Oilers 2019/2020 regular and playoff thread - Page 24

Jamie · #**691** 11-09-2019, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 1899b

But Flamers will tell you Lucic is doing exactly what they want him to do... lol

Seriously though.. What else does he have.
I like the effort, the smile and his way of thinking about the game. he seems happy. Did you honestly think ANYONE expected anything more than that?

But the most important part in all this was the ability to then sign Tkachuk. By Edmonton paying 12.5% of Milans salary, it frees up approx. $500,000. In essence, you guys helped us sign one of the most exciting and effective players in the league. In exchange, we gave up some useless parts that you guys managed to shine up for a game or 2 (Perhaps even a season?). How does James Neil for Mathew Tkachuck, Milan Lucic and possibly a 3rd round draft pick sound? Oh yeah.. And you paid Lucic's signing bonus.

Does James Neil doing anything stick in my craw.. Yes it does. We paid him a **** load of $$$ and he craped the bed here. Am I glad he is gone.. ABSOLUTELY.. Was the trade worth it.. Everyday.. All day long. Enjoy his skill set. I believe he has the ability to really be effective. Question is.. Will he ? So far this year you guys are seeing some smoke. Might be a fire there, might just be a smoke screen. 25% of his goals came in one game. His stats are showing him to be a defensive Liability. I do not understand "Advanced Stats" perhaps someone can look at those and give a better opinion.

270person · #**692** 11-09-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Seriously though.. What else does he have.

A huge contract that doesn't make a bunch of sense to buy out while he's contributing ZERO. I'd imagine it'll be a long time before the grin comes off Holland's face.

Something for nothing. Always a good bet.

Talking moose · #**693** 11-09-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 270person

A huge contract that doesn't make a bunch of sense to buy out while he's contributing ZERO. I'd imagine it'll be a long time before the grin comes off Holland's face.

Something for nothing. Always a good bet.

So much denial.

270person · #**694** 11-09-2019, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 1899b

But Flamers will tell you Lucic is doing exactly what they want him to do... lol

Keeping the bench from floating away during the next flood?

1899b · #**695** 11-09-2019, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Seriously though.. What else does he have.
I like the effort, the smile and his way of thinking about the game. he seems happy. Did you honestly think ANYONE expected anything more than that?

But the most important part in all this was the ability to then sign Tkachuk. By Edmonton paying 12.5% of Milans salary, it frees up approx. $500,000. In essence, you guys helped us sign one of the most exciting and effective players in the league. In exchange, we gave up some useless parts that you guys managed to shine up for a game or 2 (Perhaps even a season?). How does James Neil for Mathew Tkachuck, Milan Lucic and possibly a 3rd round draft pick sound? Oh yeah.. And you paid Lucic's signing bonus.

Does James Neil doing anything stick in my craw.. Yes it does. We paid him a **** load of $$$ and he craped the bed here. Am I glad he is gone.. ABSOLUTELY.. Was the trade worth it.. Everyday.. All day long. Enjoy his skill set. I believe he has the ability to really be effective. Question is.. Will he ? So far this year you guys are seeing some smoke. Might be a fire there, might just be a smoke screen. 25% of his goals came in one game. His stats are showing him to be a defensive Liability. I do not understand "Advanced Stats" perhaps someone can look at those and give a better opinion.

I will admit I’d love either Tkachuck on my team. Both are awesome
players just like their Dad was.

huntsfurfish · #**696** 11-09-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Got go wash my hands now...

Besides.. I don't think I qualify.. I was told you had to have a Mullet and a grade 4 education.

I am losing my hair so thats not going to happen.

No problem, we would relax the hair conditions, but you would still have to go back to school to get your grade 4.

Dark Wing · #**697** 11-09-2019, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

No problem, we would relax the hair conditions, but you would still have to go back to school to get your grade 4.

LOL...……. What's long and hard on a Flamer...…………………. The third grade

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gman1978 · #**698** 11-09-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Seriously though.. What else does he have.
I like the effort, the smile and his way of thinking about the game. he seems happy. Did you honestly think ANYONE expected anything more than that?

But the most important part in all this was the ability to then sign Tkachuk. By Edmonton paying 12.5% of Milans salary, it frees up approx. $500,000. In essence, you guys helped us sign one of the most exciting and effective players in the league. In exchange, we gave up some useless parts that you guys managed to shine up for a game or 2 (Perhaps even a season?). How does James Neil for Mathew Tkachuck, Milan Lucic and possibly a 3rd round draft pick sound? Oh yeah.. And you paid Lucic's signing bonus.

Does James Neil doing anything stick in my craw.. Yes it does. We paid him a **** load of $$$ and he craped the bed here. Am I glad he is gone.. ABSOLUTELY.. Was the trade worth it.. Everyday.. All day long. Enjoy his skill set. I believe he has the ability to really be effective. Question is.. Will he ? So far this year you guys are seeing some smoke. Might be a fire there, might just be a smoke screen. 25% of his goals came in one game. His stats are showing him to be a defensive Liability. I do not understand "Advanced Stats" perhaps someone can look at those and give a better opinion.

Can you be my banker???

Rig-Rat · #**699** 11-09-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 270person

A huge contract that doesn't make a bunch of sense to buy out while he's contributing ZERO. I'd imagine it'll be a long time before the grin comes off Holland's face.

Something for nothing. Always a good bet.

So in all seriousness you think Looch is contributing NOTHING to the Flames?? You don't think we have benefited at all?
If goals are the only way you see a player contributing to a team 90% of the Coilers are non contributors as well..
I disagree I think we filled a hole we didn't have ,but I guess I am just in denial

boah · #**700** 11-09-2019, 12:53 PM

Lucic does contribute. He makes the whole team look faster.

270person · #**701** 11-09-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

LOL...……. What's long and hard on a Flamer...…………………. The third grade

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Tough 2 years for most.

elk eater · #**702** 11-09-2019, 02:08 PM

Jamie your trying to say you got Chucky in the deal is a joke. You obviously don’t like the trade now that Neal is on FIRE. YES 12 goals in 18 games is fire not smoke. The trade was Neal for Lucic. And yes you may get a draft pick. As for Lucic doing what he does sure. If I was Flames fan I would want him suspended as mich as possible. Lots of guys that can do what Lucic does for a lot less than 5.5m a year.

270person · #**703** 11-09-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rig-Rat

So in all seriousness you think Looch is contributing NOTHING to the Flames?? You don't think we have benefited at all?
If goals are the only way you see a player contributing to a team 90% of the Coilers are non contributors as well..
I disagree I think we filled a hole we didn't have ,but I guess I am just in denial

Yes.

No.

Biased is probably a better term.

Talking moose · #**704** 11-09-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elk eater

Jamie your trying to say you got Chucky in the deal is a joke. You obviously don’t like the trade now that Neal is on FIRE. YES 12 goals in 18 games is fire not smoke. The trade was Neal for Lucic. And yes you may get a draft pick. As for Lucic doing what he does sure. If I was Flames fan I would want him suspended as mich as possible. Lots of guys that can do what Lucic does for a lot less than 5.5m a year.

Jamie.
This. It’s okay man....

Talking moose · #**705** 11-09-2019, 02:49 PM

The funny thing is Jamie thought it was a huge joke that Edmonton had looch tied in at 6.5 million and laughed his arse off....
The very next year the flames take him over at 5.5 mill....
Now it’s a wonderful deal... lol
Oh and they gave up a 12 goal scorer in 18 games with the deal. Oh the hypocrisy!

Rig-Rat · #**706** 11-09-2019, 02:56 PM

The koolaid is too strong for some in here I see.

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Jamie · #**707** 11-09-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elk eater

Jamie your trying to say you got Chucky in the deal is a joke. You obviously don’t like the trade now that Neal is on FIRE. YES 12 goals in 18 games is fire not smoke. The trade was Neal for Lucic. And yes you may get a draft pick. As for Lucic doing what he does sure. If I was Flames fan I would want him suspended as mich as possible. Lots of guys that can do what Lucic does for a lot less than 5.5m a year.

Elk.. We did.. Thats exactly why this trade was made. Come one everyone knows that... You think it was for Loochs good looks? This was 100% about cap space. (I was wrong it's not $500,000 but in fact $750,000 worth of cap space per year)We traded what was a useless part for a part your team that was useless. BUT we got the got space that we needed. and thats why MT signed up again.
So yeah.. THANK YOU. Seems it might have worked out well for both sides. Interested to see how you guys feel about this if it costs you another draft pick and things continue to slide down hill for the real deal. it's early though.

Talking moose · #**708** 11-09-2019, 02:58 PM

Continue to slide downhill? Lol.
12 goals in 18 games is downhill?
Anyone on the flames roster doing that?
Nope.

Jamie · #**709** 11-09-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

The funny thing is Jamie thought it was a huge joke that Edmonton had looch tied in at 6.5 million and laughed his arse off....
The very next year the flames take him over at 5.5 mill....
Now it’s a wonderful deal... lol
Oh and they gave up a 12 goal scorer in 18 games with the deal. Oh the hypocrisy!

I laughed my ass off at you guys giving the bank to your Goalie... I 100% admit to making fun of Looch. However the ability to get cap space and have a bad contract in exchange for a bad contact works for me. The money was spent. this improved things by having the cap space and having Looch as a person on the team. He is showing some effort this year!!

How are you guys going to feel if Taylor Hall ends up back here? That would be interesting to say the least.

Jamie · #**710** 11-09-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

Continue to slide downhill? Lol.
12 goals in 18 games is downhill?
Anyone on the flames roster doing that?
Nope.

Moose.. If you don't see him starting to fall, I cant help you.. Lets bring it up in a month... One game has the ability to pump those stats up. Come talk with me in December.

Talking moose · #**711** 11-09-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I laughed my ass off at you guys giving the bank to your Goalie... I 100% admit to making fun of Looch. However the ability to get cap space and have a bad contract in exchange for a bad contact works for me. The money was spent. this improved things by having the cap space and having a pooch as a person on the team. He is showing some effort this year!!

How are you guys going to feel if Taylor Hall ends up back here? That would be interesting to say the least.

We can’t afford hall.

Jamie · #**712** 11-09-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

We can’t afford hall.

I mean here in Calgary....

Talking moose · #**713** 11-09-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Moose.. If you don't see him starting to fall, I cant help you.. Lets bring it up in a month... One game has the ability to pump those stats up. Come talk with me in December.

He’s basically a 20 goal scorer. That’s why we got him. He’s over halfway there already. Lol. He’s no 50 goal scorer. We are laughing.

Talking moose · #**714** 11-09-2019, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I mean here in Calgary....

Well it wouldn’t surprise me if your organization gave up Johnny and Matthew (not golden boy looch though....) to obtain Hall. Lol

MountainTi · #**715** 11-09-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Thats exactly why this trade was made. Come one everyone knows that... You think it was for Loochs good looks? This was 100% about cap space.

So you're saying Loochs ridiculous contract, that you're stuck with till it expires, was taken on to save $750000? This "everyone knows that", I'm thinking only Jamie knows that. If that is indeed the case, Trevling should be unemployed

Bigwoodsman · #**716** 11-09-2019, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Got go wash my hands now...

Besides.. I don't think I qualify.. I was told you had to have a Mullet and a grade 4 education.

I am losing my hair so thats not going to happen.

To be a shames fan I heard you need to have a toothless grin and be married to your first cousin!

BW

Jamie · #**717** 11-09-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

To be a shamed fan I heard you need to have a toothless grin and be married to your first cousin!

BW

Second... Get it straight...

So if a married couple who happen to be Oiler fans get divorced, are they still brother and sister?

bessiedog · #**718** 11-09-2019, 03:20 PM

Man.... Hall in the flaming C...

That would be a BOA supreme man...

I wish my hunting ride would get here.... tuck tock man! Them deer ain’t gon shoot themselves.... grrrr!

brendan's dad · #**719** 11-09-2019, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Elk.. We did.. Thats exactly why this trade was made. Come one everyone knows that... You think it was for Loochs good looks? This was 100% about cap space. (I was wrong it's not $500,000 but in fact $750,000 worth of cap space per year)We traded what was a useless part for a part your team that was useless. BUT we got the got space that we needed. and thats why MT signed up again.
So yeah.. THANK YOU. Seems it might have worked out well for both sides. Interested to see how you guys feel about this if it costs you another draft pick and things continue to slide down hill for the real deal. it's early though.

Cap Space?????? Weren't you and Trochu bragging last year how great Calgary's cap issue was moving forward and Edmonton wasn't going to be able to afford a bag of pucks. What happen? Was there a super secret contract no one knew about?

Rig-Rat · #**720** 11-09-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Elk.. We did.. Thats exactly why this trade was made. Come one everyone knows that... You think it was for Loochs good looks? This was 100% about cap space. (I was wrong it's not $500,000 but in fact $750,000 worth of cap space per year)We traded what was a useless part for a part your team that was useless. BUT we got the got space that we needed. and thats why MT signed up again.
So yeah.. THANK YOU. Seems it might have worked out well for both sides. Interested to see how you guys feel about this if it costs you another draft pick and things continue to slide down hill for the real deal. it's early though.

Also the fact Neal and Peters were not working together, AT ALL. As much as I do think we should have got more, Neal did suck last year and there may have been more to it than we will ever know.. Either way even though more points would be nice, we are getting what we need from Looch, and for the ones who believe him and Neal should be equal in points?? HaHa well you should maybe look at stop watching hockey, as it is clearly not your thing.