Is the .270 the best? I think so.

[redranger15]

I live in Manitoba and have shot every big game animal we have with a .270. I have also hunted with a .243, 7mmrm, 300 sav, 30-06 and 300 ulta mag. Now we don't have the big bears here so out of all those cal's that I've hunted with I think the good old .270 is just perfect. Low recoil, lots of bullet selection and a flat shooter. So I think I found my last big game cal I will buy unless I move to big grizz country. So I will now preach to the boys at work that the .270 is the best round for for the praries. Yes I'm bored and want to know how many .270 shooters out there think it's the best. I actually shoot a .270 wsm. but it's still a .277 cal. No fighting guys.

Whew...I was about to get into it with you till you added the WSM part..... All is good in the world now

[benamen]

I have used a 270 Winchester for 30 years and it was my only shooter (not including my Triumph muzzleloader) until this year. Purchased a WSM for moose this year but it was a 300. I wanted to be able to push a little more lead down the barrel when you get a chance at a big one. For whitetails and mulies I still go back to the 270.

[elkhunter11]

Personally,I much prefer the 280 to the 270,especially the 280AI.It offers more bullet selection,and slightly less recoil than the 270WSM.If I am going to step up to a magnum,my favorite is still the 7mmstw,as 3500 fps with a 140gr TTSX is still hard to beat for longer range shooting on game from pronghorns to elk, without getting into a great deal more recoil.For a very mild recoiling cartridge,with fairly long barrel life,the 260 with it's selection of very high BC bullets, is a great choice.

[Mad_Mikee]

there is a limited selection of bullets available when reloading for the 270. I prefer the 30 cals and 7mm's.

[AxeMan]

I have been hunting with my 270 Win. Ruger M77 for 25 years and still do to this day. Is there a better calibre out there for my style of hunting? Probably there is, but I have not had the need to go to anything else. Dead is dead. Besides, too many memories in that old gun.

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mikee

there is a limited selection of bullets available when reloading for the 270. I prefer the 30 cals and 7mm's.

Limited selection? You need to shop somewhere else.

[redranger15]

Elk, if I was to tell the boys to go out get a 280ai or a 7stw they wouldn't have a clue as what they are. Not saying they are not fine calibres, just not very common. Everyone knows what a 270 is.

[sdeviation]

all other cals were based around the 270 ..
.277 is closer to 7mm ,than .284
lots of people start with 270 and move on ,,,just to find themselves moving back to it.
long live the 270Win Mag

[Okotokian]

I'm a .270 shooter. I won't say it's "the best" as that leads us into all manner of arcane technical arguments, but I think it's just as good as any other for real-life hunting situations in Alberta. I don't think you could ever argue "oh, bad choice".

[whitetailhntr]

Originally Posted by sdeviation

all other cals were based around the 270 ..
.277 is closer to 7mm ,than .284
lots of people start with 270 and move on ,,,just to find themselves moving back to it.
long live the 270Win Mag

Actually there is no difference between the .284 and 7mm.....its the same caliber. There also is no such thing as a .270 win mag, only the .270 winchester, .270 winchester short magnum and .270 weatherby magnum.
There are no catridges based on the .270 win. The .280 rem, .270 win and a bunch of others are derived from The 30-06...... Just sayin.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by whitetailhntr

Actually there is no difference between the .284 and 7mm.....its the same caliber. There also is no such thing as a .270 win mag, only the .270 winchester, .270 winchester short magnum and .270 weatherby magnum.
There are no catridges based on the .270 win. The .280 rem, .270 win and a bunch of others are derived from The 30-06...... Just sayin.

Gawd, don't confuse us with facts. LOL

[elkhunter11]

Elk, if I was to tell the boys to go out get a 280ai or a 7stw they wouldn't have a clue as what they are. Not saying they are not fine calibres, just not very common. Everyone knows what a 270 is.

Telling someone that you have a 270 does not tell them what cartridge you have, it could be a 270win,a 270wsm,or a 270wby,or a wildcat cartridge, so no,everybody would not know which 270 you have.As for the 280AI, and the 7mmstw,they are the same caliber,a caliber that is likely more common worldwide that the 270 family,given that there are a great many more cartridges that use .284" bullets than cartridges that use .277" bullets.

[weedcatcher]

Actually there is no difference between the .284 and 7mm.....its the same caliber.

I think what he meant is that 0.277" is equal to 7.0358mm, and .284" = 7.2136 mm, so .277 is closer to 7.0mm. I think.

I was definately confused about the .270 win mag comment as well, though, since that doesn't exist.

yes, I think for many real world hunting situations, the .270 win is exceptional. Does it do better than a .280 Rem? Not in my opinion. Does it do better than a 7mm WSM? Not in my opinion. Does it do better than a 6.5-06? Not in my opinion.

Can anyone guess which cartridges I shoot?

[sdeviation]

sorry for the confusion
back in its day 3150 fps with a 130 grain bullet was real magnum performance Winchester forgot to add it to the name ....
and thats why i call it a 270 Win Mag...lol

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Telling someone that you have a 270 does not tell them what cartridge you have, it could be a 270win,a 270wsm,or a 270wby,or a wildcat cartridge, so no,everybody would not know which 270 you have.As for the 280AI, and the 7mmstw,they are the same caliber,a caliber that is likely more common worldwide that the 270 family,given that there are a great many more cartridges that use .284" bullets than cartridges that use .277" bullets.

I think you know what I meant. I went and asked a few of the boys on the shop floor that hunt and none of them heard of a 280ai or a 7stw. That being said doesn't mean that they are not more popular in different circles just not out here in MB. When I asked them if they heard of a 270 they knew I was talking about a caliber.

[elkhunter11]

I think you know what I meant. I went and asked a few of the boys on the shop floor that hunt and none of them heard of a 280ai or a 7stw.

Most people that have a genuine interest in guns and ballistics,would recognize both cartridge designations.

That being said doesn't mean that they are not more popular in different circles just not out here in MB.

I have several friends in Manitoba,and they are very familiar with both cartridges,so it isn't a regional thing.

When I asked them if they heard of a 270 they knew I was talking about a caliber.

Caliber yes,but 270 does not always refer to 270win.The 270win,270wsm,and 270wby are all the same caliber.270winchester is a cartridge designation,it isn't a caliber,any more than the 30-06 is a caliber.

The simple truth,is that many people that are so sure that one cartridge is clearly superior to all others,haven't hunted with many cartridges.They are so loyal to one cartridge,because that is often the only cartridge that they have considerable experience with.Of course there are exceptions,but that does seem to be a very common trend.People that have used a large variety of cartridges,tend to have more than one favorite,and most would chose different cartridges for different applications.

[DAVE]

The simple truth,is that many people that are so sure that one cartridge is clearly superior to all others,haven't hunted with many cartridges.They are so loyal to one cartridge,because that is often the only cartridge that they have considerable experience with.Of course there are exceptions,but that does seem to be a very common trend.People that have used a large variety of cartridges,tend to have more than one favorite,and most would chose different cartridges for different applications.[/QUOTE]

X2 Well said (338,300wby,300win,7mmstw,270 wby,270wsm,257wby,308,45-70,30-06,243,7mm,270.) just a few i play with.

[gergarin]

The old 270 is just a necked down 30-06 . The 280 is also a 06 variant as is the 7mm express and a dosen other cartredges. They are all about the same as far as ballistics are concerned give or take a few hundred feet per sec.

Did you know the 308 is just a 30-06 with the unused powder space of a normal 30-06 space removed. For all intent & purpose it is a 30-06.

All round catredges in the 30-06 range that includes the 270 are real good all round guns. To say they are the best......well that is personal prefference.

I have a 22-250 I prefer for varments
I have a 6.5 X 55 I use for deer and coyotes
I have 2 30-06 I used for moose in heavy country
I have a 338 win mag I use in thick cover for elk
I have a 338 RUM I use in open country for elk & moose
I have a 300 weatherby I use now & then
I have shot a couple of grizzlies with my 338x378 weatherby
I have a 12 gauge defender for camping under the stars

All of these are personal prefferences. If I had only one gun to choose from well it would be the 30-06 over the 270. The larger bullet width delivers greater foot energy than the narrower bullet. Remember it is Lbs per sq. inch. or lbs over sq in. As the 06 is greater in diameter it delivers greater force as it covers a larger area. Even though the ballistic chart says different.

Let me say this as an exageration of that point. Which would you rather be hit with, a BB doing 48,000 ft per second delivering 30,000 ft lbs per sq inch or a canon ball doing 1100 ft per sec delivering 10,000 lbs per sq inch of energy.

Ya I thought so too.

[justinO]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Most people that have a genuine interest in guns and ballistics,would recognize both cartridge designations.




I have several friends in Manitoba,and they are very familiar with both cartridges,so it isn't a regional thing.




Caliber yes,but 270 does not always refer to 270win.The 270win,270wsm,and 270wby are all the same caliber.270winchester is a cartridge designation,it isn't a caliber,any more than the 30-06 is a caliber.

The simple truth,is that many people that are so sure that one cartridge is clearly superior to all others,haven't hunted with many cartridges.They are so loyal to one cartridge,because that is often the only cartridge that they have considerable experience with.Of course there are exceptions,but that does seem to be a very common trend.People that have used a large variety of cartridges,tend to have more than one favorite,and most would chose different cartridges for different applications.

X10
Very well said. And yes there are so many different types of hunting situations even when one is chasing after the same game that certain calibers even bullet weights within those calibers cater to better than others. So to say one gun is the best at everything is ridiculous. Some people can only afford to put all their money into one good gun like me and I had to pick something that Is best suited for the animals and way I hunt.

[jim-bo]

Not that I have anything against the 270 win or 270 WSM I don't, in fact I really like them; however I would not personally go as far as calling it the best, you did and its all a matter of personal preference.

Your right there are lots of commercial and factory ammunition, and a good sized bullet selection. In the right rifle and at the right price I would not hesitate to buy either, having said that, I sure would like to get my hands on other rifles and calibers as well.

The best all round cartridge is the one that the shooter is most confident with for the game he is hunting. For some its a 243 win, others a 375 H&H.

[redranger15]

Originally Posted by justinO

X10
Very well said. And yes there are so many different types of hunting situations even when one is chasing after the same game that certain calibers even bullet weights within those calibers cater to better than others. So to say one gun is the best at everything is ridiculous. Some people can only afford to put all their money into one good gun like me and I had to pick something that Is best suited for the animals and way I hunt.

What did you pick? I picked a 270wsm because it's the best for what and the way I hunt.

[justinO]

Originally Posted by redranger15

What did you pick? I picked a 270wsm because it's the best for what and the way I hunt.

I have herd great things about the 270 wsm never shot it though what gr bullet do you use? and what are your ballistics like?
I picked a remington 700 Long Range Tactical in 300 win mag. Topped with a Meopta Meostar 3-12x56mm and a harris Bi-pod shooting 190gr berger hunting VLD's Im right at my budget with the set up maybe a touch over lol. I love hunting Huge Peace country glassing for mulleys and elk and tower blinds on cutlines in the big bush for whitetails where I have opportunities at long shots. And for moose depends where the tag is acquired. I also Love to do longe range target shooting in the off season so This gun was best for me. My dream gun is a sako trg in 338 lapua but could not afford it at this stage in my life but one day maybe. And My gun is heavy I would never still hunt or take a freehand shot with it. But I have only killed one deer in my life freehand and that was a running mulley in wainwright kind of a special circumstance with a 7mm. With this gun so far in a month longest kill 560 yards on a yote and a miss by a few inches high at another at 770 with a spotter. The gun is shooting incredible for me cant wait to get home at Christmas to do more shooting. My Leica crf 1200 range finder is my second most important tool.

[elkhunter11]

What did you pick? I picked a 270wsm because it's the best for what and the way I hunt.

In your opinion it is the best,another person hunting the same game in the same conditions as you,might think that another cartrudge is the best.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by redranger15

What did you pick? I picked a 270wsm because it's the best for what and the way I hunt.

What others have you tried to come to this conclusion?

[WkndWarrior]

Proud owner of two 270WSM. A Tikka and a Weatherby

Nuff Said!

[338Bluff]

Oh I dunno. Don't have a 270. If I ever needed a new Varmint gun I might consider one....

[Traps]

And here I thought the 7mm-08 was the best, back to the drawing board!

Originally Posted by Traps

And here I thought the 7mm-08 was the best, back to the drawing board!

It's not Chuck Norris approved