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Old 11-22-2020, 10:20 AM
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Obviously I don't know if there was voter fraud or not. But it does seem very possible.

The biggest public radio organization, in the USA, NPR, had this to say about the situation.



Bolding is mine, to highlight the more interesting observations.



In light of the efforts the Democrats made to remove Trump from office all through his term and starting before he was even elected, I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect they may have rigged this election.

The fact that there is no proof of that, yet, does nothing to prove it didn't happen.


The BBC went even further suggesting that they believe there was widespread vote fraud in the recent US election.

It's only the democrats and left leaning media that continue to claim there is no proof therefore it is not possible.

We all know that most if not all criminal investigations start with little or no proof to back the accusations.
You realize the 1.8 million and 24 million numbers are from 2012?

You also realize Trump had a task force to look into it and found nothing.

Plenty of fact checking for you.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/tr...-fraud-claims/

BBC also has said their was no voting issues. If you need the link again...let us know. It’s been posted before.
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:27 AM
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Why on Earth do you think this stuff is credible...? Why? Just because it supports what you want?


Do you honestly think ALL those judges that threw out or dismissed cases are all ‘in on it’ as well?...... judges...? The key cases and legal disputes would have stood up in at least SOME of the courts... but sadly no.

Don’t you think that’s the tiniest bit delusioned?

..... just a bit?

Maybe...?



I’ll bet you got sum real angry in ya. Best to stay in the basement.
It is crazy.. Trumps own task force to root out voter corruption found NOTHING. But then he says he lost, won’t give the game ball back to the ump...sits on home plate and stamps his feet and these guys flock to him. Incredible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres...tion_Integrity
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:44 AM
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Who says it's not factual? The mainstream media the democrats?? ok then.


Trump mastered making his sheeple think every bit of media that displayed any negativity was”fake news” He built a tunnel visioned base that automatically thinks every thing that does not praise him is from a bias against him source. Some media is completely unbiased in reporting.

It’s amazing that he nearly got a second term through blind faith. And now, they’re giving money to his fight. He should have been a televangelist.

Trump lover default thought. “If it shows even a fraction of poor action by Trump, it is fake news , left media”
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Trump mastered making his sheeple think every bit of media that displayed any negativity was”fake news” He built a tunnel visioned base that automatically thinks every thing that does not praise him is from a bias against him source. Some media is completely unbiased in reporting.

It’s amazing that he n army got a second term through blind faith.
Yup - the same type of obvious propaganda that has been used in many regimes, by many tyrannical governments and dictators over history.

Followers are exactly that - sheep - who have marched so long in complete obedience and blindness - they no longer possess the critical intellectual capacity to challenge common sense.

It truly is amazing how weak, malleable and suggestible the mind of the willing masses really is.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:02 AM
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Yup - the same type of obvious propaganda that has been used in many regimes, by many tyrannical governments and dictators over history.

Followers are exactly that - sheep - who have marched so long in complete obedience and blindness - they no longer possess the critical intellectual capacity to challenge common sense.

It truly is amazing how weak, malleable and suggestible the mind of the willing masses really is.
EZ.....

I’m thinkin we’re all that susceptible and malleable.

Just look at marketing agencies.

I’m reading a lot of interesting psychology stuff that suggests we are all more ‘sheeply’ than any of us like to believe.

It disturbs me a lot.....
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:08 AM
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Trump mastered making his sheeple think every bit of media that displayed any negativity was”fake news” He built a tunnel visioned base that automatically thinks every thing that does not praise him is from a bias against him source. Some media is completely unbiased in reporting.

It’s amazing that he nearly got a second term through blind faith. And now, they’re giving money to his fight. He should have been a televangelist.

Trump lover default thought. “If it shows even a fraction of poor action by Trump, it is fake news , left media”
Exactly. Fox News is hardly liberal. They recognized the voting facts and then Trump turned on them also.

Only 25% of the money people are giving is slated to the election fight. 75% goes to Trumps personal slush fund. One would think that would raise eyebrows. But crickets from the gullible. Trump is a master manipulator. I give him full cudos for that.
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Who says it's not factual? The mainstream media the democrats?? ok then.
The Republican secretary of state in charge of the election process...

But hey you probably think he is a democrat in disguise because he refuses to rig the election for Trump...

They counted GA votes by hand, matched the Dominion machine count...

Does your head hurt from watching all those baseless conspiracy theory videos?
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EZ.....

I’m thinkin we’re all that susceptible and malleable.

Just look at marketing agencies.

I’m reading a lot of interesting psychology stuff that suggests we are all more ‘sheeply’ than any of us like to believe.

It disturbs me a lot.....
Until you consider that our entire social, economic existence is based on consumerism. Without the herd of consumers, everything goes away.
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You realize the 1.8 million and 24 million numbers are from 2012?

You also realize Trump had a task force to look into it and found nothing.

Plenty of fact checking for you.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/tr...-fraud-claims/

BBC also has said their was no voting issues. If you need the link again...let us know. It’s been posted before.
Well now, so back in 2012 the system was all messed up. That's like a bazillion years ago right?

Yup for decades it's been that way but when Trump gets elected it magically gets fixed. Are you looking to buy a bridge?
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EZ.....

I’m thinkin we’re all that susceptible and malleable.

Just look at marketing agencies.

I’m reading a lot of interesting psychology stuff that suggests we are all more ‘sheeply’ than any of us like to believe.

It disturbs me a lot.....
True enough ... but marketing for a cup of coffee or the latest model sedan is one thing - BUT - the destruction of a democracy and the destabilization of the world's largest economy, most powerful military and one that is on our southern border is troubling.

I'm also of the mindset that we, as individuals, must purposely, deliberately, and with a pragmatic thought process must evaluate news sources and decide what are probable "facts".

We can no longer allow ourselves to consume a limited cross section of news - I purposefully set out to consume a wide cross section of reporting so I get a couple different angles on a subject.

Unfortunately most people will not.

The patterns of the destruction of a democracy and installation of a dictatorship are always similar ....

- The attempt to discredit and/or demonize free media

- The attempt to discredit and/or demonize law enforcement and government agencies

- Discrediting and demonizing opponents or present political systems

- the immediate and ruthless removal of any perceived disloyal administration and support positions who would contradict or challenge his/her authority

- A minimization of the impacts of a crisis like starvation, the economy or disease

- The denouncing of fair elections


I think I'm seeing a very familiar pattern here .......
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