Sheep Gear List

[BackPackHunter]

There's always tons of posts and questions about what people take on mtn hunts
So let's post are gear lists here, so we can see different set ups

This will be my 2014 list (early season)

Pack... Kuiu 7200, modified
Pack cover.... Kuiu large
Sleeping Bag.... Marmot Plasma 40
Sleeping Pad.... Thermarest neoair xlite (might come might not)
Tent.... Kifaru Maga tarp, with annex modified & 6 Easton Ti pags
Spotter... Swarovski 20x60x65 HD
Tripod.... Slik Pro 624 modified
Binos.... Swarovski 8x42 EL Range with Kuiu harness
Scope... Swarovski Z5 3.5x18x44 BXR
Rifle... RMR 300 WSM Custom
Cooker.... Soto micro regulator stove
Pot... Snow Peaks TI 600ml
Spoon... Sea to Summit long Ti
GPS.... Garman 62 st

Might add a Ti Goat WiFi stove

Havlon knife
Med tape
50' fire line
Large sewing needle
Lip chap
Advil Ex- strength gel (lots)
Tums
Hand saw , was a 3" gerber, testing a couple different ones
Small bic lighters x3.. one in my pocket, the other 2 are in plastic bags in different parts of the pack
TP 2/3 roll in a heavy duty zip lock bag
Towel tabs
Camelback 3L
Sea to summit soap
Lots of bug dope!
After bite
Sea to summit head lap
Wiggy waders modified

Kuiu full rim hat
Sitka bennie
Sitka core bottoms
Sitka tee
Sitka long tee
Sitka pants ... Forget the name
Sitka Jetstream jacket
Kuiu super down jacket n pants
Kenatreck mid weight mtn socks x3
Silk liners x3
Mechanix 4x gloves
Boxers x2
Boots... Hanwags GTX 10" (looking for a change)
Sun glasses
StormFront rain gear
Kuiu Gaiters

Meat bag.... Kifaru hanging bag
Stuff sacks... Kifaru , 1 large , 1 small

Trekking poles... gossamer gear CF pole x2

Food
Mtn House
Cup a soup
Cliff bars
Jerky
Coffee
Apple sider
Drink mix


I have salt cashed in the areas I hunt so I no longer pack it

I also have a few cashes of food and fire , pot, stove , gas, tarp etc
So if something bad happens I have a back up plain
Marked with GPS


Might have forgot a few things as this is just off the top of my head
Board at work




I've told many people that the best thing I've ever bought for mtn hunting is a food scale,

Ounces add up to pounds
I take that a step farther ... Grams add up to oz

[BackPackHunter]

++++

gossamer gear ground sheet
Tooth brush & paste

[hwkirby]

NICE!!!! Very useful! Thanks for sharing!

[BackPackHunter]

++++

Ball Head .... Really Right Stuff 25 ultra light
Camera .... Samsung MV800
Water filter .... Sawyer squeeze filter modified to a MSR red 3L water bag

I use this camera because I hunt solo a lot, and I can attach it to the tripod
and flip the back up so I can see the photo about to be taken .
And it's light weight & small n takes good pics

I have tested tons of gear, and spend a lot of $ finding the lightest
Gear for the mountain, there's a reason for all the gear I use.

There's a lighter tripod out but it's 3x the price of mine
And I could lose a few pounds with a new gun....

Last year I was 55 pounds with gun and water weight included
This year I want to be under 50pounds .

[mad mountain mike]

Hey BPH last year you were kicking around the idea of using no shelter or bag, did you end up trying that? If so what are your thoughts on how it worked out?

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by mad mountain mike

Hey BPH last year you were kicking around the idea of using no shelter or bag, did you end up trying that? If so what are your thoughts on how it worked out?

I did do that.... Kinda
I used the Kifaru Maga tarp, that is only a slip tarp, I can use my trekking poles or wood as poles . I found it to be just as good if not better then my 1 man ultra light tent - no floor. I would build up n level the ground with moss, n add pine branches to sleep on , with no ground sheet.
I sleep in my clothes n rain gear, but even tho my R value was higher then a sleeping bag it was cold because where my leg where not touching and I lost body heat.
Plus side was two people with gear n bags could fit and still have room to add a small Ti stove.

This yr I added the marmot Plasma 40 sleeping bag (+4) and I will sleep in long under wear. And maybe some clothes depending on temp, this will lock in body heat, lost my not using a bag.

Still lighter then bringing the extra clothes ....

That tent with pegs is under 800 grams
Sleeping bag is around 500 grams

[mad mountain mike]

Thanks for the gear list and tips, your experience and knowledge is appreciated. This year I'm leaving the jet boil and fuel at home and taking a Seek Outside's
Ti-stove. The weight penalty will be around a pound but for me it'll be worth it having heat when I drag my old bones out of my bag in the morning.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by mad mountain mike

Thanks for the gear list and tips, your experience and knowledge is appreciated. This year I'm leaving the jet boil and fuel at home and taking a Seek Outside's
Ti-stove. The weight penalty will be around a pound but for me it'll be worth it having heat when I drag my old bones out of my bag in the morning.

Check out the Ti Goat stove (wifi might change ur mind)
Also the times u want hot water now, then stove is lacking in Heating time
Ie... If u want a fast hot breakfast, the Soto stove is like 30grams
Ill weight it after I unpack from my move. N u can bring a small 250ml gas for in that case.
Just a thought

[Saul Goode]

I myself have just recently got back into sheep hunting, so my gear list is more economical then most. But it still gets me out there.

Pack... MR Kodiak
Tent... TNF Flint 2
Sleeping Bag... Outbound Hybrid-Lite
Sleeping Pad... Thermarest (Not sure of model)
Spotter... Redfield Rampage 20x60x65
Tripod... Leupold ( not sure of model)
Bino's...Vortex Talon 10x42
Rifle...Wby Accu-Mark 340 wby.
Scope... Leupold vx3 4.5x14x44
Cooking... JetBoil Flash with 2 small fuel cannisters.
Spoon... sea to summit.
GPS... Garmin 62st
Camera... Sony ( not sure of model)
Knife... Havolon Piranta and Buck alasken series PBS.
Saw... Outdoor Edge folding.
Shirt... TNF
Sweater... Mtn. Hardware Micro-Chill Fleece.
Pants... Arc'teryx AR Gamma.
Jacket... Mtn Hardware softshell
Coat... Eddie Bauer Down ( Sport Model)
Rain Gear.... TNF Resolve Jacket/Pants.
Boots... Han Wags Alaskan GTX.
Socks... WigWams x3
Gaiters... OR Crocs
Hat.... Titleist ball cap
Toque... Addias.
Gloves... Mtn. Hardware torsion. OR flurry.
Pole.... Leki Makalu Summit.

Advil
Tums
TP
3 bic lighters, 1 in pocket, pack, tent.
Duct tape around fuel cannisters.
tinted safety glasses.
Sea to Summit stuff sacks, for food etc.
Large Garbage Bags.
Mtn House Meals.
Oatmeal
Cliff Bars
Power Bars
Beef Jerky
Cashews/Almonds/M&M's Mix
Crystal lite mix
Tea Bags.

I probably forgot a few things. I have no idea how much all this crap weights, and I will end up up-grading my optics and getting a lighter rifle this year hopefully. There are a lot of items I would like to up-grade, but for now this stuff has working out ok.

[fingershooter]

Hey, have any of you guys tried those wood gas stoves that were developed in Iskut B.C.? There are lots of plans on the net. Two small paint cans or soup cans and weigh about 6 oz. Supposed to boil 2 cu. water in 5 minutes using 2 oz of wood. I made and tried one and it takes a little longer. Nice thing about them is you don't have to pack fuel. There is always something out there to burn. I was thinking about using it if I ever go for Stone or Dall's sheep again.
they are called Bushbuddy, made by Fritz Handel.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by fingershooter

Hey, have any of you guys tried those wood gas stoves that were developed in Iskut B.C.? There are lots of plans on the net. Two small paint cans or soup cans and weigh about 6 oz. Supposed to boil 2 cu. water in 5 minutes using 2 oz of wood. I made and tried one and it takes a little longer. Nice thing about them is you don't have to pack fuel. There is always something out there to burn. I was thinking about using it if I ever go for Stone or Dall's sheep again.
they are called Bushbuddy, made by Fritz Handel.

thanks Al
the reveiws sound good
http://www.bushbuddy.ca/indexs.html

[fingershooter]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

thanks Al
the reveiws sound good
http://www.bushbuddy.ca/indexs.html

I think I made 5 or 6 of them in an hour. Not bad - disposable stoves.
Speaking of disposable stoves, I whipped off a few different beer can alcohol stoves and they work slick! 6 minutes to boil 2 cups of water, using 25 ml of alcohol. They weigh nothing and packing a cup (250ml) of alcohol, will boil you 20 cups of water, so enough for 5 days by my consumption.
I'm having fun trying this stuff out.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

I myself have just recently got back into sheep hunting, so my gear list is more economical then most. But it still gets me out there.


There are a lot of items I would like to up-grade, but for now this stuff has working out ok.

Thanks Saul,
I didn't start this thread as a pee-ing contest,
its just for ideas of the different stuff people use to get out in the hills
and to give upgrading ideas, as we can look up the products others have posted
and to ask questions about why someone is using something
or in my list i put modified by a few things, can ask how or why they did that

ie...
a lot of people dont know about
http://wiggys.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=5

i really like them for stream crossings
but i would spray them down with a heavy coat of silicone spray
also i would recommend buying the smaller size then what is recommend
it makes them harder to don n off but the tight fit helps to stop leaks

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by fingershooter

I think I made 5 or 6 of them in an hour. Not bad - disposable stoves.
Speaking of disposable stoves, I whipped off a few different beer can alcohol stoves and they work slick! 6 minutes to boil 2 cups of water, using 25 ml of alcohol. They weigh nothing and packing a cup (250ml) of alcohol, will boil you 20 cups of water, so enough for 5 days by my consumption.
I'm having fun trying this stuff out.

I see a lot of weight savings playing around with these ideas
but what about speed? my stove is only a couple 3 min to get 500ml boiled
i would be worried i would crush the beer can in my bag as i pack it small n tight

[bdub]

One luxury I like to pack sheep hunting when grouse are open is a Hammond game getter. Sure is nice to have fresh grouse at supper once in a while. Turns your rifle into a accurate pellet shooter, good enough to head shoot grouse at 25 yards or so. A fellow from around Edmonton used to or still does make them.

[BackPackHunter]

^^^^^^
I've been thinking of adding one
only thing thats been stoping me is the noise
how loud is it?

[bdub]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

^^^^^^
I've been thinking of adding one
only thing thats been stoping me is the noise
how loud is it?

It's the same as a .22 BPH noise wise. It uses a hilti blank as charge. I love mine. It shoots 2" below point aim at 25 yards in my rifle so I just hold on the top of their heads.

[Lr1000]

That sounds unreal. I'm sold!

[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

Thanks Saul,
I didn't start this thread as a pee-ing contest,
its just for ideas of the different stuff people use to get out in the hills
and to give upgrading ideas, as we can look up the products others have posted
and to ask questions about why someone is using something
or in my list i put modified by a few things, can ask how or why they did that

ie...
a lot of people dont know about
http://wiggys.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=5

i really like them for stream crossings
but i would spray them down with a heavy coat of silicone spray
also i would recommend buying the smaller size then what is recommend
it makes them harder to don n off but the tight fit helps to stop leaks

Sorry if I came across as though I was taking a shot at you BPH, that was not my intent. Those remarks I left in my post was just to let people know that they can still get out there with entry level gear. I enjoy reading your posts and gear lists for mountain hunting, you've obviously put a lot of time and effort in maximizing your gear with minimum weight. As I up grade my stuff I still refer back to your list as a reference for quality gear. Once again sorry for the mis-communication in my post.

[Saul Goode]

BPH what do you think of the Super Down Jacket/Pants. I was looking at these as well. Can you put your rain pants over them without feeling all bulked up. Is your jacket with the hood or without? Also how durable do they are ?

[boonerkiller]

Sheep Hunting Gear List

Clothes:
2 Pants cabela’s suede 1lb 7.5oz
1 Short sleeve shirt 5.3oz
1 Long sleeve shirt 8.8oz
1 Sweater 1lb 2oz 1 Jacket (light/medium)
2 Boxers 2.8oz
1 Long Underwear (season dependent) 8.7oz
3 Pair Wool socks (high ankle hiking socks, smart wool) 2.8oz/pair
1 Rain Coat 8.7oz
1 Rain Pant 6.4oz
1 Hat (optional) or Beanie 1.1oz
2 Gloves (1 Leather 4.7oz and 1 cotton type 2.1oz like mechanix or UnderArmour)
1 Crocs (stream corssing and wear in camp) 9.9oz
1 Glacier socks. (stream crossing) (optional) 12oz
1 Gators 12.8oz
1 Mountain Hiking Boots w moleskin and foot powder
1 Sunglasses

MISC:
1 Tent (per 2 people)5lbs 11oz * 1 Pack rain cover 4.3 oz
1 Sleeping Bag 1 Set hiking poles 1lb 3oz
1 Sleeping air pad 15.8 oz
1 First Aid kit with xtra Tylenol/Ibuprofen and tums 6.4oz *
1 Travel pillow 6.7oz
1 10m rope 1.2oz (1cm dia) 1 x 10m @ 2cm 3.8 oz
1 Tooth brush and paste 1 oz
1 Gitzo Tripod with RRSBH 2lb 2.4oz *
1 Shower Bag 2.8 oz *
1 Knife (field sharpener) 5.9oz
1 Shampoo (travel size) 1.9 oz 1 Set Fork and Spoon 3.2oz
1 Body wash (travel size) 1.5 oz 1 Headlamp 2.2oz
1 Camp soap (25ml) 2 oz 1 GPS 7.1oz *
1 MSR towel and face cloth 4oz 1 Bino’s 1lb 14oz,
1 range finder 9.1oz *
2 Spare Battery’s (2GPS/1HL) 3oz
1 Spotting Scope 3lbs 3.4oz *
1 Lighter 2.1oz 1 Camera 6oz
1 MSR stove 3.9oz Fuel 13.3oz *
1 Pot (boiling H2O) *
1 Camel Back 8.1oz 1 lb Salt/ person (hide curing)
1 Survival Blanket 2.8 oz 1 Bowl 0.3oz
2 1L H2O Bottles E-6oz F-2lbs 11oz
1 Tikka Lite, w/clip 3shell 8lbs 10oz - 5 shell 5.8oz
2 Wet Ones Travel Packs 2oz 1 Roll TP 2.3oz
1 Sheep Tag and Hunting License
1 Spare bike tire tube (if biking stays on bike)
1 Satellite Phone 9.4oz * 1 Chapstick 0.4oz

Food:
28 Crystal Light Drink mix packs 3.9oz 8 Mountain House Dinners 2lb 4oz
7 Instant Oatmeal Packs 1 1lb Beef Jerky
1 1kg Trail Mix 12 Chocolate Bars 1lb 9oz
12 Sweet n Salty Bars 1 MSR water Filter 8.7oz * 2 Packs Gum 3oz

* Indicates shared Items *

[Albertadiver]

While not a sheep hunter myself, this is a fantastic thread for those who enjoy backpacking. I'm going to keep this one handy for this summer and fall!

Thanks for sharing

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

Sorry if I came across as though I was taking a shot at you BPH, that was not my intent. Those remarks I left in my post was just to let people know that they can still get out there with entry level gear. I enjoy reading your posts and gear lists for mountain hunting, you've obviously put a lot of time and effort in maximizing your gear with minimum weight. As I up grade my stuff I still refer back to your list as a reference for quality gear. Once again sorry for the mis-communication in my post.

I didn't take it that way,
I just wanted to put it out there for the entry level guys to post there lists

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

BPH what do you think of the Super Down Jacket/Pants. I was looking at these as well. Can you put your rain pants over them without feeling all bulked up. Is your jacket with the hood or without? Also how durable do they are ?

I like the super down a lot more then the Sitka kelvin
I don't have the hood as I fine to many make it bulky
A hood on a rain jacket is a must for me
N my Jetstream has a hood too.

[BackPackHunter]

Thanks for the list Booner
I'll post my weights next month after I unpack from the move

[bull master]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

I see a lot of weight savings playing around with these ideas
but what about speed? my stove is only a couple 3 min to get 500ml boiled
i would be worried i would crush the beer can in my bag as i pack it small n tight

I use the jet oil stove. Boils two cups of water in two minutes or less and a can of fuel lasts me five days with room to spare. Very light and never let's me down. Plus the coffee press works awsome!!! My new Browning mountain TI in 300 wsm will knock a couple pounds off as well this fall.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by bull master

I use the jet oil stove. Boils two cups of water in two minutes or less and a can of fuel lasts me five days with room to spare. Very light and never let's me down. Plus the coffee press works awsome!!! My new Browning mountain TI in 300 wsm will knock a couple pounds off as well this fall.

Coffee is a must for me, and I've spent a lot on finding the perfect cup for the mtn. Tried the press and different filters, brewed/instant , how to pack sugar , whiter etc...
Although I wouldn't drink this stuff at home even if it all I had
On the mtn is what I take, because of it of its speed n ease

http://www.nescafe.com/product_detai...om.axcms?Id=74


Next years gun for me is a Kimber Asent 280ai
This will save me 2 pounds ....

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

BPH what do you think of the Super Down Jacket/Pants. I was looking at these as well. Can you put your rain pants over them without feeling all bulked up. Is your jacket with the hood or without? Also how durable do they are ?

For got to answer part of your question....

When needed I put it over my outer layer when cold n not moving
If I was walking threw thick stuff I wouldn't want this to be my outer layer because it's not tuff(not meant to be)
I don't find it to bulky under my rain gear, I'm very big on layering so I buy my gear with this in mind, n my rain gear is bigger then the rest of my gear to compensate for this, if your rain gear is tight now, it will be tighter with the SD

Kuiu n Sitka are shaped for athletic builds, if you got a beer gut it will make things tighter.... Just to keep in mind....
Best to try it on when u see it to get a idea what size you are

OH ... I got a mint Sitka Kelvin Set in med for sale !

[BackPackHunter]

Tips.....

Most people pack salt.
I pack salt in square plastic juice jugs (ease of packing)
When it's time to leave and I didn't get to use it, I hide it under wood or moss
mark it with gps, now I never pack salt. Or take it in on a scouting trip

A small iPod will help you to keep glassing when it gets boring
(Should only do this where a bear couldn't sneak up on you)

Go and talk to a taxidermist and ask about the cuts to make and caping out
If you are not comfortable turning ears n eye lids leave the skull in
Plain your trip out, and stay out of the sun, get up early and stay out later
And plain your breaks during the hottest times of the day.

If you are solo and have to pack out a ram, it's very hard to do it in one trip with all your gear if you keep all the meat .
I leap frog it out, take the meat to a spot then hide it on a cool spot
Then go back for the head cape n camp, then take it past the meat n hide it go back for the meat and so on.
When hiding meat, camp, head, cape, make sure the spot it's put in you can see it from a good ways away, you don't want to surprise a bear getting a free lunch.

Try to find things that will do more then one job
ie, I only bring 6 tent pegs , I will use sticks or rocks for the rest
I can use my trekking poles as tent poles or wood that's around if I'm leaving the tent up.
My water filter also holds 3L of water if I need it.


Most importation thing........ 1....Is mentally tuff
2.... Endurance
3... Cardio

I've seen people with endurance n cardio, just come unglued because they didn't have #1

[whitetailsheds]

It doesn't happen alot, but when it does it sure is nice to have something to do if you get "weathered in".
On a 20 day back pack trip for Dalls in the Tatshenshini, partner and I got stuck in the tent for two 36 hour stints a week apart.......sweet mother of pearl!!!
Each of us took a book and he packed deck of cards.........ended up reading each others book. And I lost a $#% load of rum.....damn cards!!!
Helped keep us sane!!!