Proposed Changes to Migratory Bird permits

[ghostguy6]

I recently received an email about the proposed changes to the federal migratory game bird licenses asking for my input. Looks like they want to raise the prices by 40% in by 2021 as well as a fee of $5 if you purchase a permit at a local retailer.

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment...vice-fees.html


If you wish to put your input forward here is the contact information.
Please ensure that Environment and Climate Change Canada receives your comments no later than March 21, 2018:

By email to: ec.ReglementsFaune-WildlifeRegulations.ec@canada.ca

By mail to:

Director
Wildlife Management and Regulatory Affairs Division
Canadian Wildlife Service
Environment and Climate Change Canada
351 St-Joseph Boulevard 16th floor
Place Vincent Massey
Gatineau QC K1A 0H3

[nube]

Going to be way less hunter out there if that goes through. It's an expensive enough game already to hunt birds

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by nube

Going to be way less hunter out there if that goes through. It's an expensive enough game already to hunt birds

Seriously? You think a $30.00 license is going to reduce the amount of hunters?

[CNP]

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[2 Tollers]

No problem with the changes to the resident fees. However it does not state if the non-resident fees would be going up and these should go up substantially.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

Seriously? You think a $30.00 license is going to reduce the amount of hunters?

It is for young people, or those that only go out once or twice a season. It's death thunking - by a throwing up as many barriers as possible.

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by thumper

It is for young people, or those that only go out once or twice a season. It's death thunking - by a throwing up as many barriers as possible.

The same young people that fill the bars and pay 7-8 bucks for a beer? The sky is not falling....

[bobalong]

I don't know if it will cause many hunters to stop because of the increase but it may prevent some new comers for starting.
With no increase (within reason) since 1991 I think it is reasonable that an increase be implemented.
I may be a bit biased though as goose hunting is my passion but I would pay more to continue waterfowl hunting without hesitation.

[Top of the Foodchain]

I personally have no issue paying a little more for my license, but I have a few concerns about the proposal. They obviously want hunters buying online to save dollars. The remmision proposal if I understand this right, a refund would be available if you don't receive your permit within 48 hours but not on the stamp half. I would hope if they want hunters buying online they have a system that works, and works instantly. The second part is they show no increase in program costs over those years, that is just silly unless they plan on cutting the programs including enforcement. And just as a final note does anyone one else see a problem with them spending $3,000,000 a year on surveys for 200,000 licensed hunters.

[Pixel Shooter]

Good thoughts. Agree! Would like to see bigger bang for buck as or elk. Increase the pheasant licence fees and release more birds so i can hunt more wild birds

Originally Posted by Top of the Foodchain

I personally have no issue paying a little more for my license, but I have a few concerns about the proposal. They obviously want hunters buying online to save dollars. The remmision proposal if I understand this right, a refund would be available if you don't receive your permit within 48 hours but not on the stamp half. I would hope if they want hunters buying online they have a system that works, and works instantly. The second part is they show no increase in program costs over those years, that is just silly unless they plan on cutting the programs including enforcement. And just as a final note does anyone one else see a problem with them spending $3,000,000 a year on surveys for 200,000 licensed hunters.

[Bganz]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

The same young people that fill the bars and pay 7-8 bucks for a beer? The sky is not falling....

The same young people that are buried in student debt, because they chose to become professionals instead of spending their weekends drinking at a bar. Quit being so "Angry* Jonn".

- sincerely, a lab owner who thinks you'd be happier if you had a lab.

[nube]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

Seriously? You think a $30.00 license is going to reduce the amount of hunters?

Ya I actually do. Lots of guys are guys that go hunt for Thanksgiving and maybe one other weekend a season.....
Will be interesting to see if it matters much or not but I think it will some

[shooter12]

Originally Posted by nube

Ya I actually do. Lots of guys are guys that go hunt for Thanksgiving and maybe one other weekend a season.....
Will be interesting to see if it matters much or not but I think it will some

I think in this Country nobody cares about $20 or $30 bucks extra for an opportunity to spend a season hunting ducks and geese for 3-4 months.lol
S12

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by Bganz

The same young people that are buried in student debt, because they chose to become professionals instead of spending their weekends drinking at a bar. Quit being so "Angry* Jonn".

- sincerely, a lab owner who thinks you'd be happier if you had a lab.

Yea, I hold two diplomas and working on my bachelors degree because apparently can't get a good job without a Bachelors minimum.

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by Bganz

The same young people that are buried in student debt, because they chose to become professionals instead of spending their weekends drinking at a bar. Quit being so "Angry* Jonn".

- sincerely, a lab owner who thinks you'd be happier if you had a lab.

Now that's funny...

[angery jonn]

inflation is a reality of life and if you don't think it should effect this you are delusional. The license have not seen an increase since 91, I would say it's been due for awhile now.

Every year I see posts from people complaining about the lack of habitat and resources, where do you think the money comes from to provide that?

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by gloszz

Yea, I hold two diplomas and working on my bachelors degree because apparently can't get a good job without a Bachelors minimum.

What field are you in?

[saskbooknut]

The proposal does not fully rectify the Migratory Game Bird permit's loss of value since 1991 due to inflation.
It is a minor increase and was bound to happen. Canadian Wildlife Service has been struggling with shrinking resources for years.

Of more concern is the daily assault on waterfowl habitat by agricultural practises on the prairies. I see sloughs plowed up everywhere around Saskatoon. This funding will not make much of a difference to that.

[dgl1948]

Has anyone seen any projects that has been supported by the conservation stamp funds? I have not. The only wetland support I have seen are by local wildlife groups or DU. I have never seen any enforcement of laws by federal officials as well. They want to increase fees but last week they dropped the Federal Wetland Conservation fund???? I would have no problem supporting a fee increase if I could see a benifit but I have not seen any evidence of it working. I fear the money would just be lost in general revenue.

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

Has anyone seen any projects that has been supported by the conservation stamp funds? I have not. The only wetland support I have seen are by local wildlife groups or DU. I have never seen any enforcement of laws by federal officials as well. They want to increase fees but last week they dropped the Federal Wetland Conservation fund???? I would have no problem supporting a fee increase if I could see a benifit but I have not seen any evidence of it working. I fear the money would just be lost in general revenue.

I would suggest opening the provided link and reading it.

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

What field are you in?

Construction and business.

Diploma in architectural technology, as well as business management and now have a year left on my bachelor of construction management. I don't plan to stay here though, either moving to the USA or Europe so I am not that worried. Of course, if the economy picks up and I find work then I will stay, but as of now I have a few internships lined up for the summer in Europe and USA.

[shedcrazy]

I can't even grasp thinking that a $11 increase in price by 2021 would even affect 1 hunter let alone lots.....

S

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

I would suggest opening the provided link and reading it.

I did and there was nothing there to address my issues.

[elkhunter11]

When I look at the cost of ammunition, plus the fuel that I burn each week spotting, let alone the investment in decoys, blinds, calls, the price increase is insignificant.

[2 Tollers]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

When I look at the cost of ammunition, plus the fuel that I burn each week spotting, let alone the investment in decoys, blinds, calls, the price increase is insignificant.

You forgot the Tim's for the road. Those alone over the course of the year greatly exceed the increase.

[angery jonn]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

I did and there was nothing there to address my issues.

So you missed the 8 pages explaining were the money is going and what it’s needed for then?

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by angery jonn

So you missed the 8 pages explaining were the money is going and what it’s needed for then?

No. I have just never seen anything done with this money. I have seen lots of DU projects but never anything done with federal money.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by shedcrazy

I can't even grasp thinking that a $11 increase in price by 2021 would even affect 1 hunter let alone lots.....

S

That’s less than 100km in fuel

LC

[32-40win]

That licence is one of the few bargains in licences, as much as I'd rather not pay more, it is due. I just saw a post with DU applauding the gov't on the budget, apparently they are allocating some big money for what people like DU is interested in doing.

[saskbooknut]

There are National wildlife areas and Migratory bird sanctuaries all across the country. In addition, many habitat projects are federally funded in collaboration with the Provinces.