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Old 09-27-2022, 10:51 AM
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At this point it is a bunch of posturing and blather, but, sure it'll raise a chuckle from Trudope and an absolutely assenine response from he and Mendicino, and some debate in the HOC where the Libs will beat on the AB MP's and the Cons over it.
Sort of my thoughts as well. It’s fairly unclear to me what exactly the Alberta Government has proper legal jurisdiction over and what they do not, but regardless this is good for at least hopefully bringing more to light on how ridiculous this proposed program is and hopefully to generate sober second discussion regarding this without there being the emotions of a recent mass killing swaying the debate.

It’s clear to anyone how this is going to be a multi billion dollar boondoggle with near negligible impact to public safety or quality of life. It’s incredible the impact that money could have on literally anything else (healthcare transfer payments perhaps?) and it’s likely to ruin a few lives when some otherwise law abiding folk get arrested and charged after not turning in their firearms they refused to remit. It’s just so incredibly frustrating.
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Old 09-28-2022, 12:00 PM
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A lot of people are over thinking this. Alberta does not want any of it's policing budget wasted on a stupid "assault weapons" ban. They are not asking the RCMP to ignore any laws, rather they are telling them that this boondoggle is not ours to play around with.
Many municipal forces have already stated they don't have the physical resources (warehouse space, clerical staff and uniformed officers) to deal with the buy back. The feds are trying desperately to make their program work by down loading the work to local/provincial agencies. Alberta is publicly stating what all provinces will likely end up saying. The program belongs to Ottawa. Ottawa can pay the costs.
It is worth remembering that the long gun registry was killed by pointing out the enormous costs of a program that offered little utility.
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Old 09-29-2022, 09:50 AM
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And if the RCMP are tossed out of Alberta, it would greatly reduce his control over us.
I thought that as well; we might want to reconsider that sentiment.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...5-6e705b04836a
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Calgary police on board in principle with Ottawa gun buy-back plan

Gun violence remains top of mind for Calgary police, with the city tracking towards its worst year for shootings on record
Jason Herring Publishing date: Sep 28, 2022

Calgary’s police chief agrees in principle with the federal government’s plan to seize assault-style firearms, but says he needs to see more details before committing to his force’s involvement.

The Calgary Police Service has yet to receive details from Ottawa on how local police agencies will be asked to aid in the buy-back confiscation of about 30,000 firearms targeted by new legislation, Chief Mark Neufeld said at a Wednesday Calgary police commission meeting.

But he broadly supports the initiative to remove weapons the federal government considers assault-style, as gun violence remains top of mind for Calgary police, with the city tracking towards its worst year for shootings on record.

“There’s been a lot of discussion, but we haven’t gotten the specifics,” Neufeld said.

“We want to come at it from the lens of community safety, and also officer safety given the number of guns our officers are seizing on the street — I think the number was 330 year-to-date, expected to be in the 550 range by the end of the year.

“What’s pretty clear is mass shootings have occurred in the U.S. and those have occurred in Canada where they’ve involved those types of weapons, and the devastation has been much worse due to the use and availability of those kind of weapons.”

However, Calgary police will need to hear details on what’s expected of them so they can evaluate how it will impact staffing needs, Neufeld said. He nodded to some other concerns, including the process for people bringing firearms into police stations.

The comments come following an Alberta government press conference earlier in the week when Justice Minister Tyler Shandro said the UCP government will fight the federal buy-back policy, and will ask the RCMP not to participate in those efforts.

In response, federal Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino’s office said they plan to continue working with police, governments, industry and gun owners to implement its plans to remove those guns from the public’s hands.

Calgary is in the midst of a spate of shootings which has the city on track for its highest rates of gun violence ever.

Through Sept. 27, there had been 106 shootings in the city in 2022 — the most recent of which took place just past 4 p.m. Tuesday afternoon in the 1700 block of 28 Avenue S.W., a daytime incident in a busy residential area which police say they believe was targeted.

Presenting data to the police commission on the city’s first 100 shootings of the year, Supt. Scott Boyd said 26 of those are thought to be linked to organized crime.

“The violence can be directly attributed to the wanton and reckless behaviour of a few individuals in our city, who do not reflect the same caring beliefs and values that the majority of Calgarians display,” Boyd said.

Through Sept. 12, just more than half of the city’s homicides in the year — 12 of 21 — involved a victim killed by gunshot injuries.

The guns involved in those crimes originate from a wide array of places. Some are smuggled into Canada or created using 3D printers, while others are stolen in commercial or residential break-and-enters. But the source of a number of guns remains unknown, as their serial numbers have been illegally removed.

Boyd said shootings aren’t occurring only in one area of the city, and don’t trend to any specific time of day or day of the week.

“Crime literally knows no boundaries and gun violence should be a concern for all Calgary, not just those that live anecdotally in high crime areas,” said Boyd, issuing a plea for those with knowledge that could help police prevent gun violence to come forward, particularly amid declining cooperation from victims.

“We literally are getting calls from somebody showing up at a hospital with a gunshot wound to their leg and telling us that they don’t want anything to do with us. That degree of cooperation or lack thereof that we’re experiencing is making solving these serious crimes that much more difficult.”
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Old 09-29-2022, 09:59 AM
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I thought that as well; we might want to reconsider that sentiment.

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Old 09-29-2022, 11:04 AM
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I thought that as well; we might want to reconsider that sentiment.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...5-6e705b04836a
I wonder where they do they practise, and do their shooting qualifications? If it's a range operated outside of the city/police, perhaps they should dent CPS access?
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Old 09-29-2022, 11:27 AM
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I wonder where they do they practise, and do their shooting qualifications? If it's a range operated outside of the city/police, perhaps they should dent CPS access?
They have their own 100 meter outdoor covered range at their North Service Centre in NE Calgary. I don't know if they utilize any private facilities in their official capacity.

https://www.stantec.com/en/projects/...door-gun-range
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Apparently Saskatchewan is following suit!

https://www.westernstandard.news/new...2fd933bea.html
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:58 PM
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Someone asked previously why Alberta would bother setting up their own firearm license processing (and more) administration to replace that of the feds.

Here's the short answer:

Alberta gun owners struggle to renew licenses due to massive federal delays


With hunting seasons open across Alberta, many firearms owners are finding themselves facing a difficult decision.

To have a firearm you must have a possession and acquisition license – also known as a PAL – but unusually long delays in renewing licenses means some will have to pass on their annual hunting trips or risk running afoul of the law.

The delays are affecting as many as 60,000 or 70,000 Albertans this year and Alberta's chief firearms officer Teri Bryant says applications are taking between six and nine months to complete.


https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-g...lays-1.6096055

I do not know if these delays are intentional, or due to incompetence. However it is quite clear problems with the current system exist and Alberta is preparing to tackle them head on.

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Old 10-15-2022, 03:10 PM
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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith spoke with reporters at the legislative building in Edmonton after her first cabinet meeting.

The premier faced questions from reporters about her legislative priorities including her proposed Alberta Sovereignty Act. Smith echoed Justice Minister Tyler Shandro's position on the Trudeau governments federal buyback plan that would see the national RCMP enforce the confiscation of Albertans legally owned property.

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