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Buying a SUV with repaired flood damage
Found a 2016 GMC Terrain (only 55Kms) at a dealer for $6K below retail because of
Description of Loss: Partial Submerged/Flooding $13,315 in repairs.
The loss occurred in 2016 when the SUV was only 3 months old, the dealer says because it was less than one year old all new carpets, parts and seats were installed.
There is no obvious sign of damage anywhere it runs and drives perfect no smell or anything.
What do think a Partial sunken treasure or flotsam and jetsam ?
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11-17-2020, 06:30 AM
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Not enough incentive
Whether it was clean or dirty water, being submerged is hard on the mechanical equipment...but it is disastrous to all the electronic components and connections. Has the potential to cause all kinds of long term electrical gremlins.
I don't think a $6K discount is anywhere near enough to cover the possibility it could turn into a money pit; even if they are offering you an extended manufacturers (not dealer) warranty. The aggravation factor might be too high.
Maybe, with a deeper discount and an iron clad lemon clause written into the purchase contract.
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11-17-2020, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by urban rednek
Whether it was clean or dirty water, being submerged is hard on the mechanical equipment...but it is disastrous to all the electronic components and connections. Has the potential to cause all kinds of long term electrical gremlins.
I don't think a $6K discount is anywhere near enough to cover the possibility it could turn into a money pit; even if they are offering you an extended manufacturers (not dealer) warranty. The aggravation factor might be too high.
Maybe, with a deeper discount and an iron clad lemon clause written into the purchase contract.
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Vehicles like that down here generally get re titled with a salvage title. For good reason.
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11-17-2020, 06:54 AM
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I would be very concerned about the electronics/electrical components failing prematurely due to the exposure to water.
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11-17-2020, 06:59 AM
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I would be very concerned about the electronics/electrical components failing prematurely due to the exposure to water.
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This. RUN AWAY FAST!
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11-17-2020, 07:03 AM
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I would be very concerned about the electronics/electrical components failing prematurely due to the exposure to water.
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I talked to a body shop technician he said in most cases clean rain water over the rocker panels flooding the interior but not as high as the dash would be repaired otherwise it would be a total loss any contact with dirty water (slough) would also justify a write off.
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11-17-2020, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bat119
I talked to a body shop technician he said in most cases clean rain water over the rocker panels flooding the interior but not as high as the dash would be repaired otherwise it would be a total loss any contact with dirty water (slough) would also justify a write off.
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When rain or flood water is a few feet deep, it has been flowing, picking up contaminants, and it isn't as clean as you might think.
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11-17-2020, 07:12 AM
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Dude, that thing may have went ice fishing!!!
Move on 
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11-17-2020, 07:21 AM
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Dude, that thing may have went ice fishing!!!
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LOL I think it's time to move on
I can't help thinking about the guy that bought a brand new car only to have it flooded, the insurance company fixed it instead of writing it off, you lost 25% plus you're stuck with an albatross nobody wants.
I don't think rolling the dice is a good idea.
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11-17-2020, 07:24 AM
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See that hill over there...run for it..
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11-17-2020, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
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I would be very concerned about the electronics/electrical components failing prematurely due to the exposure to water.
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11-17-2020, 07:35 AM
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buddy forget it right now unless you really want aggravation by the truck load!!!
First of all all of the above comments are true.
Second, sure your getting a very marginal deal however unless you are going to keep it till end of vehicle life ( which probably will be short at best) when you try to resale, its value will be diminished as its probably been registered with car fax as a flood vehicle equaling a zero value to a prospective buyer, and no dealer is going to touch that thing for the same reason.
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11-17-2020, 07:46 AM
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if the water touched the bottom of the dash it is illegal in alberta to have it repaired.
There is a law here for flood damage, mold grows in the electrical in the safety systems of the car, and it must be written off and crushed, cannot be even sold for parts.
Not sure if this is a shady dealer, but there is no way I would ever buy one that has water damage.
Too many hidden problems can come up.
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11-17-2020, 07:52 AM
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Dont buy it
Electrical gremilins are the most expensive kind
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11-17-2020, 07:57 AM
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Electrical gremlins are the hardest to diagnose. ask me how I know.
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11-17-2020, 07:59 AM
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Flood
If the water was that high, your entire driveline was under water. Your trans. Differential , transfer case, could and probably were underwater, for who knows how long. Run dude run.
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11-17-2020, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by urban rednek
I don't think a $6K discount is anywhere near enough to cover the possibility it could turn into a money pit; even if they are offering you an extended manufacturers (not dealer) warranty. The aggravation factor might be too high.
Maybe, with a deeper discount and an iron clad lemon clause written into the purchase contract.
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This would be my opinion as well.
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11-17-2020, 08:38 AM
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I had a cavalier get partially submerged in a flood at an apartment complex a log time ago. Dried it out, changed fluids, etc. Airbag spontaneously went off while I was driving about two months later. I’m sure whoever repaired the SUV did a better job than I did back then but, not worth the risk...
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11-17-2020, 08:44 AM
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One more vote for run like hell. Resale on this unit is zero so whatever you spend for it, that is gone. On top of that, the potential for problems is large. There is a reason most places will not allow rebuilds of flood damage vehicles. Even with a Bumper to Bumper for ever warranty it isn't worth the potential grief.
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11-17-2020, 08:47 AM
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The Impossible has occurred. A consensus on this forum!
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11-17-2020, 08:52 AM
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The Terrain is a complete heap..you will be the 'looser' after the dust..er..water settles..
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11-17-2020, 08:56 AM
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In addition to the concerns already mentioned I would also be concerned about the rest of it's history.
If it was flooded in 2016, and it's a 2016 model it's unlikely it had 55K on it when it was submerged.
I think somebody besides the original owner drove it for it to have 55k on it.
But whoever did, didn't drive it for long.
55k is very low for 4 years. Did it sit for three years? I doubt it.
I'm thinking it was repaired and sold, then put back for sale. Why?
I also wouldn't buy it.
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11-17-2020, 09:03 AM
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The Impossible has occurred. A consensus on this forum!
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Woot! The planets have aligned!
...Time for me to run out and buy a lottery ticket... 
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11-17-2020, 09:07 AM
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I hear there's a connection around here for old rentals.... probably a better option than a flood car
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11-17-2020, 11:17 AM
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Thanks for reply's
The first thread in AO history where everybody agreed on something, I'll take the advice and move on.
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11-17-2020, 11:34 AM
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From what I can understand the Terrain / Chev equivalent are not that great to begin with, never mind the Nimo action. Run away as fast as you can!
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11-17-2020, 11:39 AM
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i would only worry about electronics corroding over time .
Ask for more money off. 13k in repairs most likely covered by insurance.
And 6 grand off is like pennies. You can get a many brand new off the lot trucks for double that off the sticker from just manufacture rebates.
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11-17-2020, 11:47 AM
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It's just not appropriate to have consensus on AO, therefore I say buy it. Then sell it to sns2, but don't mention the water issue. That way we can have another hum dinger thread about it. Or Bessie may want it, as a moose truck.... 
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11-17-2020, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
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It's just not appropriate to have consensus on AO, therefore I say buy it. Then sell it to sns2, but don't mention the water issue. That way we can have another hum dinger thread about it. Or Bessie may want it, as a moose truck.... |
Now that is cruel!!! Even if true. 
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11-17-2020, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
It's just not appropriate to have consensus on AO, therefore I say buy it. Then sell it to sns2, but don't mention the water issue. That way we can have another hum dinger thread about it. Or Bessie may want it, as a moose truck.... |
You are on a roll today, TC! 
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