I've never had one, looked at them and handled them when I bought my .17...took a pass. A friend just bought a used savage with one on it, and he couldn't take it off fast enough. He absolutely hated it, particularily the eye relief and poor light transmission. My opinion...the .17 is such a great little calibre it deserves decent glass. I've got a Bausch and Lomb Elite 4200 on mine, and it's great.
Can't speak to the .223, but expect it's the same.....
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