muzzle breaks no place in hunting!! your opinion??

redneck posse · #1 01-22-2010, 06:18 PM

i was watching a hunting show in wild TV today and the host blamed missing his shot on a hunter beside him using a muzzle break. then at the end of the program he stated that muzzle breaks have no place in hunting. i realize every one is entitled to there opinion but was he over the line?? whats your thoughts on it.

Rackmastr · #2 01-22-2010, 06:23 PM

I agree with him....unless ya hunt alone!!! lol

Man do I hate those things with a passion. They are great for reducing recoil and I dont mind them if I have time to put ear plugs in if a friend is shooting, but for hunting with friends I absolutely hate em....they can cause permanent hearing damage and require a person to wear hearing protection 100% of the time.

They have no place in any of my hunting rifles, and I sure have to trust the guy I'm hunting with to know that he wont take a shot without the other guys around him being prepared...

redneck posse · #3 01-22-2010, 06:28 PM

ive been thinking about getting one on my 300wsm. but dont know if i want to p*$$ off my hunting partner. ive hunted with a few guys that use muzzle breaks, but never really noticed a big difference in noise.

Rackmastr · #4 01-22-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by redneck posse

ive been thinking about getting one on my 300wsm. but dont know if i want to p*$$ off my hunting partner. ive hunted with a few guys that use muzzle breaks, but never really noticed a big difference in noise.

Uggh....I shudder when I think of them and the damage they can do. If you dont mind wearing hearing protection 100% of the time and you dont mind the extra noise, then have at it. Personal opinion only but I hate them with a passion.

Personally I'd get one that you can take off for hunting season. Use it for target and off-season shooting and then just go hunt.

honda450 · #5 01-22-2010, 06:34 PM

Yup I agree with Rack.

whitetailhntr · #6 01-22-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rackmastr

Uggh....I shudder when I think of them and the damage they can do. If you dont mind wearing hearing protection 100% of the time and you dont mind the extra noise, then have at it. Personal opinion only but I hate them with a passion.

Personally I'd get one that you can take off for hunting season. Use it for target and off-season shooting and then just go hunt.

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They can be useful at the range to make shooting more comfortable at the bench but you don't need one when hunting. You won't notice the recoil when shooting at game.Get a removable one like Rack says then your good to go.

Donny Bear · #7 01-22-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetailhntr

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They can be useful at the range to make shooting more comfortable at the bench but you don't need one when hunting. You won't notice the recoil when shooting at game.Get a removable one like Rack says then your good to go.

Useful at the range where you have lots of people around

If everyone was equipped wit double hearing protection ie: plugs and head set they would be fine.

I think if the gun bugs you that much "gun down" ,if a brake prevents you from haven a twitch you can bet it will give one to your buddies

Tony_S · #8 01-22-2010, 07:15 PM

Only ever shot a rifle with a brake ONE time without hearing protection. I came across a guy I work with while out hunting...he asks me to take a shot with his rifle (a 300. Win) cause he thinks his scope is out....OK. Saw the brake on the barrel...but never thought twice about it.

I pulled the trigger....AND SWEET MOTHER OF @&^#$T!!! My ears rang for three days (literally).

Damn rifle was dead on...

180+ · #9 01-22-2010, 07:26 PM

If your hunting with a guy what the heck you doing standing beside him!! muzzle brakes work at 90 degree angles!!! If you hunt with somebody that has one atleast be smart enough to get out of earshot!! I use a brake on my .300 wsm and it is louder at 90 degrees but not for myself!!

whitetailhntr · #10 01-22-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny Bear

Useful at the range where you have lots of people around

If everyone was equipped wit double hearing protection ie: plugs and head set they would be fine.

I think if the gun bugs you that much "gun down" ,if a brake prevents you from haven a twitch you can bet it will give one to your buddies

Everyone i know wears proper hearing protection at the range. Seen many guys use them at the range and have never been bothered by it.

redneck posse · #11 01-22-2010, 07:50 PM

i love my 300wsm and with the limb saver i barely feel it even at the range. the reason i was thinking about a break was the GF want to try shooting it and im worried that the recoil will hurt her and make her shy away from wanting to shoot anything else. im thinking of picking up a 270 win with limb saver and low recoil rounds for her to shoot.

209x50 · #12 01-22-2010, 08:01 PM

The fellow the the brake has the responsibility to make sure he doesn't harm anyones hearing. Just my opinion.

Fox red lab · #13 01-22-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redneck posse

i was watching a hunting show in wild TV today and the host blamed missing his shot on a hunter beside him using a muzzle break. then at the end of the program he stated that muzzle breaks have no place in hunting. i realize every one is entitled to there opinion but was he over the line?? whats your thoughts on it.

I saw the very same show last Sunday at 8am. I found his comment odd as number one he was making an excuse for missing and number 2 he was making a pretty opinionated statement saying brakes had no place in hunting. Right or wrong he is entitled to his opinion but it was as though he was giving the guy crap for showing up with a brake on his gun.

My thought is that you are the expert hunter with your own show and all so maybe you should know better than to stand beside a guy shooting with a brake and maybe you should wear eye protection. In my business it's called Hazard ID. .02

skidderman · #14 01-22-2010, 08:08 PM

I have a 300 WSM Browning with the boss on it. Let alone someone around me it is unbearable to shoot without hearing protection. I also have the so called cover to replace the boss but it is still very loud. I like the gun but am considering either selling it or having the boss cut off and muzzle re-crowned. I agree that it is OK at the range but it is a way worse than I thought it would be. Anyone else out there having the same issues with the boss?

Rackmastr · #15 01-22-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 180+

If your hunting with a guy what the heck you doing standing beside him!! muzzle brakes work at 90 degree angles!!! If you hunt with somebody that has one atleast be smart enough to get out of earshot!! I use a brake on my .300 wsm and it is louder at 90 degrees but not for myself!!

Get out of earshot? So maybe in an adjacent WMU?

elkhunter11 · #16 01-22-2010, 08:24 PM

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I use a brake on my .300 wsm and it is louder at 90 degrees but not for myself!!

I have fired several guns with brakes,and have owned two myself.Most were louder to the shooter with plugs and muffs combined,than with muffs only and the brake removed.

Brock1 · #17 01-22-2010, 08:33 PM

I bought a 7mm ultra mag 3 yrs ago after seeing how a buddy's gun performed. I am 5'10 190lbs and with his gun I was getting a flinch. I bought one and put a break on it and love the performance. i wear plugs all the time with it. But yes it is fricken loud. I dont think i could shoot it without a break though. i like to use mine for sitting in stand and my a bolt 7mm mag for pushes or rattling or still hunting. or in the truck...haha... in a stand by myself it is ideal. i can truly make a shot accuarately at 400 to 500 with a rest and feel confident. so i am for a break in certain scenarios. not to mention, the knock down power of the ultra mag is awesome

Cowtown guy · #18 01-22-2010, 08:53 PM

They are louder even if you are not at 90 degrees. The sound is dispersed at different angles and is able to bounce back at you from lots of different objects. Rocks, trees, whatever. The holes aren't just on the sides of the barrel. You can even feel the concussion while beside and behind the shooter. I was shooting beside a guy with a 300 win mag at the range and his barrel was probably 12 inches farther ahead of mine. When he shot he actually flipped pages over on my log book. My book was about 4 or 5 feet away and slightly behind him. Nowhere close to 90 degrees! I sat in the truck until he was done.
I personally feel that if you hunt with someone else they must know when you are shooting. For every party involved they should have proper hearing protection or long term damage can occur.
Not a fair gadget to use with a partner.

catnthehat · #19 01-22-2010, 09:16 PM

Muzzle brakes? I HATE the danged things! HOWEVER, it is certainly not my place to say they should be outlawed!
That is just foolishness.
If a person wants to hunt with one, get after it , i say - just not around me!!

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hal53 · #20 01-22-2010, 09:25 PM

I think if the recoil of a 300 WSM scares you that bad...then maybe look at a caliber that you can handle and shoot well...dead is dead...you just don't get to tell the stories about how you killed your deer at 600 yards with a "Super whatever Magnum" , are you serious you need a brake on a rifle for Elk and Moose?????

JustinC · #21 01-22-2010, 09:33 PM

I think they are great. I think that if you shoot a big gun it take alot of the kick away.As for hunting I also hunt with walkers game ears so I can here everythink and the shot id deadend.I hunt alot by myself but if I am with another I will give them more than enough time before I shoot to cover there ears. They are the loudest thing in the world. I dont care If you are sitting 30 feet away you know it.I would tell you to try a mercury rod before you put a muzzle break on cause I hate putting those things in my ears.

Ormachek · #22 01-22-2010, 09:37 PM

I don't even like being next to someone at the range with one!!! Not only are they really loud, but when you're next one, you can "feel" it when they shoot!!! Drives me nuts.

JustinC · #23 01-22-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ormachek

I don't even like being next to someone at the range with one!!! Not only are they really loud, but when you're next one, you can "feel" it when they shoot!!! Drives me nuts.

Icant beleive they let them at the range.

whitetail Junkie · #24 01-22-2010, 09:43 PM

My next Rifle i'm buying is going to be a 338-378 Wby Mag,and weatherby makes all there rifles in this cartridge with a muzzle break.I dont really like the muzzle break because it makes the Rifle look goofy.however noise from any rifle with a muzzle break or not ,does'nt bother me.When I shoot at an animal while hunting,i'm so pumped I dont remember hearing the shot or feel the recoil? Must be adrenaline?

Rackmastr · #25 01-22-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

MMust be adrenaline?

Its called "Auditory Exclusion" and its common in high stress situations, shootings, car accidents, etc.

Pretty cool to read about. Its kinda the same as people seeing things in slow motion, having things go to 'autopilot', 3rd person view, etc. Its the bodies natural response to stressful situations.

Kinda a cool little side-note, but cool to read on if you're into that kinda stuff...

altaberg · #26 01-22-2010, 10:09 PM

would never be caught dead hunting with somebody who has those things on their rifle.

They shouldn't be allowed on ranges with other shooters nearby either.

Gradual hearing loss doesn't take much and is pretty much irreversible.

Get a rifle where you can handle the recoil.

Donny Bear · #27 01-22-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetailhntr

Everyone i know wears proper hearing protection at the range. Seen many guys use them at the range and have never been bothered by it.

You must go to them thar fancy ranges 50% of our people wear plugs or Head sets of different grades 85 db requires hearing protection and most standard equipment reduces sound by about 23 db a ported 300 win mag can produce 3 X and you will reduce 23 db maybe 50 db with good protection

What did you say

JustinC · #28 01-22-2010, 10:40 PM

It is sumed up easy. You want one-go get one. You dont -dont. As for hunting partners just show some respect for there hearing and there opinions on it.

elkhunter11 · #29 01-22-2010, 10:40 PM

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When I shoot at an animal while hunting,i'm so pumped I dont remember hearing the shot or feel the recoil? Must be adrenaline?

Whether you remember it or not,it can still damage your hearing.

JustinC · #30 01-22-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

My next Rifle i'm buying is going to be a 338-378 Wby Mag,and weatherby makes all there rifles in this cartridge with a muzzle break.I dont really like the muzzle break because it makes the Rifle look goofy.however noise from any rifle with a muzzle break or not ,does'nt bother me.When I shoot at an animal while hunting,i'm so pumped I dont remember hearing the shot or feel the recoil? Must be adrenaline?

Protect your ears Tyler you would be pretty mad if you couldnt hear again.