Trump for the win

[Bub]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

I think she's done. She's had two runs at it. Obama and Trump both beat her. Whatever your political persuasion, either way she lost to one of the worst Presidents the country has ever had. LOL

She is definitely done. I hope so, anyway.

However, putting Obama and Trump in the same basket is laughable. Not a fan of either, but saying that Obama was the worst president? Bet an overwhelming majority of Americans would disagree with you yesterday, today and tomorrow. Your posts usually make the most sense on many topics, but this one is questionable at best.

P.S. Did bb get suspended for the picture posted in this thread?

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Bub

She is definitely done. I hope so, anyway.

However, putting Obama and Trump in the same basket is laughable. Not a fan of either, but saying that Obama was the worst president? Bet an overwhelming majority of Americans would disagree with you yesterday, today and tomorrow. Your posts usually make the most sense on many topics, but this one is questionable at best.

I didn't say either one of them was the worst. I said most Americans would say one or the other was the worst, depending on their political allegiances. Folks who voted trump mostly HATED Obama and would likely call him the worst. They see him as a socialist who was ruining the country. Or they are racists who just hated him for his color. And Trump would be called the worst by every person who didn't vote for him. There has never been the fury for a president that there is for the current one. That's all. It wasn't an objective judgement of their actual achievements.

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by Scott h

LOL
He doesn't believe the science on that either

Sure he does

Best eclipse ever!

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[Bub]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

I didn't say either one of them was the worst. I said most Americans would say one or the other was the worst, depending on their political allegiances. Folks who voted trump mostly HATED Obama and would likely call him the worst. They see him as a socialist who was ruining the country. Or they are racists who just hated him for his color. And Trump would be called the worst by every person who didn't vote for him. There has never been the fury for a president that there is for the current one. That's all. It wasn't an objective judgement of their actual achievements.

I misread your post then.

But I don't agree that those who voted for Trump mostly hated Obama. It is easy to see that this is not the case from 2012 elections. Romney lost by almost 4%, which is quite significant. And Obama literally crushed both McCain and Romney electoral vote wise. I guess that goes for his socialist views as well. Has Obama's platform changed significantly through out his presidency? Not really, I don't think. The only thing that really took a 180 turn from the beginning to a few years later was relations with Russia.

Maybe there were way too many who either hated or just disliked Hilary in general? I don't know. The voter turn out dropped by nearly 5% percent from 2012 and over 8% from 2008. I am pretty sure (and unfortunately there is no way today to prove me right or wrong) that if Obama ran for office again (i.e. he was the democratic candidate instead of Hillary), he would be the next president of the United States and Trump would loose by record numbers.

P.S. I still have no idea why the dude was awarded a Nobel Prize for peace.