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11-14-2018, 07:07 PM
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Yep me too lol. Showing our age 😛
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Originally Posted by FCLightning
That's always been a 3 point in any conversation I have had over the past 40 years.
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11-14-2018, 07:40 PM
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I'm really surprised this made 2 pages. Haha
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11-14-2018, 09:25 PM
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That is a 4X4 all day long!
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11-14-2018, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505
I never understood the whole confusion over counting points. Some guys say you don’t count the brow points but will count the tip of the beam as a point??? I would say the brow tine is more of a point than the main beam is if you want to get sticky about things. The proper name for the points on a deer is tine, where as the proper name for the main beam is beam, yet a guy will call the beam a point and a brow tine a nothing...... seems a little weird.
It’s a 4x4 with a total of 8 points imo.
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Yes. The beam ends in a point. Tines comes off the beam. A 3 pt elk only has two tines
Its a 4 pt.
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11-14-2018, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hal53
What would you call a deer that had 3 on one side and 2 on the other?
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In albeeria we’d call it a 3x2. Saskabush would be 2x3. The other places east might call it a 5 pointer or a deux by trois and I think in newfie they average it and call it a “two hafer b’y”
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11-14-2018, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hal53
What would you call a deer that had 3 on one side and 2 on the other?
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A junior forest ranger!
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11-14-2018, 09:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy
Thanks for the quick responses guys. General consensus seems to be 4x4.
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11-14-2018, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pixel Shooter
Yep me too lol. Showing our age 😛
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Yup, us older generation will call it a 3x3.
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11-14-2018, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Rat
Yup, us older generation will call it a 3x3.
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I guess I`m old.
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11-14-2018, 11:08 PM
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If I remember correctly, the hunting regs of the old by gone days had you not counting the main beams as a point & I believe that would be where the confusion may have originated. Most in the hunting community would go by the B&C way and call it a 4x4.
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11-15-2018, 01:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catnthehat
Going by B&C ruling , the brow tines are counted on a white tail buck.
Total number of tines counted along with the main beam
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Exactly!
And congrats on your harvest! Dandy and healthy looking buck.
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11-15-2018, 05:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Rat
Yup, us older generation will call it a 3x3.
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Not all of us. It's a 4x4. Manitoba & west it is a 4x4, cause we know how to count. Ontario & east it would be a 3x3.
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11-15-2018, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by blgoodbrand1
A super dink
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Some of us call them one's weiner bucks.
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11-15-2018, 06:09 AM
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I would say 4x4. If it grew I'll count it. But let's not harp on the 8 point guys. They are just doing the math that we couldn't do in our heads!
Onne, twwwo, threeee, four.
And the other side.
One, twwwooo, threee, four.
= 4x4
who can remember how to multiply fractions.8-)
4x4 it is.
Brad
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11-15-2018, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bsmitty27
I would say 4x4. If it grew I'll count it. But let's not harp on the 8 point guys. They are just doing the math that we couldn't do in our heads!
Onne, twwwo, threeee, four.
And the other side.
One, twwwooo, threee, four.
= 4x4
who can remember how to multiply fractions.8-)
4x4 it is.
Brad
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Nothing t do with math, they just use larger numbers to make their deer sound larger, because most of the deer they shoot, would be passed up here.
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11-15-2018, 06:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmitty27
I would say 4x4. If it grew I'll count it. But let's not harp on the 8 point guys. They are just doing the math that we couldn't do in our heads!
Onne, twwwo, threeee, four.
And the other side.
One, twwwooo, threee, four.
= 4x4
who can remember how to multiply fractions.8-)
4x4 it is.
Brad
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4x4=16 pointer wow eh
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11-15-2018, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by blgoodbrand1
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Depending on size might add another 1/2 point
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11-15-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ozzy
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I'm old. It's a 4 x 4 and a person with some sort of horrible facial disfigurement holding its head up.
Never heard anyone not count brown tunes on a whitetail
. Many years ago in Sask lots counted total points on both sides.
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11-15-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzy
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I call that a fine buck! Congratulations!
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11-15-2018, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 270person
a person with some sort of horrible facial disfigurement holding its head up.
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I was wondering where you could buy those cool camo face masks like that.
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11-15-2018, 09:24 PM
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I shot a 4x4 today. It had 5 points on each side.
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11-15-2018, 09:49 PM
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Pickle’s
Every Fall I have at least one encounter with pickles...
1.5 year old 2x2 buck who’s antlers look like little pickle forks...
Bar none the dumbest whitetail in the woods during November...
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11-15-2018, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
That's always been a 3 point in any conversation I have had over the past 40 years.
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Same
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11-16-2018, 01:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm
Same
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Did you call it a 3 pronger?
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11-16-2018, 04:20 PM
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Tallying up the points is how it's done back east. I still call a "5x5" a 10 point buck even though I live in Sk now.
Whitetails: You count all points that are longer than one inch, including brow-tines.
Mule Deer: You only count G2s and above, for example, a 4x4 is a mule deer that has four points on either sides, not counting the brow-tines.
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11-16-2018, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catnthehat
That is a 4X4 all day long!
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That's how I thought most would see it, myself included. This thread is showing me that many call it different things. Either way it is a nice buck. Congrats.
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11-16-2018, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scruffee
Mule Deer: You only count G2s and above, for example, a 4x4 is a mule deer that has four points on either sides, not counting the brow-tines.
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That’s sort of right in my opinion. It’s true that in a 4-point Mule deer season you cannot count the eye guards/brow tines and that in order to be a legal 4-pointer in that season it needs to have 4 points above the brow tine on one side. But when scoring that same Mule deer B&C the brow tines still count for total inches. I’d argue that a Mule deer with 3 up top and eye guards is still a 4x4 but I’ve learned in the past to just describe one as 3 points up top and brow tines since some people get really bent out of shape if you call it a 4-pointer.
I’ve seen the same thread on Hunting BC go on for pages as I’m sure it has on here before too. There’s never a general consensus what constitutes a true 4x4 and in the case of Mule deer I can see why there is confusion. But when it comes to Whitetails I have no idea why someone would not count the brow tines.
In the end if a point meets the definition of a point then I call it a point and I don’t worry one bit if the next guy chooses to call it a point or not.
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11-16-2018, 10:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505
Did you call it a 3 pronger?
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I call it what i was taught to call by my father, others call it a 6 pointer, others call it a 8 pointer others call it a 4 pointer, im at 3, what’s wrong am i different than you so im wrong??
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11-20-2018, 08:32 PM
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Sasky boy here, and that is most definitely a 4x4. This concept of not counting brow tines as “tines” is counter intuitive. It’s kind of in the name, no?
Also, if you went all ‘Murican and called it an 8-pointer, you naturally assume that it’s symmetrical (which of course in this case it is), but it procludes the possibility that the rack some sort of atypical configuration of tine layout.
P.s. congrats on the buck. You never forget your first!
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