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Good timing on the Libtard Govt. for the announcement. THE FOURTH OF JULY!!
Oh yeah...Happy Canada Day Alberta...Uh Uh Uh
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I've likely spent less time in Her Majesties Service than most on this board. Only over 2 Decades.
I found the employment of children in military service throughout this timeframe, primarily on the African Contintinent.
Children LEARN.
I can only hope young Mr Khadr can complete his adult life in some dignity.
He deserves all of the settlement.
Blame the parents.
Children do not posses the faculty of the aged.
Please live a long and peaceful life Mr. Khadr, I can only hope this for you.
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I've likely spent less time in Her Majesties Service than most on this board. Only over 2 Decades.
I found the employment of children in military service throughout this timeframe, primarily on the African Contintinen
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I didn't realize being a member of ISIS constitutes Military Service.
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07-04-2017, 05:30 PM
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If your idea of free speech is being able to curse and insult people feel free to leave
It has nothing to do with being politically correct and has everything to do with being respectful towards others
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You seem a little hypocritical. Telling me to "stop flapping your ignorant gums" and "keep your yap shut". It was entirely uncalled for.
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07-04-2017, 05:35 PM
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So, Harper was so dead set against Khader. Why did he allow him back on Canadian soil?
Knowing full well that Khadr wouldn't spend too much time in a Canadian jail - why bring him back? I wonder what back door deals were made...
http://nationalpost.com/news/politic...a-e9c343750742
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The Harper government, which has already assured the Americans it would be "inclined to favourably consider" such a request, went to great lengths to frame a prospective repatriation as a move made after coaxing from the United States.
Canadian government sources told journalists that Washington "basically asked Canada for a diplomatic favour" in repatriating Mr. Khadr, one of this country's most notorious citizens.
The U.S., they said, "needs to get rid of this guy for their own reasons."
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Apparently, this could provide a great opportunity for the widow of the dead American soldier.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/...e-baf61b4bdb15
Hopefully she proceeds with further legal action, and Kadr doesn't get to keep the settlement money.
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So, Harper was so dead set against Khader. Why did he allow him back on Canadian soil?
Knowing full well that Khadr wouldn't spend too much time in a Canadian jail - why bring him back? I wonder what back door deals were made...
http://nationalpost.com/news/politic...a-e9c343750742
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For sure he should have never been allowed to come back. The other question is why reward him with 10 million and an official apology. That'd be in the Liberal Party's court.
I wonder who will get the "honor" of giving him the apology and the cheque? Probably our "honest" Defence Minister. Or maybe a bunch of selfies with tater tot him and the Defence Minister.
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At least tie it up in litigation for about another 10 years. By then he'll be a first responder in Edmonton...oh yea!!!
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07-04-2017, 05:47 PM
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I didn't realize being a member of ISIS constitutes Military Service.
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I understand how you may construe my typing as something that is official.
Children do not serve in a military capacity.
Perhaps I should have been more precise.
No known organizational professional military employs children in today's time frame professionally.
What Adults can talk kids into is a different beast.
Is that better 13mileranch?
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For sure he should have never been allowed to come back. The other question is why reward him with 10 million and an official apology. That'd be in the Liberal Party's court.
I wonder who will get the "honor" of giving him the apology and the cheque? Probably our "honest" Defence Minister. Or maybe a bunch of selfies with tater tot him and the Defence Minister.
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Maybe this will get things through your head.
Maher Arar, awarded $10.5 million for his torture in Syria. He deserved more than that. Why? Because the Canadian government was COMPLICIT in the TORTURE of an INNOCENT man. The man was innocent - but not according to the USA. In the USA you can be guilty until proven innocent and even then you may never be proven innocent, and face alot of torture in the process.
Should we as a nation be complicit in the torture of our citizens? Should we bring them home and torture them here.
And Maher Arar isn't the only one. Get it?
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I understand how you may construe my typing as something that is official.
Children do not serve in a military capacity.
Perhaps I should have been more precise.
No known organizational professional military employs children in today's time frame professionally.
What Adults can talk kids into is a different beast.
Is that better 13mileranch?
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Probably you shouldn't lump Military Service with ISIS..yes now you got it!
So why do you think the Liberals rewarded a terrorist with a huge lump of cash and an apology? Some kind of back room deal??
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07-04-2017, 05:54 PM
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Probably you shouldn't lump Military Service with ISIS..yes now you got it!
So why do you think the Liberals rewarded a terrorist with a huge lump of cash and an apology? Some kind of back room deal??
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I would like to think that it has something to do with the Rule of Law.
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I would like to think that it has something to do with the Rule of Law.
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And the Law would be? Please explain.
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I'm also bitter about this.
I sure hope they got 10.5 mill of information out of him before the let him free.
This is wrong in so many ways but now the precedence is set and the tax payers will pay. This decision will be used in all similar cases in the future.
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And the Law would be? Please explain.
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My oh my you are stubborn. Torture or complicity in torture is illegal under Canada law.
Thought you might have figured that out over Maher Arar et al.
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07-04-2017, 05:58 PM
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And the Law would be? Please explain.
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You will have to investigate warfare rule on your own. I'm retired.
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it would be nice to see our wounded vets getting that kind of payout, at least they were on the right side.
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Should we as a nation be complicit in the torture of our citizens? Should we bring them home and torture them here.
And Maher Arar isn't the only one. Get it?[/QUOTE
I worked in the Middle east and North Africa pretty much my whole career. I don't like Citizens of convenience, and I don't like your demeanor. You probably haven't even been outside our Country much. So when you do go there like I have done the last 35 years you behave yourself. Like don't go and try and kill American/British/Canadian Troops.
Khadr is the poster boy for Citizens of convenience. You bet Silverdoctor...it's ok to leave Canada and go kill Allied troops overseas...then give them an apology and a bunch of bucks..you Sir are really twisted in thought.
Now I spent too much time here and have to go back haying.
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it would be nice to see our wounded vets getting that kind of payout, at least they were on the right side.
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They were soldiers, not terrorists.
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You will have to investigate warfare rule on your own. I'm retired.
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First of all, terrorism is not warfare..secondly you are not retired just lame debate.
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So at what point does a citizen of Canada cross over to a meat bag that we can torture/hand over for torture?
Does Khadr have no rights?
I don't care for Khadr but our people broke our rules.... this is the reason for the payout.
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We neither tortured or handed over for torture. What we did, when such was eventually available to be done, was take him in and relieve him of the balance of his sentence, despite the blatant treason and ingratitude of he and his family. I have seen absolutely no evidence of any damages ("legal" or otherwise) caused to him by anyone but himself and his own family. How do my tax $ somehow end up putting this piece of ^&*# on luxury street for the rest of his life? I hope the real victim's family's lawyers are busy applying for an attachment order to head off every cent before he gets his miserable hands on any of it.
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First of all, terrorism is not warfare..secondly you are not retired just lame debate.
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Terrorism isn't warfare? So when the US armed the Jihad Mujahideen in Pakistan and sent them to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan - that wasn't warfare?
Ok, gotcha.
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First of all, terrorism is not warfare..secondly you are not retired just lame debate.
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I will now consider my time in the sandbox as terrorism. Thank you for your insight.
Hope your hay stuff is hayey.
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You seem a little hypocritical. Telling me to "stop flapping your ignorant gums" and "keep your yap shut". It was entirely uncalled for.
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When all you make are condescending, ignorant comments what do you expect people to say back?
No it was not uncalled for and you are still just a big troll who just wants to argue to stir crap.
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I will now consider my time in the sandbox as terrorism. Thank you for your insight.
Now that's intelligent..LOL
Hope your hay stuff is hayey.
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That's even more intelligent.
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And the Law would be? Please explain.
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If the Canadian government hadn't done anything then this wouldn't be happening. However when CISIS agents went to Cuba, interrogated Khadr and then turned the results over to the US Military then the GoC became complicit in the actions taken against him. It's not complicated.
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Terrorism isn't warfare? So when the US armed the Jihad Mujahideen in Pakistan and sent them to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan - that wasn't warfare?
Ok, gotcha.
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Never happened. Your knowledge of global events should stretch farther than West Edmonton Mall theme rooms.
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I've got to get back to business, but really I can't believe the number of people (well 3-4) that believe this terrorist is being treated with just rewards. I'm done!!!
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I will now consider my time in the sandbox as terrorism. Thank you for your insight.
Hope your hay stuff is hayey.
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Were you part of an army that followed the rules of warfare, or did you commit acts of terrorism , like rounding up hostages and executing them ,or setting off bombs intended to kill civilians? That is the difference between soldiers and terrorists.
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