Sask. won't use provincial RCMP funds to confiscate firearms

[bat119]

I couldn't picture armoured cars and SWAT teams pulling no knock raids on gunowners for what was once legally owned property.

“Confiscating the property and eroding the rights of responsible, law-abiding firearms owners does not address the illegal, violent use of firearms in our communities, and we would ask the federal government to help support law enforcement initiatives focused on tackling gangs and violent offenders,” said Eyre.

https://www.sasktoday.ca/south/local...ptions-5879168

[IronNoggin]

Sask. government pulling money away from federal gun buyback

The Saskatchewan government is trying to put its foot down when it comes to guns.

In 2020, the federal government reclassified about 1,500 types of guns as prohibited and committed to implementing a buyback program. While there are indications that program is starting to be set up, Saskatchewan’s government is throwing up roadblocks.

According to the province’s chief firearms officer, Robert Freberg, the Ministry of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety sent a letter to the RCMP on Tuesday indicating the province supports anti-crime initiatives that focus on the issues related to the criminal use of firearms and that prevent gang violence and address illegal or smuggled guns.

“However, we do not support initiatives that will impact law-abiding, RCMP-vetted hunters, sport shooters, ranchers, farmers and others who use firearms for lawful and good purposes,” Freberg told Gormley on Wednesday.

Therefore, Freberg said the provincial government has decided it won’t allow the use of provincial funds to administer and enforce the buyback program, which Freberg called a confiscation program.

“We’re saying this isn’t a priority to use our taxpayers’ dollars,” said Freberg.

https://www.ckom.com/2022/09/28/sask...l-gun-buyback/

[Demonical]

^ Awesome news!!

[elkhunter11]

That is two provinces, we need more to join, to make it difficult for Trudeau.

[Demonical]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

That is two provinces, we need more to join, to make it difficult for Trudeau.

Stupid question time: which is the other province?

[spurly]

All provinces should push back like this

[Drewski Canuck]

ALBERTA BILL OF RIGHTS Revised Statutes of Alberta 2000
Chapter A-14
Preamble
WHEREAS the free and democratic society existing in Alberta is
founded on principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God and
on principles, fostered by tradition, that honour and respect human
rights and fundamental freedoms and the dignity and worth of the
human person;
WHEREAS the Parliament of Canada, being desirous of enshrining
certain principles and the human rights and fundamental freedoms
derived from them, enacted the Canadian Bill of Rights in order to
ensure the protection of those rights and freedoms in Canada in
matters coming within its legislative authority; and
WHEREAS the Legislature of Alberta, affirming those principles
and recognizing the need to ensure the protection of those rights
and freedoms in Alberta in matters coming within its legislative
authority, desires to enact an Alberta Bill of Rights;

Recognition and declaration of rights and freedoms
1 It is hereby recognized and declared that in Alberta there exist
without discrimination by reason of race, national origin, colour,
religion or sex, the following human rights and fundamental
freedoms, namely:

(a) the right of the individual to liberty, security of the person
and enjoyment of property, and the right not to be
deprived thereof except by due process of law;


Anyways, the Constitutional Division of Powers confers jurisdiction over personal property to the Provinces. Crime is Federal, so there in the nutshell is the dispute.

Lawful Gun Owners have a property right in their firearms, which are personal property. Lawful gun owners are not Criminals and should not be treated as such.

Well, at least not in a free and democratic Alberta. Maybe that is why Alberta should consider independence, besides being robbed by Quebec and Ontario.


Drewski

[Scott N]

The hypocrisy never ends.... watched some of the news yesterday and listened to Liberal politician dismissing Alberta's move as "purely political" while at the same time defending their so called "buyback" of legally owned property as good public safety policy.

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Demonical

Stupid question time: which is the other province?

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...=415174&page=2

Post #41 and there after.

If this doesn’t motivate you to join the CCFR, and this stay better informed, I don’t know what?

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Dick284

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...=415174&page=2

Post #41 and there after.

If this doesn’t motivate you to join the CCFR, and this stay better informed, I don’t know what?

I’m interested. Do you have a list of what they have accomplished with the funds they have collected?

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

I’m interested. Do you have a list of what they have accomplished with the funds they have collected?

Ah, Chuck, for a man of your experience, I’m surprised at your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject matter.

But I’ll play your game, not to pump your ego, but hopefully to help out those with less experience.

https://firearmrights.ca/why-join/

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Dick284

Ah, Chuck, for a man of your experience, I’m surprised at your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject matter.

But I’ll play your game, not to pump your ego, but hopefully to help out those with less experience.

https://firearmrights.ca/why-join/

Buyer beware. That sir is a nothing burger. We do not need paid lobbyists. We need results. So far I have seen nothing improve.

[1Heavyhitr]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Buyer beware. That sir is a nothing burger. We do not need paid lobbyists. We need results. So far I have seen nothing improve.

The CCFR’s accomplishments https://firearmrights.ca/why-join/

Seriously? So, “until” “something” “major” changes, you see no reason to get behind the most active organization fighting for firearms rights in Canada? How is that supposed to happen? Everyone bitches but few actually do something. Where’s the NFA? Supporting each other would be a good start (FUDDS). It’s money well spent and it’s sad for the cost of damn near a box of ammo more people don’t get on board. It’s no wonder firearms owners are up against the wall like we are. Liberals support every little special interest group they can willing to disarm us further while “we” have people sitting here saying what have you done for me lately.

The added insurance is a nice perk for starters.

- Developed a comprehensive insurance program, including $5 000 000 liability policy for ALL members, at no extra charge, a legal advice insurance product so firearms owners can get the tough questions answered by the most knowledgeable firearms law experts for a nominal annual fee ($16), and legal defense ($92) insurance that protects firearms owners from prosecution, using the most respected and knowledgeable legal team in Canada.

Being a part of a like-minded community is a hell of a lot better than standing alone. If every gun owner got behind “The paid lobbyists“ it might be a group that can actually lobby against something.

More provinces need to get on board and tell the Dildeau in Ottawa we’re not having it.

[Pathfinder76]

You do you.

[Twisted Canuck]

Manitoba has also joined AB and SK in letting Minister Mendocino know they will not be allocating resources for the confiscation of private property.

https://mobile.twitter.com/twilsonot...orWIbOXpMFmtLw

Brian Lilley also wrote a good piece on it.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...guns-he-banned

Remember when Bill Blair said this (article below)? Look at the date. Current developments just prove that they have no bloody idea how to implement their useless, expensive, virtue signalling political attack on gun owners. As more provinces join in, it will really put a stick in their spokes. And then the Feds can blame the province's for gun violence by not supporting the confiscation scheme.

https://thegunblog.ca/2020/11/27/bil...e-ministry-qa/

[Demonical]

Originally Posted by Dick284

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...=415174&page=2

Post #41 and there after.

If this doesn’t motivate you to join the CCFR, and this stay better informed, I don’t know what?

I did buy a membership, but I don't follow the daily baffle gab...

[IronNoggin]

Manitoba joins the party! No Provincial Resources for Firearms Confiscations​
September 29, 2022 by Web Admin Filed Under: CSSA Commentary, CSSA Special Reports

On September 28, Kelvin Goertzen, Manitoba Minister of Justice and Attorney General, joined Alberta and Saskatchewan in stating that provincially-funded and grossly understaffed RCMP personnel will not pander to the federal Liberal government’s virtue-signalling agenda.
“We feel many aspects of the federal approach to gun crimes unnecessarily target lawful gun owners,” Minister Goertzen wrote, “while having little impact on criminals, who are unlikely to follow gun regulations in any event.

“In Manitoba’s view, any buy-back program cannot further erode precious provincial police resources, already suffering from large vacancy rates, from focusing on investigation of violent crime.”

Three provinces in three days are now on record stating they want their province’s contracted RCMP members focused on investigating violent crimes and the criminals who commit them, not playing collection agents for the Liberal government.

“We will be bringing these concerns,” Minister Goertzen wrote, “along with the shared concern of Saskatchewan and Alberta, directly to the federal government next month in meetings of Ministers of Justice and Ministers of Public Safety.”

Saskatchewan Public Safety Minister Christine Tell, Alberta Justice Minister Tyler Shandro and Manitoba Justice Minister Kelvin Goertzen are unequivocal in their positions.

Provincially-funded RCMP personnel and resources will not be removed from the very real job of protecting and defending public safety in order to pander to the Liberal government’s latest “gun control” whim.

These three provinces clearly comprehend what Justin Trudeau and his Liberal ship of fools do not: Focusing on federally-licensed, RCMP-vetted firearm owners while ignoring violent repeat offenders is ridiculous – deserving of ridicule – and will not be tolerated.

The CSSA thanks Minister Kelvin Goertzen and the entire Manitoba government for their forward thinking, hard work and dedication on behalf of the firearms owners of Manitoba.

The West is grateful for your support.

https://cssa-cila.org/manitoba-joins...confiscations/

[AI 6.5]

Originally Posted by Scott N

The hypocrisy never ends.... watched some of the news yesterday and listened to Liberal politician dismissing Alberta's move as "purely political" while at the same time defending their so called "buyback" of legally owned property as good public safety policy.

Hypocrisy has no bounds with these morons!

[IronNoggin]

Posted to Horgan's FB Page this date:


The May 1, 2020 gun ban by Order in Council did nothing to make BC safer.
Confiscating firearms from licensed owners has no rational connection to any public safety goals.
There is no evidence or public safety principle to support these actions.
Their proposed confiscations are a disturbing use of billions of tax dollars for zero gain in public safety.
Ottawa had no plan when they announced their virtue-signalling gun ban and they have no plan today to confiscate the private property of BC'ers.
Do not permit Justin Trudeau’s federal government to offload their misguided policies onto the backs of BC'ers.
Do not permit Ottawa to force BC to pay for its failures
Join Tyler Shandro, Alberta Minister of Justice, and Christine Tell, Saskatchewan Minister of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety and oppose Ottawa’s overreach and, in so doing, support and defend all BC firearm owners!

[B C BILL]

I’m done with BC. Moving. To Sask.

[B C BILL]

I’m done with BC. Moving to Sask.

[IronNoggin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTCE_mc-xg

[IronNoggin]

Canadian Provinces Respond to Federal Gun Confiscation Plea: Pound Sand

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2022...lea-pound-sand

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

Posted to Horgan's FB Page this date....

Are you serious, a NDPer actually had that on the Facebook?
Publicly supporting gun owners?

An odd about face, as in 2020 you posted this, "His party later said in a statement that it “welcomes” the Throne Speech commitment to municipal handgun bans." regarding Horgan.

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by Trochu

Are you serious, a NDPer actually had that on the Facebook?

You misunderstood.
I posted that to his page.
He is unlikely to ever understand / respond.

Cheers,
Nog

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

You misunderstood.

I most certainly did!

Makes more sense now. I was almost impressed with him for a minute.