Global Warming

[ice]

Since this is such a hot topic on this forum due to sundance and avb
I thought id post my own take onthe situation.
Since the portion of earth covered in water is 81%
that leaves 29% for humans to play with,
1% of that 29% is occupied by humans
Those units are nearly astronomically low.
on the terms of humans impact and their carbon footprint
It would take thousands of years to have a harsh impact on the planet
We could burn oil for nthousands of years and this planet would still be habitable. Yet this planet only holds 180ish years of oil. My question is why global warming is so terrible. We only have about 100!years of oil left,
And this planet is notorious for filtering itself. After we are finished burning our fuel why wont the planet clean it up?
The earth has been self sistainable for millions of years. Why do people think that it cant sustain itself now.
Its pretty clear. We are probobly at our planetary maximum. If the earth has to many people. It will start filtering them out...

[ice]

And it already is.
The earth has been around for millions of years.
Do you really think we can destroy it in 180 with what it gave us...

[ice]

It is enevitable that the earth will die. But what humans can acheive with their time here will likely reduce that time by .ooo1%

[whammy]

I don't think anybody thinks we will destroy the planet, but global warming WILL change the environment (and already has) enough to exterminate thousands of species. We might even be included in that one day, who knows!

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by whammy

I don't think anybody thinks we will destroy the planet, but global warming WILL change the environment (and already has) enough to exterminate thousands of species. We might even be included in that one day, who knows!

Climate change has been favouring and disfavouring species for millenia. Nothing new.

[whammy]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Climate change has been favouring and disfavouring species for millenia. Nothing new.

Certainly.

[ice]

Originally Posted by whammy

I don't think anybody thinks we will destroy the planet, but global warming WILL change the environment (and already has) enough to exterminate thousands of species. We might even be included in that one day, who knows!

The key reason people are worried about climate change is the runaway greenhouse effect, wich is extremely unlikely, and certainly unachievable by man

[ice]

Originally Posted by whammy

Certainly.

Species go extinct almost every day. It is part of earths cycle

[whammy]

Originally Posted by ice

The key reason people are worried about climate change is the runaway greenhouse effect, wich is extremely unlikely, and certainly unachievable by man

What makes you say that?

Originally Posted by ice

Species go extinct almost every day. It is part of earths cycle

You bet, but a higher rate of warming likely causes species to go extinct at a higher rate.

[ice]

Originally Posted by whammy

What makes you say that?




You bet, but a higher rate of warming likely causes species to go extinct at a higher rate.

Why? Because man would have to pump cfc's into the atmosphere for hundreds if not thousands of years, and we couldnt produce the materials fast enough

[ice]

Originally Posted by whammy

What makes you say that?




You bet, but a higher rate of warming likely causes species to go extinct at a higher rate.

Originally Posted by whammy

I don't think anybody thinks we will destroy the planet, but global warming WILL change the environment (and already has) enough to exterminate thousands of species. We might even be included in that one day, who knows!

Might be?
We will definatly be included in that one d
ay.
Mans only chance is to leave this planet.




Currently our governments spend nearly 100 times more on wars then space travel.
Its so sad that we would rather kill ourselves then ensure a long future for the human race

[huntingd]

Originally Posted by ice

Since this is such a hot topic on this forum due to sundance and avb
I thought id post my own take onthe situation.
Since the portion of earth covered in water is 81%
that leaves 29% for humans to play with,
1% of that 29% is occupied by humans
Those units are nearly astronomically low.
on the terms of humans impact and their carbon footprint
It would take thousands of years to have a harsh impact on the planet
We could burn oil for nthousands of years and this planet would still be habitable. Yet this planet only holds 180ish years of oil. My question is why global warming is so terrible. We only have about 100!years of oil left,
And this planet is notorious for filtering itself. After we are finished burning our fuel why wont the planet clean it up?
The earth has been self sistainable for millions of years. Why do people think that it cant sustain itself now.

Its pretty clear. We are probobly at our planetary maximum. If the earth has to many people. It will start filtering them out...

You lost me at 81 percent water leaving 29 percent left for humans.

[ice]

Originally Posted by huntingd

You lost me at 81 percent water leaving 29 percent left for humans.

29% of earth's "Land" is above water

[BeeGuy]

Well said Ice.

The environment is only as useful as the money I can make from it, and the pleasure I can take from it driving my various toys.

Can't stand the joke of protecting the environment or environmentalists.

Buncha hypocrites!

Finally a balanced opinion on this topic!

The environment will be fine and if not, then poor people will die, not me though I work hard for my family and drive truck so I will be spared.

[huntingd]

Originally Posted by ice

29% of earth's "Land" is above water

How can this be possible when 81 percent of it is under water?

[omega50]

81+29=what

[huntingd]

Originally Posted by omega50

81+29=what

110 percent awesome.

[ice]

Originally Posted by huntingd

How can this be possible when 81 percent of it is under water?

Lol

[ice]

My bad, apparently my math skills are off. 19 hahahaha

[ice]

Good work guys, 2+2=8 right?
I botched that hard hahaha

[ice]

Originally Posted by ice

Good work guys, 2+2=8 right?
I botched that hard hahaha

Originally Posted by huntingd

110 percent awesome.

I was accounting for the moon

[huntingd]

Originally Posted by ice

Good work guys, 2+2=8 right?
I botched that hard hahaha

I wouldn't worry about it. At least something finally got figured out on a global warming thread.

[Drewski Canuck]

Don't worry your fool head about the environment, worry about the fact that we have somehow quickly surpassed the 6 billion people mark, and are somewhere around 7 billion.

No amount of science and good farming will continue to feed these hordes. However, the rampant growth is not Europe, Australia, and North America, which incidentally are all basically peaceful.

So what happens when the masses, crowded in an unsustainable area, decide there are greener pastures, full of food, over here?

Now, crow on about global warming all you like. What the real issue is, and always has been, is the impact of an over populated nation, barely able to feed itself, that suffers some weather related calamity.

David Suzuki would have better served the world by having broadcast a program on birth control translated to Pakistani, Hindi, and Mandarin, and offered free birth control to third world nations mired in famine.

Drewski

[ice]

Originally Posted by huntingd

I wouldn't worry about it. At least something finally got figured out on a global warming thread.

^ this
Is signature worthy


Too funny

[Gslice]

thermohaline circulation. Google it.

[whammy]

Originally Posted by ice

Why? Because man would have to pump cfc's into the atmosphere for hundreds if not thousands of years, and we couldnt produce the materials fast enough

CFC...

[ice]

Originally Posted by whammy

CFC...

? We used to use them all the time for refrigeration but are now banned because of the harshness they have on our atmosphere

[From The Hip]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

Don't worry your fool head about the environment, worry about the fact that we have somehow quickly surpassed the 6 billion people mark, and are somewhere around 7 billion.

No amount of science and good farming will continue to feed these hordes. However, the rampant growth is not Europe, Australia, and North America, which incidentally are all basically peaceful.

So what happens when the masses, crowded in an unsustainable area, decide there are greener pastures, full of food, over here?

Now, crow on about global warming all you like. What the real issue is, and always has been, is the impact of an over populated nation, barely able to feed itself, that suffers some weather related calamity.

David Suzuki would have better served the world by having broadcast a program on birth control translated to Pakistani, Hindi, and Mandarin, and offered free birth control to third world nations mired in famine.

Drewski

But if Suzuki did that he would not only miss out on all the money he gets from speaking engagements for "climate change" he would also be out of pocket for the expence of 10 billion condoms.I figure the cost of 10 billion condoms buys an 8 million Vancouver mansion so we know what choice was made.

FTH

[Redfrog]

"Currently our governments spend nearly 100 times more on wars then space travel.
Its so sad that we would rather kill ourselves then ensure a long future for the human race"

"Don't worry your fool head about the environment, worry about the fact that we have somehow quickly surpassed the 6 billion people mark, and are somewhere around 7 billion."

Which is it people? One complains about too many people getting killed and one just about too many people.

And the next guy complains because the 'government' ain't doin' nuthin' about global warming. Looks like to me they are thinning the herd.

And I wouldn't worry about Ice's math. Some times you have to give 110%. Didn't you ever listen to your coach?

[waterninja]

Originally Posted by ice

29% of earth's "Land" is above water

ice, i think you have an extra 10% there somewhere. do we get to bring it with us when we rocket off into the solar system? i think i'm beginning to understand how greenhouse alarmists "do the math". lol