't move or walk an inch.
I have chronographed the 130's out of the 300wsm and they are averaging 3450fps, and grouping 1/2 to 3/4" at 100yrds. (you can not get that speed out of a 270wsm, maybe out of a 270 weatherby, hence not as flat shooting)

I personally think that all you need is a good bullet, with a weight of 130-165 grains, and you should be able to take almost anything on this continent, with the proper shot placement. The choice in selecting a calibre and cartridge is just personal taste. Whatever works!

Actually my 110's ttsx are going over 3500 with max loads. But I'm not here to start a wee-wee fight. I think it's plenty flat. You are right about the minimal difference, but less powder, less recoil and enough jam to kill anything we have here in MB I'll take it.

30-06-old mans gun, 280- whats that? JK, 7mm can't get a short barrel and lot's of recoil, 300 way to much, over kill, way too dead. 270wsm perfect.

[elkhunter11]

7mm can't get a short barrel and lot's of recoil,

7mm-08 can get a shorter barrel,with much less recoil.It is a 7mm.

300 way to much, over kill, way too dead.

Since when is a 300 savage too much?

I prefer 6.5's in small bores and have no use for mediums. For mose big game shooting, I prefer 9.3mm or .375".

No real use for a .270 as it won't do anything a 6.5 can't.

No body (of note) uses a .270 for serious shooting, but many use the 6.5's, to and in excess of 1,000 yard shooting, target and game. The result is higher overall quality of bullet jackets. The result is better accuracy - overall.

Daryl

[220swifty]

The 6.5-06 shoots flatter, the 280 hits harder. The 270 is a bastard that was adopted by a famous writer.

Originally Posted by 220swifty

The 6.5-06 shoots flatter, the 280 hits harder. The 270 is a bastard that was adopted by a famous writer.

LMAO...now that was a classic.

[heathlight]

Originally Posted by redranger15

Actually my 110's ttsx are going over 3500 with max loads. But I'm not here to start a wee-wee fight. I think it's plenty flat. You are right about the minimal difference, but less powder, less recoil and enough jam to kill anything we have here in MB I'll take it.

30-06-old mans gun, 280- whats that? JK, 7mm can't get a short barrel and lot's of recoil, 300 way to much, over kill, way too dead. 270wsm perfect.

WHATEVER! If you want we can talk 110's - the 300wsm can do 3700fps. I am talking about a 130 grain bullet, not a 110! You might get 3200, out of a 130gr Barnes, but that's about it from a 270wsm. Lets compare apples to apples!
I am sorry, but I disagree about the 300wsm being overkill. A person does not need to use 165's or 180's for that matter, which I do think is overkill. Why do you think I prefer to shoot 130's? However I do have the option in shooting 220's...........do u?
A 300wsm can do almost everything a 270wsm can do.....just only a bit better.

[elkhunter11]

WHATEVER! If you want we can talk 110's - the 300wsm can do 3700fps. I am talking about a 130 grain bullet, not a 110! You might get 3200, out of a 130gr Barnes, but that's about it from a 270wsm.

The 130gr Barnes in .308" has a very low B.C.,and the 110gr Barnes in .277" isn't a lot better.The result is a high muzzle velocity,but both lose velocity quickly,and wind drift suffers from such a low B.C.The end result is that neither load is great for longer range shooting.

[redranger15]

I can't do 220 but I can go the other way with 85s and 95s. Just haven fun boys, not meant as a fighten thread. 270WSM Chuck Norris certified whats left to say?