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Old 01-05-2018, 02:03 PM
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Cool Are We “Managing Wildlife to Zero” in British Columbia?

Some strong parallels between what is occurring in BC and those in Alberta in this regard:



Are We “Managing Wildlife to Zero” in British Columbia?

by Mark LR Hall | Jan 4, 2018 |

“Managing to Zero” is when;

Wildlife populations are in a long-term decline,
There is no plan to recover the populations to former levels and,
The only management action is to continually ratchet hunting seasons down so that hunting is not a cause of the population declines.

Are Hunters Contributing to the “Managing to Zero” Approach?

The problem with trying to get government committed to science-based wildlife management is compounded when hunters are only advocating for reductions in hunting seasons. More and more I am seeing that the standard “go-to” response from hunters is to advocate for shortening the hunting seasons and ask that government take hunting opportunities away. The most concerning part of this approach to hunter advocacy is there is often no solid evidence showing that hunting regulations are causing the declines in the first place. This is a dangerous approach to advocacy because it is driving hunters, wildlife managers and politicians down the road of endorsing populist wildlife management like we saw with the grizzly hunting ban decision.

If all hunters want is less hunting and they hassle and embarrass government to get their way the easiest cost-effective way for government to fix the problem is to take hunting away rather than invest in recovering wildlife populations. If a little bit less hunting is good for wildlife then is a lot less hunting even better? The messages we should be telling politicians are: Declining populations are the problem not hunting and investing in wildlife management is what it will take to recover wildlife populations.

Managing to Zero – Case in Point

In British Columbia, some wildlife populations and hunter harvest levels have been on a downward trend for many decades. For example, in B.C.’s Region 5 wildlife management unit the moose population suffered significant multiple population crashes over the last several decades. After each successive crash attempts were made to recover the moose population by eliminating antlerless seasons, closing the any bull GOS season, shortening the length of the bull seasons and putting bulls on Limited Entry. None of these changes to the hunting regulations caused the population to rebound. With minimal science and investment in moose management we don’t know exactly what is causing the moose declines or what combinations of factors or conditions are limiting their population recovery. The total moose harvest in Region 5 went from 3000+ moose to a few hundred in a period of 25 years yet there is still no formal science-based management plan to recover moose in Region 5. Research is under way to find out the answers but it’s only been started recently as a result of hunters raising concerns about moose numbers.

Region 5 moose harvest trends. Moose are victims of the Managing to Zero approach.



In British Columbia’s Region 4 wildlife management unit the mule deer population crashed after the severe winter of 1996/1997 and consequently the hunter harvest crashed. The seasons were shortened in length, mule deer does seasons were closed and bucks were restricted to 4 points. With all these changes to the hunting regulations over the years mule deer have never recovered in Region 4. B.C. has not invested enough in mule deer research to know what factors are preventing the population from rebounding. Consequently we do not know how to recover the deer populations. Mule deer in Region 4 are a victim of the Managing to Zero approach and some hunters continue to advocate for more hunting restrictions on mule deer rather than demanding a science-based recovery plan.

Hunters recognized these declines decades ago and they have been demanding that the government take action to rebuild the populations. Hunters, guides and trappers are very in tune with what is going on in the areas they are familiar with. Local knowledge can be the early warning red flags that signal when more intense management is needed. This is why hunter’s field observations need to be documented in a systematic, objective and meaningful way to help verify wildlife monitoring data.

Region 4 mule deer harvest trends. Mule deer are a victim of the Managing to Zero approach.



Obviously, when a wildlife population continues to decline hunting will need to stop at some point. Some hunters in B.C. continue to suggest white-tailed deer populations are crashing but harvest data suggest the long-term trend is one of increasing harvest and increasing populations. Many of the Bighorn Sheep herds in Region 4 have fallen below the threshold of 75 animals where provincial harvest policy says that hunting needs to be suspended. There are no science-based recovery plans being developed for sheep but this fact garners little protest from hunters. Bighorn sheep of the Rocky Mountains and Purcell Mountains of southeastern B.C. are victims of the Managing to Zero approach, lack of funding for sheep management and hunter apathy.

The Real Big Picture

Wildlife scientists are starting to tell us they are seeing similar patterns in the ups and downs of wildlife populations across western North America. There are no solid explanations yet but the oscillation of long-term continental weather patterns is one theory being looked at. The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) is a 30-40 year natural oscillation in the warm currents of the Pacific Ocean. The PDO has already been linked to wildfire cycles as well as population fluctuations in Dall’s Sheep in North America. Wildlife populations across the continent are managed by many different approaches to regulating hunting. It is highly unlikely that with today’s conservation and science-based hunting regulations that hunting seasons in any one jurisdiction plays such a major role in influencing the long-term population trends of wildlife across such large regions.

What are We Trying to Accomplish?

If wildlife populations are going to be restored there has to be clearly defined objectives for what wildlife managers need to achieve. Without objectives there can be no detailed management plans. Without detailed management plans wildlife management is ad hoc and directionless. Did you know that it is law in B.C. that protecting wildlife or habitat cannot be done in a way that unduly impacts timber supply? There is no legislation that says timber extraction must not unduly impact wildlife populations. That’s right. Wildlife managers cannot make decisions in the best interest of wildlife that impact timber supply. There is no legislation in B.C. that says mule deer, moose or any other wildlife species must be maintained at specific population levels. Without legislated objectives for wildlife populations as the starting point every other discussion about wildlife management is pretty much a moot discussion.

The Camps

When it comes to advocating for the recovery of declining wildlife populations there are three general camps on the issue.

Camp 1. Hunters with a Heart

“Hunters with a Heart” are the hunters who honestly feel if giving up hunting will bring back wildlife populations they are willing to forego their own opportunities. During the unregulated exploitation periods of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the history of conservation in Canada included placing restrictions on hunting so wildlife populations could recover. The “Hunters with a Heart” mean well. They are unselfish and willing to give up something important to them for conservation. But they have fallen into the trap of believing that hunting in the 21st century under strict conservation principles and regulatory controls is the cause of population declines. The overall wildlife management model in B.C. has failed these hunters by allowing them to feel they are the problem. Hunters are bombarded with anti-hunting messages, negative media coverage and even substandard research that paints the picture that hunting is now bad for conservation. Wildlife managers and biologists should be clearly standing up and telling the government, public and media that hunting is sustainable and there is no reason to keep taking away from hunters. Too many hunters seem to believe they are the cause of wildlife problems and hunting regulations are seen by many as the only way to recover declining populations.

Camp 2. Hunter Hating Hunters

There is a small subculture in the hunting community comprised of hunters who hate other hunters being out in the mountains and enjoying success. There are folks who would like nothing more than hunting to be so restrictive that they are the only ones in the woods. In other areas of society this elitism manifests itself when the cost of an activity becomes a barrier to entry and only the rich can enjoy it. In hunting, making hunting regulations so restrictive that hunters say, “Screw it” and quit is something the “Hunter Hating Hunters” actually want to have happen. The real sinister part of this subculture is when folks use the situation of declining wildlife populations to advocate for shorter seasons, more restrictions, less opportunity and advocate for pretty much anything that reduces the number of hunters. These folks might not even be interested in having populations rebound so more people can enjoy success and the number of hunters can increase. Rather they might hope for the opposite. Often these hunter haters stand out in the crowd because they are the loudest ones at public meetings or they are the ones pushing their opinions over and over again in the local newspapers. They use the word “I” a lot and often use coercive tactics to get a group of people aligned with their way of thinking. Often their arguments lack logic and their opinions on hunting regulations are self-serving. You can often recognize these hunters because they advocate for restrictions that affect everyone else except them. For example, I recently read a submission where hunters said: “spike elk should be closed, hunting bull elk in the rut should be closed, the elk season should be shortened by 10 days and the remaining cow permits should be revoked”. At the same time the submission said, “Senior hunters should be allowed to hunt any elk at any elevation all season long”.

Camp 3. Hunters-4-Science

The “Hunters-4-Science” are the folks that want science and objectives to drive wildlife management. They are critical thinkers and well-versed in the scientific literature as well as being knowledgeable about wildlife management concepts and government policy. Some of these hunters are actual wildlife scientists. “Hunters-4-Science” believe that wildlife policy needs to be based on solid wildlife and human dimensions research. The “Hunters-4-Science” are often the ones asking questions rather than stating opinions at public meetings. They are the ones most proactive in engaging with biologists and politicians to find solutions to problems. “Hunters-4-Science” recognize that the future of hunting relies on sustainable wildlife populations and they know that sustainable wildlife populations rely on world-class funding for wildlife management, lots of science and lots of voters who care deeply about wildlife.

Does your Dog Bite?

There are many more examples of Managing to Zero in B.C. including salmon and steelhead populations that are on the brink of extinction because recovering their populations have never been a conservation priority. But all these examples share the same theme; our management approach in B.C. far too often involves watching fish and wildlife disappear from the land and then simply restricting fishing and hunting opportunities.

We risk getting bit in our collective asses when hunters take to the airwaves to start publicly stating that they want hunting regulations to be more restrictive or for hunting seasons to be shortened because hunting is causing wildlife declines. Some hunters believe that if they give up something in the name of conservation that the relinquished opportunity will be given back to them in the future when populations rebound. History has shown this does not happen. These folks trust that the media will report their claims something like this:

Headlines: “Hunters generously ask for reduced hunting seasons to help recover wildlife populations.”

When in today’s explosive and emotionally charged public forums the hunter’s words are more likely going to be turned against us something like:

Headlines: “Hunters admit they are devastating wildlife populations – Is it time to ban all hunting forever?”

Once this kind of headline hits the media there is no going back. Hunters have no control over what the media or social media does with their statements and we once again risk losing control of the hunting narrative. The media is most interested in reporting the angle of a story that creates controversy. In the eyes of B.C.’s media right now hunters are the evil doers and that’s the angle that sells papers. The anti-hunters are looking for anything hunters do or say so they can pounce and continue to drive nails in the coffin of our hunting heritage. I ask that hunters stop handing the anti-hunters nails and that they begin to work more collaboratively with biologists, scientists and other stakeholder groups so we can solve our most critical wildlife population problems using science and the roundtable approach. This doesn’t mean discounting hunter’s field observations, ideas or opinions but it does mean harnessing them and integrating them with sound wildlife science. This is how hunter conservationists and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation got us to the 21st century. As much as some folks state that the good old days of hunting are gone I firmly believe that things are pretty damn good right now! There are some wildlife populations in B.C. that are in need of intensive management and recovery but there are also many species and populations that are doing quite well. We still have an amazing landscape to hunt and some of the best opportunities in all of North America. For our youth hunters just starting out in hunting today is their good old days. Let’s not keep discouraging them by saying the good old days are gone.

What can you do to help? In my previous article I outlined 12 things hunters can do to create a positive change in 2018. These twelve mantras can also be applied to the issue of Managing to Zero.

Additional steps hunters can take to help include:

Approaching issues with “eyes-wide-open” so you are aware of power plays.

Focusing on the “Big Picture” vision for hunting and wildlife conservation.

Presenting well-thought out messages in public forums that cannot be spun by the media.

Demanding people speak the truth and back up opinions with facts.

Shifting the discussion away from hunting regulations to that of science-based wildlife management.

Telling your elected officials you want government to create legislated objectives for fish and wildlife populations.

Is it time we stopped pulling on the lever marked “hunting regulations?”

http://hunterconservationist.ca/are-...tish-columbia/

Should be Mandatory reading for every hunter, and every single one who sits in opposition of that activity.

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Old 01-05-2018, 05:36 PM
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Id be interested to see what some of the other numbers are, in particular
Non resident hunter harvest
Estimated aboriginal harvest (if it has increased or remained stable
Estimated predator numbers now vs then
Other than that really if it came down to snow levels and winter kill we would see more variation over the last 20 years
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"Declining populations are the problem not hunting"


Declining populations are not the problem. Declining populations are a symptom of the problem.

The only thing I got out of that long post is that regulating has not lead to any recovery of game populations. I can buy into the idea scientific research might be more appropriate, but there is no suggestion where to start. I think that it must start by someone somewhere having a theory or theories as to the cause of the decline of certain species in certain areas. Science does not just happen but must arrive at conclusions by testing theories and that may require the elimination of bad theories such as regulations and over hunting etc.
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Do you have access to the first article Nogg.

What can you do to help? In my previous article I outlined 12 things hunters can do to create a positive change in 2018. These twelve mantras can also be applied to the issue of Managing to Zero.

I would like to find out more about this.

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Do you have access to the first article Nogg.
Sure Don:

http://hunterconservationist.ca/12-w...hange-in-2018/

By the way, the name is Matt ;-)

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^^^ X's 2.

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Let's post it - because it's germane to the topic:

12 Ways Hunters Can Make a Positive Change in 2018
by Mark LR Hall | Dec 26, 2017 | Blog | 0 comments

I Was Hoping to Hear This….
My previous article titled Are Hunters Undermining Wildlife Conservation in the East Kootenay struck a chord with a lot of readers. I was overwhelmed with the number of individuals who privately contacted me and expressed their frustration over the people who are trying to manipulate hunting regulations and playing politics for personal gain. Many hunters are quiet humble people who prefer not to be in the spotlight or get involved in conflict. But so many of them told me they are angry and ready to do something about the individuals who act as if their opinions represent those of all hunters. It was reassuring to hear that there are many hunters out there who are supportive of true science-based wildlife management and who want the opinionated folks to ratchet it down in favour of more constructive round table dialogue.
I Was Not Expecting To Also Hear This Though…
I was taken back, however, by the number of people that wrote me and said that they were losing hope about the future of wildlife and hunting. Some hunters tell me they feel so bombarded with the issues and problems facing hunting and wildlife and with all the conflict between hunters that they feel like quitting hunting. “I feel like I’m being told to throw in the towel” as one hunter put it. Another hunter said he feels he may never get the opportunity to teach his young son about hunting and share the passions he has for the outdoors. Another reader told me he feels demoralized because older men in his own family are down on him for working so hard at hunting. They tell him he’s wasting his time because there is no wildlife left. Other people expressed feelings of being lost because there are so many issues facing hunting and wildlife that they do not know how to help.
Are We Really Living in the Empire Strikes Back Episode?
Over the last few years, the more I became involved in wildlife conservation, politics and standing up for wildlife and hunting, the more of the world’s problems seem to weigh me down. I was losing the ability to be happy when I was out hunting because wildlife and hunting problems plagued my every thought. I could never clear my mind and simply enjoy being present in the nature. The more I tried to get involved, the more my health and personal relationships were suffering. I was growing more and more frustrated that the important big picture conservation issues were always overshadowed by hunters attacking one another or from their being “stuck in the weeds.” Every time we seemed to make a bit of progress on building public trust, a sensationalized media campaign erupted over some stupid thing that a hunter posted on social media. I see subcultures of hunters who do nothing but hate. There also seems to be some folks in the hunting community set on destroying the people who are working the hardest to protect hunting and wildlife including hunting spokespeople, biologists, scientists and wildlife managers. I understand why many hunters feel their sense of hopelessness. It’s why I took a step back and revaluated where and how I wanted to be involved in wildlife conservation and the future of hunting.
It is a challenging time right now for wildlife and hunting in British Columbia. There are a lot of problems and threats. But it is not a time that warrants apathy, quitting or feeling that there is no hope for a better future. There is a tremendous amount to be thankful for in British Columbia. BC is the best jurisdiction in all of North America when it comes to hunting. For those of us that live here, our province and hunting way of life is worth fighting for. There is hope and hope lies within each of us. It just needs to find a way to get out. This is why I focus on trying to reach you with ideas through my writing.
Pessimistic, Optimistic or Realistic – Which Attitude Should Hunters Adopt for 2018?
I challenge all hunters to take some time in the New Year and reflect on what hunting means to you. Spend some time soul searching and really try to define the essence of hunting that is the most important for you. Understanding what’s important to you is the first step towards realizing there is hope. I also challenge you to take the weight of the world off your shoulders. Stop worrying about the world’s hunting problems. You can’t fix them all and no one is expecting you to. There are some really smart and passionate people working on wildlife and hunting problems. What they need more than anything is your support in trying to get elected officials to focus on big picture conservation issues.
In 2018, you have a choice in what type of attitude you can adopt towards the future of hunting and wildlife conservation. Inspirational writer William A Ward once said,
“The pessimist complains about the wind,
The optimist expects the wind to change and,
The realist adjusts the sail.”

Should hunters be optimists, pessimists or realists?
Pessimists are always ****ting on everyone and everything. They often are the ones who make up the hater subcultures that exist within the hunting community. They do nothing to advance wildlife conservation or protect the future of hunting. In many cases they are the ones hurting us the most. In hunting, many of the pessimists are what a few of us jokingly call the GOWGs – Grumpy Old White Guys. Distancing yourself from the pessimists and haters can make a huge difference in encouraging your positive attitude in 2018.
Across the province, many of the people involved in wildlife conservation hear the old hunters complaining that younger hunters are not stepping up to become advocates for hunting and conservation. The GOWGs criticize and dump on the younger generations for their apathy and self-centered attitudes. Young people across the province tell us they want to be involved but they do not want to be around the GOWGs. Many younger hunters desperately want to help wildlife and promote a better image of hunting but they do not want to sit around with a generation of angry entitled hunters who are just mad at the world. Younger hunters have different values and they have more efficient ways of communicating with one another and organizing themselves using social media. Maybe 2018 needs to be the year that our oldest generations retire from the hunting-wildlife battles and support the younger generations to start talking about their vision for the future of hunting and what’s important to them.
Optimists can bring everyone’s spirits and confidence up because they always see the positive side of issues and they are thankful for what they have. Optimism can be infectious and inspiring. Optimists are often the cheerleaders in the crowd. But they can also be the ones that see the world through rose-coloured glasses and who don’t engage in tough discussions about the changes needed in wildlife management and hunting because of the belief that “it will all be ok.”
Realists see the big picture and they are the ones who think about the tactics that hunters need to employ in order to function and survive in a changing world. If realists are also empowering-type leaders, they can be the ones who unite and drive change by creating a movement. Realists, however, run the danger of only focusing on immediate challenges and always talking about the sky that is falling.
It’s clear that pessimism is hurting the future of hunting and wildlife. Pessimists need to fade out of the picture. We need more optimists and realists working together with a shared vision for the future. Possibly the best attitude you can adopt is to become an optimistic realist. An optimistic realist would identify the issues, study them objectively and set a course of action to solve problems while inspiring other hunters by giving them hope.
12 Ways Hunters Can Make a Positive Change in 2018
I’ve put together 12 inspirational life mantras that I’ve borrowed from other inspirational thinkers and adapted them so they have meaning to hunters. These mantras and life lessons, once adopted, have the ability to change the direction of hunting and wildlife conservation. If you are ambitious, work on one mantra each month in 2018. If that seems like too much, simply pick two and make them your goals for the New Year. Every bit of progress is a positive contribution. As Mahatma Gandhi said – “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.”
1) Pursue what makes you happy
You have the right to be happy and to pursue hunting in the way that brings you pleasure. You do not need to conform or meet other’s expectations. Simply hunt to be happy within yourself. Find the deeper personal meanings of hunting that bring you pleasure and seek them out as much as you can. Being passionate about wildlife and hunting means you care about some aspect of nature. People who care will act to protect what they love. You need to free yourself and not feel guilty for pursuing happiness in your hunting. Being happy can be considered the first step to changing the future of hunting. Celebrate hunting and be happy with what you have.
2) Respect others
Without respect for one another there can be no good outcomes for wildlife conservation or hunting. Treat every fellow hunter, non-hunter, anti-hunter, wildlife biologist, scientist or elected official like you would your grandmother. In 2018, don’t you think it’s time that hunting and wildlife conservation could do with a little less hate?
3) Embrace learning
The death of hunting and conservation will be ignorance. More than ever, you need to be well-informed and understand the complexities of the problems facing wildlife and hunting. Reading, learning and developing a voracious passion for knowledge about wildlife, conservation and hunting will empower you. Well-rounded, well-informed, balanced critical thinking and articulate hunters are the future of hunting and conservation. Diving into the scientific literature can be daunting though. I recommend getting onto Twitter and start following many of the brilliant young wildlife scientists and biologists that are out there working on the leading edges of wildlife management. Most of them simplify what their science is telling us and they are all super cool with answering questions. In 2018, seek to understand rather than being understood.
4) Check your opinions
In the words of comedian Tim Minchin, “Opinions are like *******s; everyone has one. Unlike your *******, your opinions need to be regularly examined.” If a few more folks did some regular examinations in 2018, we might all be better off.
5) Teach others
Take some aspect of your passion for hunting, wildlife or love of the outdoors and share that with others. Teach people what you know and show them why you care so much. The best gains for wildlife and the future of hunting can be achieved by giving others the gift of knowledge and a reason to care about wildlife. Teach someone how to hunt and process their own wild food.
6) Contribute to conservation
Not everyone has time to dedicate hours per week as a volunteer in a hunting conservation organization. Don’t worry. You don’t have to. Research and find an organization whose ideologies, messages and efforts speak to you and just join. Something as simple as just having a membership makes a huge difference since the size of memberships often is what puts power behind an organization’s voice. For Canadian hunters, try to put your support behind an organization that’s dedicated to wildlife conservation and protecting hunting in Canada or your province. If joining an organization is not your thing, consider picking a cause and making a donation to wildlife once per year. You can never go wrong with contributing financially to a habitat project.
7) Support others
In British Columbia, there are approximately 115,000 resident hunters, yet there are only a handful of individuals who are working day in and day out advocating for wildlife conservation, hunters’ values and our hunting heritage. Often these spokespeople put themselves in the spotlight and they get ridiculed in media interviews and at public meetings. Far too often these leaders are also the target of hunter’s criticism and hate. Some leaders and spokespeople even receive death threats from within our own hunting community. Other leaders have been the victims of local hunters who have tried to destroy their families and careers. In 2018, take the opportunity to encourage these leaders, show them your gratitude and tell them you support them in what they are trying to do.
8) Be “pro” something
Stand for something positive. Be “pro” something rather than “anti” something. Distance yourself from haters and the hater subcultures. If you use social media or log into hunting chat sites that are filled with complainers and haters, do yourself a favour and unfollow them. Find like-minded people who stand for something positive and have constructive ideas.
9) Don’t show off
If there has been one thing in 2017 that has once again plagued the reputation of hunter conservationists, it has been the hunters that feel entitled to show off on social media. Ego and egregious behavior continues to hurt hunting and our conservation efforts in the public forum thanks to a few hunters who don’t have the foresight to anticipate social reactions to their online content. I believe it was Canadian Conservationist Shane Mahoney who called the move to put hunting onto television and into mainstream media as a grand social experiment that went dreadfully wrong. Fortunately, I see many good folks ratcheting down their personal social media and self-promotions out of respect for the institution of hunting and their fellow hunter.
10) Search for win-win solutions
Non-hunters are focused on wanting to talk about what hunting ought to be, and hunters are focused on defending what hunting is. Non-hunters want to see moral progress in hunting, and hunters are stuck in the past and on maintaining old traditions. Hunters are battling against hunters. Resident hunters are angry at Guide-Outfitters. Rifle hunters are angry at bow hunters and so on and so on. Each side in all these debates is entrenched in fighting for the win-lose outcome. When each side compromises on their values, ideologies and wants in order to find win-win solutions, everyone, especially wildlife, wins. In 2018, become a hunter who advocates for win-win solutions and accepts a bit of give and take.
11) Stand for truth
In this post truth era, we are constantly reminded of how people can take their opinions or made up facts and convince others that these opinions are “true.” Educating yourself will arm you with facts and evidence which, in turn, will allow you to become a person that stands for the truth. A person who stands for truth is more influential. In 2018, stand for truth. Demand that people speak the truth and demand that they support their claims with verifiable evidence and facts. Wildlife deserves a conservation framework based on truth and so do hunters.
12) No entitlement
Life Coach and Mentor Dick Rauscher says, “Our self-focused feelings of entitlement encourage us towards anger and the blaming of others when we don’t get what we feel we are entitled to in life… simply because we want it. But the primary danger that comes with our self-focused sense of entitlement… is the fact that it tends to create walls of envy between us and others.”
In 2018, learn to recognize entitlement and when you see it, call out those who suffer from it.

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13) Celebrate more
To the hunting conservation leaders in Canada working on our behalf, please make 2018 the year you balance problems facing hunting and wildlife with successes and celebrations of wildlife, hunters and the hunt. Giving people a reason to care is also about being an optimistic realistic leader. When hunters are bombarded with issues and problems on a daily basis, we all get overwhelmed and that can lead to that sense of hopelessness. A sense of hopelessness can lead to giving up and that leads to a lose-lose outcome for wildlife and the future of hunting.
14) Recognize contributions
To all elected officials representing the people, make 2018 the year that you recognize the knowledge, skills and contributions that rural people make to conservation. Become the leaders that break down these damaging urban vs. rural and hunter vs. non-hunter strifes that plague wildlife conservation in British Columbia.
To my fellow Hunter Conservationists, here’s to hope in the New Year and the role we all play in changing the future.
Yours in Hunting and Conservation,
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"Declining populations are the problem not hunting"


Declining populations are not the problem. Declining populations are a symptom of the problem.

The only thing I got out of that long post is that regulating has not lead to any recovery of game populations. I can buy into the idea scientific research might be more appropriate, but there is no suggestion where to start. I think that it must start by someone somewhere having a theory or theories as to the cause of the decline of certain species in certain areas. Science does not just happen but must arrive at conclusions by testing theories and that may require the elimination of bad theories such as regulations and over hunting etc.
I dunno, to me it says Hunters need to suggest where to start.

For example. WMU 339.


Prior to the winter of 2010 this zone had good game numbers. In 2011 there was no change in the tags issued for this zone.(2 supplemental white tail tags, general 3 point better elk, general antlered mulie Ect.) I can’t remember the year but I think they reduced supplemental tags to one and put mulie on draw around 2014. Now add the wolves that are at the high of there cycle and it is a recipe for disaster.

IMO, we need to be more proactive. Waiting 3-4 years to adjust tag numbers after a bad winter is a small part of the problem. The bigger problem is the high population of wolves that are eating themselves out of food. Of course this will balance out eventually, but it would go along way to increasing game numbers if Hunters and Trappers hit the wolves hard after bad winters. My suggestion is a bounty where wolf populations are high.
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Its all about predators and parasites.

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I'm waiting for the "Camp 2" guys to show up with their $1000 tag solution...
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Walking Buffalo has provided the scientific data in several previous posts. Unless predators are managed, we will never see ungulates recover in the forested areas of western Canada.
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