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Old 08-16-2022, 10:06 PM
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I just came across these made by Kynoch in 10rd boxes kind of a neat cartridge I read about used by African settlers. Picking them up tomorrow.Only knew of two people that actually owned a gun of this calibre. Half way between a .35 Rem and a .358 Win in HP. Supposed to be .356 groove but most measure .358 or better.
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Old 08-17-2022, 06:55 AM
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I hadonw for a few years that I got from Old Badger.
We swadged down .366 bullets for it IIRC , worked pretty danged well.
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:28 AM
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One blue /yellow box CIL 38 S+W Special full box, two full boxes of FN.303 1950 for Bren as well Canadian SMG 9mm ammo 1950 era one box 7/8 full?
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:48 AM
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I did not know the 9x57 was an actual cartridge, I just though guys posted 9.3x57 wrong. Pulled this off Wikipedia. Learn something new every day,

The 9×57mm Mauser is a cartridge based on the 7.92×57mm Mauser. It uses the identical 57 mm-long cartridge case, with the same shoulder angle, but necked up to accept a 9 mm-diameter bullet. Ballistically - but not dimensionally - it is indistinguishable from the 9×56mm Mannlicher–Schoenauer. It is currently regarded as a semi-obsolete calibre, although hand-loading keeps it alive.
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1 Performance
2 Firearms using the 9×57
3 Commercial production
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References

Performance

Firing a relatively heavy bullet of 14–16 g (220–250 grains) at a modest velocity of 670–700 m/s (2,200–2,300 ft/s), the 9×57mm is low in noise and recoil, pleasant to shoot, and regarded as accurate and effective on all but the very largest, most dangerous game at distances out to 250–300 m (300-350 yd).

The cartridge's low velocity combined with the heavy, poorly streamlined bullet, gives the 9×57 a relatively poor trajectory, which makes it unsuited to shooting at longer ranges. This calibre was popular as a large-deer cartridge in Germany and Central Europe; and also in German spheres of influence in Africa in the early 20th century, such as German West Africa and German East Africa, where it was widely popular among European farmers and settlers for shooting plains game.[2] It also accounted for many lions and leopards. Its popularity was gradually eclipsed by the significantly more powerful, flatter-shooting, 9.3×62 Mauser cartridge. The CIP maximum average pressure (MAP) for the 9×57 is 280 MPa bar (40,600 PSI).
Firearms using the 9×57

Many beautifully-made sporting rifles in 9×57mm caliber, often dating from well before 1939, are still giving their owners good service today.[2] However, dependable, recently manufactured factory ammunition is increasingly expensive and hard to obtain, and many users must rely on handloading.

Many of these Mauser rifles were made from de-militarized World War I small ring M98 rifles by many gunsmiths throughout Germany, and usually these are rebored (oversized from 7.92×57mm). When barrels eventually wear out, 9×57mm rifles are generally rebarrelled in other, more modern calibres.[citation needed]

The cartridge was popular around the world and was even chambered in Remington Model 30 and Winchester Model 54 rifles.[1]
Commercial production
The Eley-Kynoch 9×57 cartridge manufactured by the company at its Birmingham, England factory up to the 1950s used fully jacketed and soft-nosed, round-nosed, flat-based bullets weighing 16.1 grams (248 gr), with an average muzzle velocity of 690 m/s (2,300 ft/s). Factory-loaded ammunition is now increasingly hard to come by, and most users handload, using either fire-formed 9×57 brass or modified 7×57 or 8×57 cases necked up to accept 9 mm diameter bullets.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:12 AM
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Manufactured at Kynoch Factories of Imperial Chemical Industries Limited Metals Division Witton Birmingham England
Notice: The demand being insufficient to warrant production,these cartridges are imported for the convenience of our customers. Sold by Canadian Industries Limited Ammunition Division Montreal Canada
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:18 AM
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I have friend with a Winchester 54 in 9x57 it is quite a nice rifle a very fine stalking rifle indeed
Adequate for anything at moderate range
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