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Old 11-23-2021, 04:32 PM
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Hello. Figured this would be a good forum to ask with all the hunters. I'm looking at buying a cargo van for a camper and looking for input.

First of all, what would you use for insulation without breaking the bank? Bats? Rigid? I hear thinsulate would be best but it doesn't exactly come cheap.

Furnace or buddy heater? I have a small buddy heater, just don't know if I should be using it in a very enclosed and insulated space. I will be using a CO2 meter.

What else should be on the list? Fire extinguisher for sure.
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:37 PM
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I'd buy a mid 90s dodge camper van for under $5000 and then update it.

All the design and function done properly
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:44 PM
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Yeah, looking for something older that I can actually work on mechanically.

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I'd buy a mid 90s dodge camper van for under $5000 and then update it.

All the design and function done properly
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:32 PM
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I'd buy a mid 90s dodge camper van for under $5000 and then update it.

All the design and function done properly
I’d do the same.

A buddy stripped down a Sprinter van and converted it to a RV but it was insanely expensive by the time he was done. He only went this way because he was traveling down to Mexico each year and he wanted to look like a delivery van and not a RV.
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:34 PM
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I'd buy a mid 90s dodge camper van for under $5000 and then update it.

All the design and function done properly
If you can find one for that price let me know.lol

Have you seen what people are asking for them? Crazy more like $15.000.00

Good idea though.

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Old 11-23-2021, 05:41 PM
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I think a Chinese diesel heater is the only way to go.
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:51 PM
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Buy an old ambulance.
Already insulated.
I ran one for a work truck and it was awesome.
Alberta government surplus online auctions.
Looks like there's only 1 on there right now.
https://surplus.gov.ab.ca/OA/ItemLis...?categoryID=60
(Thats where I bought mine)

Or if you're interested in an 07 chevy ambulance with blown transmission seals, have i got a deal for you...
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:55 PM
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If you are thinking of a cargo van don’t cut corners insulating it. If cold is the wicked witch of the north, condensation inside a van is her ****ed off wet sister.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:13 PM
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What about doing a small cargo trailer like a 7x12? Easy to tow, can leave it at campsite and your around. Could put a decent awning on it. Could stand up inside. Probable a lot easier to finish the interior as the walls are straight not curved like a van. Register it once and done.
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Look on You tube there are tons of videos on how to camperize a van from types of insulation to battery set up and beds.
Some are pretty cool.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:41 PM
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Look on You tube there are tons of videos on how to camperize a van from types of insulation to battery set up and beds.
Some are pretty cool.
Whilst you’re on the internet google hippie killers.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:43 PM
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For heat definatly do a Chinese diesel heater. Just install one in my truck box and spent 3 nights in it. Was 18 °c all night on low. Burnt 5 liters diesel over 3 nights. Only way to go.
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:55 PM
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Dewey, I also thought a retired ambulance would make a cool camper, as far as electrical goes, they’re probably already over-wired. Of course some lithium-ion batteries and an inverter would be in order if you’re not going to idle it constantly like gov’t employees do when burning gov’t fuel. A 4x4 conversion would be cool too. I think the main drawback though is the low roof height. A 14’ dually cube van with a 4x4 conversion would rock, they have good inside height & you can keep it looking like a delivery or utility truck if you’re into the ‘stealth’ thing as was earlier suggested. The flat walls would be much easier to insulate & trim out the interior.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:47 PM
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For heat definatly do a Chinese diesel heater. Just install one in my truck box and spent 3 nights in it. Was 18 °c all night on low. Burnt 5 liters diesel over 3 nights. Only way to go.
Did you cut holes in the bed or run the exhaust through factory holes? I have one in my utility trailer/truck cap camper but hope to build a truck cap camper next year. Unfortunately I only ended up staying in it one night hunting so the diesel didn’t get used up. Guess I’m camping in my driveway this winter!
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Old 11-24-2021, 06:56 AM
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Where you buying chinese diesel heaters at,looking at getting one,they look like they would be handy.Is there any smell of diesel.
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:59 AM
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Still thinking about insulation.

And what about toileting? I've heard of using coconut fiber, anyone try this?
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:16 AM
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Still thinking about insulation.

And what about toileting? I've heard of using coconut fiber, anyone try this?
I tried it once but it was even scratchier than burlap.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:27 AM
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Still thinking about insulation.

And what about toileting? I've heard of using coconut fiber, anyone try this?
I had to google that, didn't even know that was a thing. I think most guys just use the log style design about 50 yards or so from their set up.
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I tried it once but it was even scratchier than burlap.
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:32 PM
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I had to google that, didn't even know that was a thing. I think most guys just use the log style design about 50 yards or so from their set up.
That is for those composting toilets, IIRC. Folks use Cocunut Coir or peat...

For me, I don't know if one of those would keep up...
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:36 PM
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Where you buying chinese diesel heaters at,looking at getting one,they look like they would be handy.Is there any smell of diesel.
I got mine off Amazon. All the fuel connections leaked but once I replaced the clamps and a different filter it’s not leaking anymore. I have the tank mounted inside the “camper and don’t have smell issues.
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Are these the diesel heaters everyone is talking about?
https://www.amazon.ca/VEVOR-Detachab...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

(First one on Amazon when i search "diesel heater")
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:57 PM
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When I built mine years ago I put foam board on the floor under 3/4" plywood.
I used fiberglass along the walls behind wood paneling.
I installed a propane furnace, 3-way fridge (with freezer) and propane stove.

I installed a propane tank underneath
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:08 PM
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Are these the diesel heaters everyone is talking about?
https://www.amazon.ca/VEVOR-Detachab...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

(First one on Amazon when i search "diesel heater")
Those are basically the same but they have the fuel tank and heater mounted together under the tin. Apparently there is a smaller (2kw) ones. My review of it is the one by the name of “J.”

8KW 12V All-in-One Diesel Air... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08M9SM2VN?...p_mob_ap_share
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:55 PM
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I have a Propex Heater in my GFC and it is awesome. Intake and outake underneath the truck (at different ends) so no need to worry about carbon monoxide. Zero condensation. I've got it hooked up to a thermostat so i can keep it at 20c all night if needed.

https://propexcanada.com/product/hs2...wn-air-heater/
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:34 PM
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Are these the diesel heaters everyone is talking about?
https://www.amazon.ca/VEVOR-Detachab...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

(First one on Amazon when i search "diesel heater")
I have one very similar to this. All I can say is that it does make heat. Haven't field tested it and can't report on longevity.

I plan to use it like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlKXaET18E

Just plumbed the heat vent into a camper instead of a tent.

Propane tends to freeze up when it's really cold. I like options....
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I have a Propex Heater in my GFC and it is awesome. Intake and outake underneath the truck (at different ends) so no need to worry about carbon monoxide. Zero condensation. I've got it hooked up to a thermostat so i can keep it at 20c all night if needed.

https://propexcanada.com/product/hs2...wn-air-heater/

I built a teardrop trailer last year and installed a propex. Worth every penny.
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Old 11-24-2021, 06:31 PM
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What about doing a small cargo trailer like a 7x12? Easy to tow, can leave it at campsite and your around. Could put a decent awning on it. Could stand up inside. Probable a lot easier to finish the interior as the walls are straight not curved like a van. Register it once and done.
This guy^^^^^^^
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Old 11-25-2021, 06:43 AM
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I had to google that, didn't even know that was a thing. I think most guys just use the log style design about 50 yards or so from their set up.
Getting too old to be exposing body parts to the elements. Liking the idea of a composting toilet
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Old 11-25-2021, 08:23 AM
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Getting too old to be exposing body parts to the elements. Liking the idea of a composting toilet
The problem in my mind with them is that if they freeze, the composting bacteria etc die.

Try an incinolet but then you need power. Works well though.
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