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Old 01-02-2017, 08:21 AM
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10 lbs !!!

What a pig of a rifle... Does it double as a battering ram ?

Beauty rifle, up for the challenge and climate I am sure,

Not much difference in weight about a pound between the old rifle to this one.
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:24 AM
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Military doctrine, is to have arms and accessories manufactured on your own soil. It's a logistics and supply chain requirement. Part of the ballooned price tag on these rifles is the absorption of manufacturing rights costs.

Far too much is being argued on such a small item. The price of this project pales in comparison to dollars wasted on trips to Paris, or funds sent to foreign lands, so more selfies can be taken.

FWIW the couple Innu and Inuit members of the Rangers I have contact with, aren't happy the rifle is in 7.62(.308), they woulda been happier with 5.56(.223). So much for the purpose built, consultation rhetoric.....
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:43 AM
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Polar bear...5.56 or 7.62....me I'd go with the later
These boys seem to like it.
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:53 AM
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Polar bear...5.56 or 7.62....me I'd go with the later
These boys seem to like it.
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These guys have been dumping bears, walrus, caribou, and the like with .222's and Hornets. They are hunters, and prefer smaller holes in stuff, cuz the price on hides is better that way.

So you're willing to judge things by how the media spins it?
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Serious question, does this rifle's action have a 6 o'clock ejector?
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:48 PM
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These guys have been dumping bears, walrus, caribou, and the like with .222's and Hornets. They are hunters, and prefer smaller holes in stuff, cuz the price on hides is better that way.

So you're willing to judge things by how the media spins it?
Nope no media spins here can't trust 'em.

Just a personal thought is all regarding a choice of calibre and the critters they face from fox to polar bear, me the 7.62 is my take or spin on it if given a choice.

Did a stint up north with them in the 80's as a young soldier, they know thier stuff for sure.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:42 PM
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Colt Canada is not making the receivers. I am not sure about the stocks.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:47 PM
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Military doctrine, is to have arms and accessories manufactured on your own soil. It's a logistics and supply chain requirement. Part of the ballooned price tag on these rifles is the absorption of manufacturing rights costs.

Far too much is being argued on such a small item. The price of this project pales in comparison to dollars wasted on trips to Paris, or funds sent to foreign lands, so more selfies can be taken.

FWIW the couple Innu and Inuit members of the Rangers I have contact with, aren't happy the rifle is in 7.62(.308), they woulda been happier with 5.56(.223). So much for the purpose built, consultation rhetoric.....

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/e...ers/index.page

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/en/4-crpg/patrols.page

A couple out of 5000?
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Military doctrine, is to have arms and accessories manufactured on your own soil. It's a logistics and supply chain requirement. Part of the ballooned price tag on these rifles is the absorption of manufacturing rights costs.

Far too much is being argued on such a small item. The price of this project pales in comparison to dollars wasted on trips to Paris, or funds sent to foreign lands, so more selfies can be taken.

FWIW the couple Innu and Inuit members of the Rangers I have contact with, aren't happy the rifle is in 7.62(.308), they woulda been happier with 5.56(.223). So much for the purpose built, consultation rhetoric.....




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Old 01-03-2017, 01:00 PM
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These guys have been dumping bears, walrus, caribou, and the like with .222's and Hornets. They are hunters, and prefer smaller holes in stuff, cuz the price on hides is better that way.

So you're willing to judge things by how the media spins it?
If you have tanned and mounted bears then you realize that bullet hole damage from 30 cal and up is insignificant to the finished product.
If you are shooting a bear in the head for self defence, then the amount of damage caused should be the last thing you are considering at the time.
Even head shots can be repaired.
I'm not sure what the going rate is on a walrus hide is but I wouldn't think a 30 cal hole would not down grade it.
I would hazard a guess that the 303 served them well for years so dropping diameter would offer no benefit.
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Then why does colt need a licence from sako to make the rifle
because colt is making the sako rifles???
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because colt is making the sako rifles???
Yes because colt is making the sako rifles. Thzt means sako is not making them because colt is making them. Colt is not = sako.. if you want to follow bergerboys analogy if norinco made a r8 blaser knockoff he would say its a blaser. Not saying the colts mwill be no good. Even if they are the same quality if the govt payed sako for building the rifles after colt made them colt would be pretty mad because they made them and never got payed. So i dont think its just me that says colt and sako are the not same i bet they would agree
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So much for the purpose built, consultation rhetoric.....
Does the military regularly consult with troops about what weapons they would like? Which ones they prefer for their off-duty activities?

Purpose built? What is the purpose? The rangers are mostly a "force" to prove that we have "military presence" up there for sovereignty purposes. They aren't going to repel Russian paratroopers. Anything that LOOKS like a weapon in pictures fits the purpose.
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Yes because colt is making the sako rifles. Thzt means sako is not making them because colt is making them. Colt is not = sako.. if you want to follow bergerboys analogy if norinco made a r8 blaser knockoff he would say its a blaser. Not saying the colts mwill be no good. Even if they are the same quality if the govt payed sako for building the rifles after colt made them colt would be pretty mad because they made them and never got payed. So i dont think its just me that says colt and sako are the not same i bet they would agree
Someone translate. I read this one 3 solid tries and am having comprehension issues.
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Does the military regularly consult with troops about what weapons they would like? Which ones they prefer for their off-duty activities?

Purpose built? What is the purpose? The rangers are mostly a "force" to prove that we have "military presence" up there for sovereignty purposes. They aren't going to repel Russian paratroopers. Anything that LOOKS like a weapon in pictures fits the purpose.
Thats right if they think their wolf pelts are more important than their ranger purpose perhaps leadership is lacking
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:49 PM
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10 lbs without scope ......no thanks. Hope the rangers are happy with it.
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10 lbs without scope ......no thanks. Hope the rangers are happy with it.
Ya, I would think you could shave a pound off without compromising strength.
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:47 AM
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10 round magazine !!!
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10 lbs without scope ......no thanks. Hope the rangers are happy with it.
1lbs diff from old to new no biggie.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:03 AM
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10 lbs without scope ......no thanks. Hope the rangers are happy with it.
They're just shooting at game from the skidoo. Weight irrelevant.
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