Just came home from Trump's Tampa rally

[hal53]

Originally Posted by raab

Really like universal healthcare that every other industrialized nation pretty much has? The US spends 680 Billion on their military per year but can't afford to give people accessible healthcare. They're the joke of 1st world nations.

Canadian provinces are fast closing in on spending 50% of their budgets on healthcare. If you think our system is sustainable at that rate you are delusional...

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Jpl

As far as I know he has a poor track record when it comes to business. Most of the wealth was created by daddy and a team he inherited from daddy, that includes Trump Tower itself which I believed he opposed building, I think he was in his late 30s or early 40s then. Anything he actually was hands on went under. I believe he states that he is worth 40.5 billion but the actual number was indeed near 4.3 billion as per Forbes.

Sure the media keeps repeating how Trump went bankrupt 3 times. Sure he started out with daddy's money just like 90 + % of wealthy successful business people do. What the misleading media fail to tell you is that Trump has never gone personally bankrupt. Trump has around 400 companies, of those 400 companies only 3 of those companies have failed under his ownership. That is less than 1% failure rate, the national average of take over or start up business is between 30-50% failure. Trumps business track record success rate is pretty much unparalleled by anybody else in the world.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by raab

Pretty easy, vote for the guy who was born to a middle/lower class family, who stood against segregation and was arrested for it, who was at the march on Washington, who wore flannel and work boots AFTER being elected as mayor to Vermonts biggest city, who has preached the same message for 30+ years.

The Neocons are terrified that Trump or Sanders will get the nominations.

Either way, the NWO as we know it will come to an end.

I'd rather see a guy in boots and flannel lead the charge than a suit with a toupee.

https://youtu.be/d3XgicPV3RQ

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[JimPS]

Originally Posted by hal53

Canadian provinces are fast closing in on spending 50% of their budgets on healthcare. If you think our system is sustainable at that rate you are delusional...

Reminder Hal - the thread is about Trump. Nice try.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by JimPS

Reminder Hal - the thread is about Trump. Nice try.

yup, and Trump, as a business man knows at that rate universal healthcare is not feasible....

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Sure the media keeps repeating how Trump went bankrupt 3 times. Sure he started out with daddy's money just like 90 + % of wealthy successful business people do. What the misleading media fail to tell you is that Trump has never gone personally bankrupt. Trump has around 400 companies, of those 400 companies only 3 of those companies have failed under his ownership. That is less than 1% failure rate, the national average of take over or start up business is between 30-50% failure. Trumps business track record success rate is pretty much unparalleled by anybody else in the world.

The flops:
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump Steak
Trump Vodka
Trump University
Gotrump.com
Trump Magazine
Trump the game

The successes
Grand Hyatt
Trump Tower
The Aprentice
40 Wall St building
Trump Place
Trump international Tower

All venture capital gaines were not of his doing they were "presents" from people on the team (daddies guys and gals), they were mostly fixer uppers that were found for him.

Still he's doing a bit better then my current RRSP.

[skidderman]

I think the media for Trump is like the media was for Harper. It wouldn't matter what he did. Good or bad they don't like him because they can't control him. Personally I like that. Perhaps the media should go back to reporting news instead of trying to make it. If we took the media bias out of the equation a lot of people might look at Trump more favorably. Don't know for sure but the leftist self serving media is certainly not our friend.

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by skidderman

I think the media for Trump is like the media was for Harper. It wouldn't matter what he did. Good or bad they don't like him because they can't control him. Personally I like that. Perhaps the media should go back to reporting news instead of trying to make it. If we took the media bias out of the equation a lot of people might look at Trump more favorably. Don't know for sure but the leftist self serving media is certainly not our friend.

Yes...the media was the downfall of Harper. That was it.

[schmedlap]

I really thank and congratulate the OP for his actual incentive to go out and see for himself. A huge problem in "democracy" in our society is the lack of actual participation, interest, and objective reporting and viewpoints. Far too few people take the initiative to get involved, even if only to get off one's butt and go see what it is all about in person. Thank you for the report.

Personally, I think Trump is a vacuous buffoon. One who I generally agree with on many philosophical fronts, but who is playing the very cynical politics of knowing how uninformed and ignorant much of his constituency is, and carefully avoiding the real meat, while pretending to be the opposite. One who brilliantly plays the rhetorical game for crowds without any specifics, or any reference to the actual role and powers of a President. One who pretentiously waves his bible at the Southern crowds while they forgive his past marital infidelities and self-serving "sins" (I am a non-theist, so I just find this funny at the level of supposed "Christians"). He reminds me in some ways of our choice, on the opposite spectrum, of Trulander for PM (?).

Unfortunately, if he wins the nomination, it will come down to him or Clinton II, and it is hard to figure out which one is slimier (? - even seeing a picture of Hillary makes my skin crawl). And that will just hand it to Clinton. Is this really the best that America can offer? I don't have any great respect or love for any of the remaining other GOP candidates, though I would support Cruz just to avoid Trump if I could (even despite his evangelistic support and apparent ties, at least he appears more honest and realistic in practical terms). The whole situation is just sad (?).

Is this the time for a legitimate 3rd party candidate ... and who?

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by schmedlap

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Is this the time for a legitimate 3rd party candidate ... and who?

Be careful what you wish for.

If Trump gets screwed out of the GOP nomination at a "brokered" convention, he may very well reappear as a third party candidate.

With his popularity and his money, he could still become Prez.

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[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by raab

Really like universal healthcare that every other industrialized nation pretty much has? The US spends 680 Billion on their military per year but can't afford to give people accessible healthcare. They're the joke of 1st world nations.

I wonder why then so many people want to live there, including 12 million illegals. no-one "Gives" us health-care, it is paid for by a big chunk of our taxes.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by skidderman

I think the media for Trump is like the media was for Harper. It wouldn't matter what he did. Good or bad they don't like him because they can't control him. Personally I like that. Perhaps the media should go back to reporting news instead of trying to make it. If we took the media bias out of the equation a lot of people might look at Trump more favorably. Don't know for sure but the leftist self serving media is certainly not our friend.

Trump can successfully control the media to promote his agenda.

Harper couldn't and he failed.

Successful media bully versus unsuccessful media bully.


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[Newview01]

Originally Posted by raab

Really like universal healthcare that every other industrialized nation pretty much has? The US spends 680 Billion on their military per year but can't afford to give people accessible healthcare. They're the joke of 1st world nations.

Why do you continually preach the same socialist nonsense? While socialism may have its perks (not sure what they are) it is simply unsustainable. If healthcare were privatized we would see a lot less of our paycheques disappear. And that is one example of how socialism can not be successful over the long term.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Why do you continually preach the same socialist nonsense? While socialism may have its perks (not sure what they are) it is simply unsustainable. If healthcare were privatized we would see a lot less of our paycheques disappear. And that is one example of how socialism can not be successful over the long term.

Tell that to the family of four who have to pay over $850/month for health insurance in the US, plus pay a deductible, plus be restricted to which doctor/specialist they can see because of HMOs and have limits on some of their coverage. Oh, and waiting times can be as long or longer than in Canada.. I just (in the past month) went through that where I was considering having a procedure done in the States. Longer waiting time, $1500-2500 out of pocket, versus a 3 week shorter waiting time and only $415 return flight by having it done in Alberta.

Tell me again how wonderful the States is. They spend 33% more as a percentage o GDP on their healthcare, with worse results. We Canadians live longer.

Reality, not fluff.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by avb3

Tell that to the family of four who have to pay over $850/month for health insurance in the US, plus pay a deductible, plus be restricted to which doctor/specialist they can see because of HMOs and have limits on some of their coverage. Oh, and waiting times can be as long or longer than in Canada.. I just (in the past month) went through that where I was considering having a procedure done in the States. Longer waiting time, $1500-2500 out of pocket, versus a 3 week shorter waiting time and only $415 return flight by having it done in Alberta.

Tell me again how wonderful the States is. They spend 33% more as a percentage o GDP on their healthcare, with worse results. We Canadians live longer.

Reality, not fluff.

Do you know how much of our taxes goes towards healthcare? And yes, obviously, wait times can be longer. But in general are they? I have relatives in the States, and they get state of the art health care pretty quick compared to us..

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Why do you continually preach the same socialist nonsense? While socialism may have its perks (not sure what they are) it is simply unsustainable. If healthcare were privatized we would see a lot less of our paycheques disappear. And that is one example of how socialism can not be successful over the long term.

HA! HA! HAHAHAHAHA!

While getting my degree in the states (Maine to be exact) a friend of mine I made there hit his thumb while we were putting shingles on his shed. I mean he really hit the hell out of it! The thing bled, looked three times the normal size and a tinge of black and blue that I have never seen. As I helped him get down and went inside to get the car keys he asked where I was going...to get the keys so we can go to emergency I replied. Nope he couldn't do it, it would cost a few thousand dollars he said and he wasn't covered and couldn't afford it, he broke his thumb and couldn't get it set. In the end his parents had to lend him the money after a few days of unbearable pain. He was also still paying off the bill he incurred when his wife gave birth to their baby girl who was now 5...still paying the bill.

It is sustainable and I'm all for my taxes going to our system. It ain't perfect but man having needed our system on three serious occasions it does a great job.

[chasingtail]

Originally Posted by avb3

Tell that to the family of four who have to pay over $850/month for health insurance in the US, plus pay a deductible, plus be restricted to which doctor/specialist they can see because of HMOs and have limits on some of their coverage. Oh, and waiting times can be as long or longer than in Canada.. I just (in the past month) went through that where I was considering having a procedure done in the States. Longer waiting time, $1500-2500 out of pocket, versus a 3 week shorter waiting time and only $415 return flight by having it done in Alberta.

Tell me again how wonderful the States is. They spend 33% more as a percentage o GDP on their healthcare, with worse results. We Canadians live longer.

Reality, not fluff.

Exactly the problems only Trump can fix!

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Jpl

The flops:
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump Steak
Trump Vodka
Trump University
Gotrump.com
Trump Magazine
Trump the game

The successes
Grand Hyatt
Trump Tower
The Aprentice
40 Wall St building
Trump Place
Trump international Tower

All venture capital gaines were not of his doing they were "presents" from people on the team (daddies guys and gals), they were mostly fixer uppers that were found for him.

Still he's doing a bit better then my current RRSP.

I was wrong 4 not 3 of his companies have ever filed for bankruptcy. He has closed some of his companies but when you own 400 some do better than others so you close some or sell some to use the money to invest in other businesses as time and the business world evolve, but I wouldn't call them failures in the sense of the bankrupt word.

The 'presents' you talk about from members of the 'team' are what business people do, they put people who can call shots, make decisions, make money on their team and pay them well. They are doing their job they were hired for. Nobody has time to operate 400 businesses. Especially right now when he is running for rep leadership these businesses must be run by his hired people.

You say Trump is doing better than your current RRSP then he is doing pretty darn good. Compared to trillions in far more diversified mutual fund/rrsp market and you say Trump is doing better with a far less diversified 4 billion dollar 400 company portfolio to work with tells me he knows at least as much as those investment house bankers playing with your rrsp fund. How many of those companies your rrsp money is invested in have gone bankrupt, lots of them, some win some lose. Hopefully more win than lose. For Trump to lose or close a few business is to be expected, it makes good business sense to plug the leaks. The bigger the ship the more leaks it will have, the idea is to keep it afloat so collectively it can keep delivering the cargo.

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

I was wrong 4 not 3 of his companies have ever filed for bankruptcy. He has closed some of his companies but when you own 400 some do better than others so you close some or sell some to use the money to invest in other businesses as time and the business world evolve, but I wouldn't call them failures in the sense of the bankrupt word.

The 'presents' you talk about from members of the 'team' are what business people do, they put people who can call shots, make decisions, make money on their team and pay them well. They are doing their job they were hired for. Nobody has time to operate 400 businesses. Especially right now when he is running for rep leadership these businesses must be run by his hired people.

You say Trump is doing better than your current RRSP then he is doing pretty darn good. Compared to trillions in far more diversified mutual fund/rrsp market and you say Trump is doing better with a far less diversified 4 billion dollar 400 company portfolio to work with tells me he knows at least as much as those investment house bankers playing with your rrsp fund. How many of those companies your rrsp money is invested in have gone bankrupt, lots of them, some win some lose. Hopefully more win than lose. For Trump to lose or close a few business is to be expected, it makes good business sense to plug the leaks. The bigger the ship the more leaks it will have, the idea is to keep it afloat so collectively it can keep delivering the cargo.

Thanks for the business course, it's appreciated. Now if only he had hired those people then I might find an ounce of respect for the man...still looking and nope none found.

[HatchMatcher]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Why do you continually preach the same socialist nonsense? While socialism may have its perks (not sure what they are) it is simply unsustainable. If healthcare were privatized we would see a lot less of our paycheques disappear. And that is one example of how socialism can not be successful over the long term.

Grab a brain!

[sns2]

I wonder how many of us actually agree with the stuff that comes out of his mouth, but is trashed by the msm?

I will be honest. I agree with a pile of what he says. Not all, but lots of it. Reality is that the Office of the President doesn't hold the power to do 90% of what he promises.

[ex811]

We have Truedope as a leader...nuff said.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Do you know how much of our taxes goes towards healthcare? And yes, obviously, wait times can be longer. But in general are they? I have relatives in the States, and they get state of the art health care pretty quick compared to us..

And do you know that on average US people pay more then 150% more then we Canadians and most other single payer healthcare countries pay?

Do you know that over half of the US's personal bankruptcies are due to healthcare issues, many of which are people that have insurance which turns out to be insufficient?

Or that there are many US people that die or suffer from severe health problems because they cannot afford treatment?

These are all facts that can be easily proven with a couple minutes of research into the matter.

The US healthcare system works great for those that have large amounts of cash on hand or excellent insurance coverage but for everyone else it is not a good system and it needs to be revamped and any Canadian that says it isn't possible is stupid as we already have it and I guarantee if we spent the extra 50% to spend the same as US per capita we wouldn't have the wait times/issues our current system does...

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by ex811

We have Truedope as a leader...nuff said.

I think "same **** different toilet" would be a good description. Both say what their crowd wants to hear. I happen to enjoy what Trump says more, but if he get's elected and tries to follow up on his promises - it can be even more messed up than what we have. Trump or Clinton the 2nd, not sure what's less scary though, can't believe either could ever get elected, interesting times.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by chasingtail

Exactly the problems only Trump can fix!

I wonder how he is going to try and bully congress to get his ideas across... It ain't gonna happen.

[happy5]

Kudos for checking it out, abv3.

Note: what you attended was actually a town hall, not a rally. He draws upwards of 10,000 to 40,000 people to rallies. Town halls are a smaller format designed for candidates to take questions from the audience. 1,500 is already very large for a town hall. When you see other candidates doing them they usually only have tens or hundreds of people. Trump could surely draw a larger crowd than 1,500 if he wanted. He had a rally in Tampa a little over a month ago with 10,000+ audience.

You can also watch Trump's rallies and town halls live (or after the fact) on this YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/rightsideradio

I've listened to about 50 of them over the course of the primaries and am a Trump supporter. I will admit that Trump is not the best speaker, nor is he some kind of ideal candidate, but he's by far the best option America has right now.

Here are the reasons that I support Trump (and I know many others share these reasons):

1. He's the only one standing up to political correctness, which has gone too far.
2. He's the only one calling out the extremely biased and dishonest mainstream media.
3. He's the only one willing to bring up taboo and real issues like: 9/11 investigation, auditing the Federal Reserve, faked employment statistics, "free" trade's harmful effect on the economy, the economy being in a giant bubble, the imbalanced war being fought against ISIS, etc. (Others are now flat out stealing Trump's positions such as building a wall, but only after they became popular. Trump is the only one likely to follow through.)
4. He's bringing together a much-needed nationalist revolution in America right now. He's got a lot of momentum behind him. Globalism is what's destroying America. The likes of TPP are chipping away at American sovereignty.
5. He's been extremely successful so far in his candidacy. It's easy to write him off as being a bombastic fool, but look at previous outsider candidates like Ron Paul, most recently: they all failed, didn't get their message out, and got shut down prematurely by the media and establishment. Trump beat them precisely because of his bombastic style: the media didn't take him seriously until it was too late and now they're self-imploding, frantically trying to stop him.
6. He's awakening a lot of the public to the corruption of American politics, whether he wins or not. The further he gets, the more extremes the media and establishment have to go to to stop him, the more they reveal themselves.
7. He's the only one who isn't part of the "establishment". At least there's a possibility that he'll follow through with what he says. We know the others will be more of the same corruption we've had for decades. That corruption can't continue any longer as America is really at a crossroads. Trump is probably the last non-violent option due to the demographic changes happening in America.
8. He's the only one standing up to the radical left wing terrorists. His opponents and the media are siding with violent paid protesters over him and his 1st amendment rights.
9. Everyone evil, all the elites and media, the bankers, the globalists and corrupt politicians are against him. They're trying as hard as they can to slander him and stop him. The enemy of our enemy....
10. He's the only one who has a sensible position on Russia, the only one that wants to get along with Putin rather than try to start WW3 with him. The establishment loves war and invading other countries.
11. He says it as it is, is unfiltered, is not lying to people. People are sick of lying politicians. He's likable. His family is likable. They seem like they genuinely care about America, which is unfortunately a rare thing nowadays! It's become more politically correct to stomp on the American flag than to display it with pride.

In my assessment, there is very little downside to supporting Trump and there's a lot of upside. He's causing positive things to happen in America. Things that need to happen. He has no competition. A vote for Trump is a vote against the corrupt oligarchy currently in power in the United States.

Many more Americans are disillusioned with progressivism/radical liberalism and government tyranny than Canadians. We're happy to elect someone like Trudeau because we haven't had to deal with the problems it causes - yet. We are still quite naive (and inconsequential) up here. Europe is slowly stirring as they are being destroyed. Eastern Europe at least will survive - it's not clear yet if Western Europe will. Americans right now are in the best position to defeat cultural Marxism and restore sanity to the Western world. If this fails, we will all be in for a world of hurt in our futures.

Here's a very good town hall meeting given by Trump's son. I recommend it if you're interested in his perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IqfRbjcpDY

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

That sounds great! Im happy to hear one of us was down there to suport him! Good on ya AVB3, with any luck we can attract similar people to office.

The king of North America...rocking at the rally.

Would have been neat to see how things are viewed first hand.

[winged1]

Originally Posted by happy5

Kudos for checking it out, abv3.

Note: what you attended was actually a town hall, not a rally. He draws upwards of 10,000 to 40,000 people to rallies. Town halls are a smaller format designed for candidates to take questions from the audience. 1,500 is already very large for a town hall. When you see other candidates doing them they usually only have tens or hundreds of people. Trump could surely draw a larger crowd than 1,500 if he wanted. He had a rally in Tampa a little over a month ago with 10,000+ audience.

You can also watch Trump's rallies and town halls live (or after the fact) on this YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/rightsideradio

I've listened to about 50 of them over the course of the primaries and am a Trump supporter. I will admit that Trump is not the best speaker, nor is he some kind of ideal candidate, but he's by far the best option America has right now.

Here are the reasons that I support Trump (and I know many others share these reasons):

1. He's the only one standing up to political correctness, which has gone too far.
2. He's the only one calling out the extremely biased and dishonest mainstream media.
3. He's the only one willing to bring up taboo and real issues like: 9/11 investigation, auditing the Federal Reserve, faked employment statistics, "free" trade's harmful effect on the economy, the economy being in a giant bubble, the imbalanced war being fought against ISIS, etc. (Others are now flat out stealing Trump's positions such as building a wall, but only after they became popular. Trump is the only one likely to follow through.)
4. He's bringing together a much-needed nationalist revolution in America right now. He's got a lot of momentum behind him. Globalism is what's destroying America. The likes of TPP are chipping away at American sovereignty.
5. He's been extremely successful so far in his candidacy. It's easy to write him off as being a bombastic fool, but look at previous outsider candidates like Ron Paul, most recently: they all failed, didn't get their message out, and got shut down prematurely by the media and establishment. Trump beat them precisely because of his bombastic style: the media didn't take him seriously until it was too late and now they're self-imploding, frantically trying to stop him.
6. He's awakening a lot of the public to the corruption of American politics, whether he wins or not. The further he gets, the more extremes the media and establishment have to go to to stop him, the more they reveal themselves.
7. He's the only one who isn't part of the "establishment". At least there's a possibility that he'll follow through with what he says. We know the others will be more of the same corruption we've had for decades. That corruption can't continue any longer as America is really at a crossroads. Trump is probably the last non-violent option due to the demographic changes happening in America.
8. He's the only one standing up to the radical left wing terrorists. His opponents and the media are siding with violent paid protesters over him and his 1st amendment rights.
9. Everyone evil, all the elites and media, the bankers, the globalists and corrupt politicians are against him. They're trying as hard as they can to slander him and stop him. The enemy of our enemy....
10. He's the only one who has a sensible position on Russia, the only one that wants to get along with Putin rather than try to start WW3 with him. The establishment loves war and invading other countries.
11. He says it as it is, is unfiltered, is not lying to people. People are sick of lying politicians. He's likable. His family is likable. They seem like they genuinely care about America, which is unfortunately a rare thing nowadays! It's become more politically correct to stomp on the American flag than to display it with pride.

In my assessment, there is very little downside to supporting Trump and there's a lot of upside. He's causing positive things to happen in America. Things that need to happen. He has no competition. A vote for Trump is a vote against the corrupt oligarchy currently in power in the United States.

Many more Americans are disillusioned with progressivism/radical liberalism and government tyranny than Canadians. We're happy to elect someone like Trudeau because we haven't had to deal with the problems it causes - yet. We are still quite naive (and inconsequential) up here. Europe is slowly stirring as they are being destroyed. Eastern Europe at least will survive - it's not clear yet if Western Europe will. Americans right now are in the best position to defeat cultural Marxism and restore sanity to the Western world. If this fails, we will all be in for a world of hurt in our futures.

Here's a very good town hall meeting given by Trump's son. I recommend it if you're interested in his perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IqfRbjcpDY

you have not made a reference to a single policy, which appears to be typical of trump supporters. How do you actually know what trump will do, and how he plans on doing it. I support change in the structure, and he may well be that change, but it's best to have an idea of where your going before you turn control over.

[Fisherpeak]

Originally Posted by schmedlap

I really thank and congratulate the OP for his actual incentive to go out and see for himself. A huge problem in "democracy" in our society is the lack of actual participation, interest, and objective reporting and viewpoints. Far too few people take the initiative to get involved, even if only to get off one's butt and go see what it is all about in person. Thank you for the report.

Personally, I think Trump is a vacuous buffoon. One who I generally agree with on many philosophical fronts, but who is playing the very cynical politics of knowing how uninformed and ignorant much of his constituency is, and carefully avoiding the real meat, while pretending to be the opposite. One who brilliantly plays the rhetorical game for crowds without any specifics, or any reference to the actual role and powers of a President. One who pretentiously waves his bible at the Southern crowds while they forgive his past marital infidelities and self-serving "sins" (I am a non-theist, so I just find this funny at the level of supposed "Christians"). He reminds me in some ways of our choice, on the opposite spectrum, of Trulander for PM (?).

Unfortunately, if he wins the nomination, it will come down to him or Clinton II, and it is hard to figure out which one is slimier (? - even seeing a picture of Hillary makes my skin crawl). And that will just hand it to Clinton. Is this really the best that America can offer? I don't have any great respect or love for any of the remaining other GOP candidates, though I would support Cruz just to avoid Trump if I could (even despite his evangelistic support and apparent ties, at least he appears more honest and realistic in practical terms). The whole situation is just sad (?).

Is this the time for a legitimate 3rd party candidate ... and who?

Thank you for this post, you saved me a lot of 2 finger typing.
I loath Cruz, Rubio is a kid and Trump is, well, you know.
Gonna be Clinton 2.0 and that may be worst of all.
Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times"

[JB_AOL]

Originally Posted by winged1

you have not made a reference to a single policy, which appears to be typical of trump supporters. How do you actually know what trump will do, and how he plans on doing it. I support change in the structure, and he may well be that change, but it's best to have an idea of where your going before you turn control over.

Seriously... It's ****ing politics, specifically campaigning.. how do you know ANY of the politicians will follow through with ANY of their promises. You don't (and most times they don't know either). They figure out when they get in, how and if they can do it.

Please note I am not defending Trump or any other politician.

IMHO, Change is good, and I think Trump is the man for them at this time. Although I sadly agree, he will probably be assassinated shortly after taking office.