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01-17-2018, 09:20 PM
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Let them keep a sturdy shoelace
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01-17-2018, 09:23 PM
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Do these fools realise why these inmates are in prison?
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01-17-2018, 09:36 PM
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If a lightbulb burns out you throw it away. Not everyone can be or wants to be rehabilitated. They just want out to do it again.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-17-2018, 10:04 PM
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A coffin or an urn are solitary confinement too, and those should definitely both be options!!
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01-18-2018, 07:48 AM
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On the other hand, if they're allowed out for an annual trip to the Dr and once for the dentist then that's twice a year they're allowed out! By definition that's not indefinite!
I love being a problem-solver
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01-18-2018, 07:51 AM
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Elected judges. Then they'll be accountable to the people if they want to keep their jobs.
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01-18-2018, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
If a lightbulb burns out you throw it away. Not everyone can be or wants to be rehabilitated. They just want out to do it again.
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Enabler society, that is what we are, I'm sorry, but some people don't deserve a second chance.
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01-18-2018, 08:55 AM
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Give them a stationary bicycle with a generator hooked up so they can pay their debt. Then they wont need to see the dr.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-18-2018, 09:01 AM
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Not such a bad thing. Some of these fellows are in solitary for their own protection. Let them out.😀
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01-18-2018, 09:11 AM
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Elected judges. Then they'll be accountable to the people if they want to keep their jobs.
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Agreed!
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01-18-2018, 09:16 AM
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Give them a stationary bicycle with a generator hooked up so they can pay their debt. Then they wont need to see the dr.
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This is a great idea. I think all prisons should be work camps where you work for extras just above what’s needed to survive. Work 12 hours, get a credit. Use credits to buy extras. Hot shower, warm meal, mattress, books=credits. Even if it won’t save a pile of money at least some might learn some skills or how to put in a days work.
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01-18-2018, 09:33 AM
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Solitary means they are safe and usually turn more crazy than they already are upon release. General population allows them to receive prison justice. Hmmmmm
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01-18-2018, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by buckbrush
This is a great idea. I think all prisons should be work camps where you work for extras just above what’s needed to survive. Work 12 hours, get a credit. Use credits to buy extras. Hot shower, warm meal, mattress, books=credits. Even if it won’t save a pile of money at least some might learn some skills or how to put in a days work.
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They used to do this with inmates in Kamloops. Not dangerous offenders though
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01-18-2018, 01:05 PM
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There should be limits on solitary confinement.not everyone in there is a murderer or rapist.solitary is used as a punishment within a punishment by a jail guard who has little man syndrome or a lousy home life.not always but sometimes.why should a jail guard be allowed to mete out indefinite punishment periods?jmo
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01-18-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mediumrare
There should be limits on solitary confinement.not everyone in there is a murderer or rapist.solitary is used as a punishment within a punishment by a jail guard who has little man syndrome or a lousy home life.not always but sometimes.why should a jail guard be allowed to mete out indefinite punishment periods?jmo
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Does any random guard do it or is ordered by the higher ups after investigation? The only thing I know about prison is what I see on TV, and it's going to stay that way.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-18-2018, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
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There should be limits on solitary confinement.not everyone in there is a murderer or rapist.solitary is used as a punishment within a punishment by a jail guard who has little man syndrome or a lousy home life.not always but sometimes.why should a jail guard be allowed to mete out indefinite punishment periods?jmo
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What were you in jail for? It's not supposed to be fun you know!
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01-18-2018, 02:49 PM
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Your convicted and go to jail, don't care what the crime was. While in jail, your a shat disturber and keep causing problems for you, guards and other inmates. You won't learn so whats left. Solitary confinement.
Now the supreme court says that's too harsh? Other than being locked up 24/7, it seems like the prison system has been progressively getting softer and much more tolerable for our poor, lost criminals.
How long before some snowflake defender challenges incarceration for being to harsh on these poor souls. This is getting ridiculous, where will it stop?
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01-18-2018, 03:07 PM
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If I thought keeping a troublesome dog in a small kennel with no window or outside contact was acceptable, I might think the same of a human. Nope, once I got ‘em locked up, I don’t need to be cruel.
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01-18-2018, 03:17 PM
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Funny you never hear in the spoon fed news we get what these people do to get solitary for 2 or 3 years.
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01-18-2018, 03:17 PM
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If I thought keeping a troublesome dog in a small kennel with no window or outside contact was acceptable, I might think the same of a human. Nope, once I got ‘em locked up, I don’t need to be cruel.
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If a dog has without provocation , bitten someone severely, let alone had killed someone, I would put the dog down, not keep it in a small kennel. Murderers, rapists, terrorists and armed robbers are treated far too nicely in our prisons.
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01-18-2018, 04:03 PM
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I believe this only applies to federal pens or country clubs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
If a dog has without provocation , bitten someone severely, let alone had killed someone, I would put the dog down, not keep it in a small kennel. Murderers, rapists, terrorists and armed robbers are treated far too nicely in our prisons.
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I have no issue with putting down a dog that bites me regardless of its motivation...but if I decided to lock it up forever, I wouldn’t treat it with cruelty.
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01-18-2018, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 260 Rem
If I thought keeping a troublesome dog in a small kennel with no window or outside contact was acceptable, I might think the same of a human. Nope, once I got ‘em locked up, I don’t need to be cruel.
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I fully agree.
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01-18-2018, 04:33 PM
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I do not understand the point of locking someone up forever. I wonder how many that receive mandatory life sentences ask for permanent relief?
After X years they should be sent to the next dimension, should give them enough time to put together any defense in the case of wrongful incarceration.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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01-18-2018, 04:35 PM
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If it got to that point why waste the heat,meals etc on this POS when the same piece of rope can take care of many of these stellar citizens...
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Two sides to the story for sure. I fear this is simply addressing one aspect of one side without looking at the overall picture and whether it's a system that's working properly and fairly. And by fair I mean first to victims and lastly to the perpetrators...
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