Calgary gang war

[FishingMOM]

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/calgary-ga...015457076.html
Expect the worst ever, expect innocent people to die yet
Hmmm guess we need to be removing people from Canada instead of playing hug a thug rehab.

[barsik]

confiscate all the handguns and black rifles because then the gangs won't have anything to shoot at each other with. leave it to the social engineering editors in the cbc and the diabolical manipulative libs to blame guns and intentionally disregard the real problem.

[FishingMOM]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/c...utor-1.3368057

Cops catch them
Then they get bail so quickly the cops are angry.
Judges are angry at these clowns crying help then refusing to help or sitting with the attackers in court.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by barsik

confiscate all the handguns and black rifles because then the gangs won't have anything to shoot at each other with. leave it to the social engineering editors in the cbc and the diabolical manipulative libs to blame guns and intentionally disregard the real problem.

Finally, a voice of intelligent reason!!
The sad thing is many on the left will actually see this an intelligent reaction.

[whiteout]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/calgary-ga...015457076.html
Expect the worst ever, expect innocent people to die yet
Hmmm guess we need to be removing people from Canada instead of playing hug a thug rehab.

Where would you deport someone born in Canada to?

Serious question by the way, would like to see your response.

[hillbillyreefer]

Thank God we are importing plane loads of people to step up and take the place of the fallen gangbangers.

[ccmckee]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Thank God we are importing plane loads of people to step up and take the place of the fallen gangbangers.

Yeah, the families with young kids i've seen getting off the planes so far are real gangbangers!

[dmac]

Originally Posted by barsik

confiscate all the handguns and black rifles because then the gangs won't have anything to shoot at each other with. leave it to the social engineering editors in the cbc and the diabolical manipulative libs to blame guns and intentionally disregard the real problem.

Which is?

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by ccmckee

Yeah, the families with young kids i've seen getting off the planes so far are real gangbangers!

The gangbangers parents/families came on planes.
Those young kids coming now will grow up, majority of these families once government sponsorship is over and the cheques come to an end who aren't already living in middle east neighborhoods will migrate to these 'middle east burroughs' (birds of a feather flock together) and will grow up in an environment similar to what is producing these gang bangers. The grafitti is on the wall.

[pitw]

Originally Posted by dmac

Which is?

Calgary.

[winged1]

Originally Posted by whiteout

Where would you deport someone born in Canada to?

Serious question by the way, would like to see your response.

X2

[sanjuanworm]

[Mackinaw]

Originally Posted by whiteout

Where would you deport someone born in Canada to?

Serious question by the way, would like to see your response.

Don't hold your breath ..... you will never get one..... it's easy to make foolish comments but to hard to make an informed one.

Mack

[whiteout]

Originally Posted by Mackinaw

Don't hold your breath ..... you will never get one..... it's easy to make foolish comments but to hard to make an informed one.

Mack

The scary/sad thing is that her kid(s) will be exposed to that kind of environment growing up and might not have another opinion to temper it against.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/c...utor-1.3368057

Cops catch them
Then they get bail so quickly the cops are angry.
Judges are angry at these clowns crying help then refusing to help or sitting with the attackers in court.

So if they call 911, then they change their story to say that they weren't being threatened or attacked, charge them with making fraudulent calls to 911.

[NEWB]

Originally Posted by whiteout

Where would you deport someone born in Canada to?

Serious question by the way, would like to see your response.

Quebec? They are essentially their own country with different laws....

[masalma]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

The gangbangers parents/families came on planes.
Those young kids coming now will grow up, majority of these families once government sponsorship is over and the cheques come to an end who aren't already living in middle east neighborhoods will migrate to these 'middle east burroughs' (birds of a feather flock together) and will grow up in an environment similar to what is producing these gang bangers. The grafitti is on the wall.

Or they become doctors, lawyers, engineers. Go for a visit to your local emergency room and see how many are there saving lives.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by masalma

Or they become doctors, lawyers, engineers. Go for a visit to your local emergency room and see how many are there saving lives.

What percentage of doctors in the ER room do you suppose are former gang members?

So how do you suppose the number of doctors saving lives compares to the number of gang members trying to take lives? How many become gang members, compared to how many become doctors?


Gangs are a growing problem in Canada, but our legal system is doing a great job of keeping us from being able to deal with them effectively.

[hillbillyreefer]

University quota system? Maybe we could add few more spots for our new guests, all expenses paid.

[FishingMOM]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

What percentage of doctors in the ER room do you suppose are former gang members?

Zero

How many of these gang bangers do you suspect hold duel citizenship?

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

What percentage of doctors in the ER room do you suppose are former gang members?

So how do you suppose the number of doctors saving lives compares to the number of gang members trying to take lives? How many become gang members, compared to how many become doctors?
.

You mean what proportion of kids of middle eastern descent grow up to become responsible, contributing citizens compared to the proportion who become gang members? Oh I don't know, maybe 500 to 1? Cops are saying there are 59 guys they think are involved, and not all of them are middle eastern. You do the math. This generalizing about the entire population has to stop. It's for morons only. And no, not referring to you elk.

[ex811]

Originally Posted by Mackinaw

Don't hold your breath ..... you will never get one..... it's easy to make foolish comments but to hard to make an informed one.

Mack

The Country of Jail would be a good place.
Why do you assume that these thugs are born here? Allot of these MEOC individuals are similar to the older Asian FOTB (Fresh Off The Boat) members, in that they actually come from various countries in the region.
I still work in NE Calgary. And while that area had always had it's challenges, it's downright scary now.

[Sleddawg]

Originally Posted by whiteout

Where would you deport someone born in Canada to?

Serious question by the way, would like to see your response.

I would put them in the military. Auction them off to any country looking for infantry men. Make a little on the side. They want to shoot guns and kill people well there is a lot of places you can do that now.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You mean what proportion of kids of middle eastern descent grow up to become responsible, contributing citizens compared to the proportion who become gang members? Oh I don't know, maybe 500 to 1? Cops are saying there are 59 guys they think are involved, and not all of them are middle eastern. You do the math. This generalizing about the entire population has to stop. It's for morons only. And no, not referring to you elk.

The post that I was referring to specified doctors, so that is why I asked specifically about doctors.

I would put them in the military. Auction them off to any country looking for infantry men. Make a little on the side. They want to shoot guns and kill people well there is a lot of places you can do that now.

The military might be good for all gang bangers, they could learn some discipline, and the military justice system might be more effective in dealing with them, if they don't behave.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You mean what proportion of kids of middle eastern descent grow up to become responsible, contributing citizens compared to the proportion who become gang members? Oh I don't know, maybe 500 to 1? Cops are saying there are 59 guys they think are involved, and not all of them are middle eastern. You do the math. This generalizing about the entire population has to stop. It's for morons only. And no, not referring to you elk.

Agree, well said.

[huntsfurfish]

Ibtl or ibtdt

[KGB]

"Those identified by police are mostly young men of Middle Eastern descent — although like the Asian street gangs of the early 2000s, they're not exclusively one ethnicity.

Internally, police have used a label of MEOC — Middle Eastern organized crime — but they are trying to avoid that inflammatory designation."
And again we are playing the political correctness game. Call the kettle black...
When my daughter was attending high school, guess who was pushing drugs there? - you are correct, the "labs". The brown guys, Lebanese. And it was well known by everybody at school. And nothing was done as far as I remember.
I was visiting one of the retail store in the north of Edmonton. I saw 5 cars parked and the MEOC guys where exchanging "stuff" right in front of the store windows. I asked the sales guy about it and he said it is a daily occurrence.
Stereotyping? YOU BET!!!!!

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

Zero

How many of these gang bangers do you suspect hold duel citizenship?

[JimPS]

MEOC — Middle Eastern Organized Crime = Northeast Calgary Organized Crime.

Specifically Lebanese, Turks, Somalians or what else?

Lets call a spade a spade here.

Middle East is just too politically correct for my liking.

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by whiteout

The scary/sad thing is that her kid(s) will be exposed to that kind of environment growing up and might not have another opinion to temper it against.

I think you should get a feel for the attitude within high-schools where many of these gang relationships or the racially/religious/cultural related attitudes and tensions are being formed. Also take a look at pop culture and the examples they are giving society on how to act and think. We are glorifying as examples gangster rappers and making them very wealthy and influential with teenagers.

The more we bury our head in the sand and try to sign Kum-ba-yah or sharing a coke with the world, the less likely we are to deal with the underlying cause of these problems. The more we ignore the root causes and pretend we do not have a issue the more we allow the problem to fester and harden viewpoints.

Basically in Canada, we have no way to enforce integration and stomp out racial/religious/cultural cliques that perpetuate the problem and thus reinforce the stereotypes and the reactions of the general public starting to form negative opinions of these cliques. We are slowing dividing society up into violent tribalism. Anybody who has watched what has happened in Ferguson, Baltimore, the Idle No More, the riots in France, etc can see the slow development of this. The projects in Chicago were also an example of creating a problem by this separation.

All the politically correct newspeak and editing is just trying to stop the issues and causes and then the solutions from even being discussed. The backlash to the politically correct Krap, is happening........and the lines are being divided more and more. Liberalism has gotten to be so politically correct and defensive of any questioning of what society is doing, that it goes instantly into the name calling and plugging of ears. This is also a sign that ideologically and intellectually it has lost its connection to pragmatic reality and is now just operating and pushing agenda on pure emotional and wishful thinking regardless of the negative outcomes. It is the equivalent of running out on thin ice and screaming that everyone(society) MUST join you for the greater good.

Now don't take what I am saying as advocating racism......because if you do, you don't have a clue what I am saying.

So really the issue is that the current actions of Liberalism WILL only serve to reinforce the attitudes of (her kids) those that are willing to see the problems and their root causes and not be blinded by the liberal's brainwashing fear of offending someone and seeking the solutions versus burying their head in the sand, singing and drinking the cool-aid coke.