Guns used in Nova Scotia shooting revealed

[Big Sky]

From the National Post

The briefing note to the prime minister, obtained through access to information, shows Wortman had a “Colt Law Enforcement Carbine,” a semi-automatic weapon similar to the rifles issued to RCMP officers.

He was also carrying a Ruger mini-14, a semi-automatic rifle that was also used during the Montreal massacre. Both weapons were banned by the Liberals in May.

According to the briefing memo, the Colt was sourced to a California gun shop and was illegally smuggled into Canada. The mini-14 was purchased legally in Canada, but it is unlikely it was bought by Wortman who did not have any firearms licence.

Wortman was also carrying two additional pistols; a Glock GmbH semi-automatic pistol and a Ruger P89 semi-automatic pistol, which were both smuggled in from Maine.

Read the entire article here.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-mass-murderer

[IR_mike]

Glad it only took 7 months to ID them.

[Sundancefisher]

Need to add another item to the gun ban then is what you are suggesting.

I got it. The first line item in the amended list is...

“Any illegally smuggled gun from the US”

lol. The Liberals are classic. Find an enemy to point to and distract from their blackface, WE Scandal, SNC Scandal, and on and on. Move the walnut shells until the apathetic public loses attention.

[Crankbait]

Caught a snip on the radio that he's not guilty by reason of not being aware of his actions or some such thing,, though above says he smuggled firearms in from US,, how was he unaware of his actions while going through the actions?
[Rhetorical]

[nimrod]

Well after reading the article , the gun that was used by the shooter, was the same gun used to shoot the shooter, one is illegal for the everyone now, but the other is not, used by the police

[elkhunter11]

The whole incident was a mess. RCMP officers opening fire on another officer and a bystander, outside of the fire hall and then taking off without even checking to see if they hit anyone. Only luck and poor shooting skills by the officers prevented more people from being killed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...WSMozPm3ivFo9U

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Crankbait

Caught a snip on the radio that he's not guilty by reason of not being aware of his actions or some such thing,, though above says he smuggled firearms in from US,, how was he unaware of his actions while going through the actions?
[Rhetorical]

The case you're referring to isn't the Wortman case that the above article is about.

[Sundog57]

Yep
Their sole purpose to to "kill the largest number of people in the shortest period of time"
That's why the Toronto Police were the first force in Canada to get them - shortly after Bill Blair retired. Knowing how government procurement works it was well underway under his mandate.
Kind of makes you wonder though how it is that the Mounties are getting geared up with these weapons of mass murder under Blair's watch...
Of course given the events at the Onslow firehall it's probably a good thing they haven't yet learned how to shoot.

Of course it could just be that the C8 is a perfectly rational choice for the Police and that Blair's lying about the use and design of the firearm for crass political gain... Nah that can't be right.

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by Crankbait

Caught a snip on the radio that he's not guilty by reason of not being aware of his actions or some such thing,, though above says he smuggled firearms in from US,, how was he unaware of his actions while going through the actions?
[Rhetorical]

So was the guy on the greyhound who cut the kid's head off and the Degrood kid, the sad thing is they will all be released in the blink of an eye instead of being locked up for life like they should be.

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Sundog57

Yep
Their sole purpose to to "kill the largest number of people in the shortest period of time"
That's why the Toronto Police were the first force in Canada to get them - shortly after Bill Blair retired. Knowing how government procurement works it was well underway under his mandate.
Kind of makes you wonder though how it is that the Mounties are getting geared up with these weapons of mass murder under Blair's watch...
Of course given the events at the Onslow firehall it's probably a good thing they haven't yet learned how to shoot.

Of course it could just be that the C8 is a perfectly rational choice for the Police and that Blair's lying about the use and design of the firearm for crass political gain... Nah that can't be right.

I agree with you Sundog. I often wonder why regular non-firearm owning Canadians aren't more concerned with the various LEO organizations being armed with Colt ARs "when their sole purpose is to kill as many people in as little time as possible." It couldn't be all one big lie, could it?

[Jack&7]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

The whole incident was a mess. RCMP officers opening fire on another officer and a bystander, outside of the fire hall and then taking off without even checking to see if they hit anyone. Only luck and poor shooting skills by the officers prevented more people from being killed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...WSMozPm3ivFo9U

This part of the story still really gets under my skin. And still, silence from the RCMP.

[glen moa]

Hey only certified competent well trained should have those guns.
Now tell me more about the opening fire on another cop and bystander.

[Crankbait]

Originally Posted by Scott N

The case you're referring to isn't the Wortman case that the above article is about.

My bad, wrong New/Nova. Good catch.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by glen moa

Hey only certified competent well trained should have those guns.
Now tell me more about the opening fire on another cop and bystander.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...WSMozPm3ivFo9U

But when shots rang out at the Onslow fire hall, the man responsible for those deaths wasn't there. Two Mounties fired at one of their own as well as a bystander who was close to the hall near a parked RCMP cruiser.

[urban rednek]

While everyone is focused on what the criminal did, on the mistakes made by the RCMP on scene, and the "us versus them" firearm classification system, this little tidbit of information gets ignored:

Newly obtained documents also reveal all of the weapons were illegally obtained, three of them smuggled across the U.S. border.
The details are contained in a briefing note given to the prime minister just days after the shooting.

I think they are the most important revelations in this article; the rest of it having been covered previously. Sparkle socks knew the firearms used in this crime were obtained illegally in another country just days after it happened, yet he used this crime as an excuse to justify further firearms restrictions on lawful owners.

[6.5 shooter]

“He had no intention of following the law, so banning firearms, banning semi automatic rifles and handguns would not have stopped him,” he said. “There are strict storage and transportation regulations that go along with those firearms. So there’s a lot of boxes and regulations in place already that this individual did not check.”

But don't let the facts get in the way of a Lieberal gun ban.

[Pioneer2]

Absolutely.Soon to be a communist police state.A Czech acquaintance who lived under communism sees the same pattern evolving here.

[IronNoggin]

The RCMP had been tipped off about Wortman and his illegal guns, his threats of violence against families and neighbours, and they did nothing. A legal gun owner facing the kinds of accusations leveled against Wortman would have seen their home raided and firearms seized, but nothing was ever done about Wortman.

Why remains a mystery, one we will hopefully find out more about during the public inquiry that is now underway.

Why Trudeau linked this massacre and his gun ban agenda is now crystal clear though — pure, partisan politics and nothing else. Shame on him.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...-smuggled-guns

[hilt134]

He also used a policewoman handgun if I'm right. Which he took after killing her. Unfortunately unless we go fully british this will always be a source for a handgun.

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

Absolutely.Soon to be a communist police state.A Czech acquaintance who lived under communism sees the same pattern evolving here.

My mother was born in Czechoslovakia and immigrated to Canada in the 1970s. She has been saying this for at least 15 years!

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by fordtruckin

My mother was born in Czechoslovakia and immigrated to Canada in the 1970s. She has been saying this for at least 15 years!

I have two friends from there as well, he was a tank driver in the military... they have been saying the same thing for years as well and to be blunt they are both terrified ( I would use the more accurate term but would get me banned) that Canadians are allowing this to happen as well.
But most will stick their collective heads up their and ignore it till it happens.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

“He had no intention of following the law, so banning firearms, banning semi automatic rifles and handguns would not have stopped him,” he said. “There are strict storage and transportation regulations that go along with those firearms. So there’s a lot of boxes and regulations in place already that this individual did not check.”

But don't let the facts get in the way of a Lieberal gun ban.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

The RCMP had been tipped off about Wortman and his illegal guns, his threats of violence against families and neighbours, and they did nothing. A legal gun owner facing the kinds of accusations leveled against Wortman would have seen their home raided and firearms seized, but nothing was ever done about Wortman.

Why remains a mystery, one we will hopefully find out more about during the public inquiry that is now underway.

Why Trudeau linked this massacre and his gun ban agenda is now crystal clear though — pure, partisan politics and nothing else. Shame on him.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...-smuggled-guns

There was some mention that Wortman was a paid informant for the RCMP. Go figure.
There are some local thieves who couldn't get away with what they've been doing for years if they weren't police informants.
Whitey Bulger comes to mind.
Just who are the criminals?

[glen moa]

Why did he get the $475g out ??

[barsik]

Originally Posted by glen moa

Why did he get the $475g out ??

easy question to answer, who carries large sums of cash to take care of business.

[glen moa]

Ya but why pay when going killing?