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01-20-2016, 11:04 AM
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Depriming brass
I got my press mounted up after I finally got the bench together. I put in my 30/06 depriming die, my #2 shell holder and I start to pop out primers. I have done 2 so far. First one come out no problems, 2nd one just wouldn't come out. It came out about half way and got stuck. Then I had to drill out the spent primer just to reclaim the shell holder.
Is that something common with factory loaded brass? It was almost like it had an adhesive holding the primer in. I have a few more (100) rounds to deprime, and then start on my 22-250 if time allows and I can get them seperated.
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01-20-2016, 11:08 AM
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lower the pin in the die?
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01-20-2016, 11:11 AM
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lower the pin in the die?
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That was my first thought also.
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01-20-2016, 11:12 AM
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I have tried in the position it was set and from the guy I got it from and buried the threads. It still hasn't helped. Maybe I just got a bad primer stuck in? I'm just a little hesitant to try again. I've never done any reloading at all. I bought the RCBS DVD and I am going to watch that as well. I just don't want to screw up myself or my equipment before I even really start into this journey.
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01-20-2016, 11:18 AM
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Is the decapping pin partly broken off, or too short? How far does it protrude out of the die?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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01-20-2016, 11:19 AM
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if memory serves they should extend beyond the bottom of the die about 3/8"
so that little back knobby thing on top just screw that down until the pin sticks further out
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01-20-2016, 11:20 AM
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I just looked at the pin and its in one price, not broken
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01-20-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
if memory serves they should extend beyond the bottom of the die about 3/8"
so that little back knobby thing on top just screw that down until the pin sticks further out
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Don't go too far, or you will bottom the rod in the case, and bend the rod.
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01-20-2016, 11:22 AM
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I just looked at the pin and its in one price, not broken
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How long is it?
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01-20-2016, 11:22 AM
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I just measured it with my calipers at 0.331" so it should be plenty long according to what you're saying. I can seem to thread it down anymore either.
I just tried another one, Federal brass again, and the primer did move. It just won't come out. This time it didn't stick in the shell holder though.
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01-20-2016, 11:25 AM
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01-20-2016, 11:26 AM
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The pin isn't bent either. Yet.....
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01-20-2016, 11:29 AM
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Is it a depriming die, usually a lee depriming die is universal?
Your picture looks like a full length die?
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01-20-2016, 11:32 AM
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The die is a long ways from touching the shell holder.Is the handle all the way down?
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01-20-2016, 11:33 AM
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Your die has to come down further, then check how far down your decapping pin is sitting bellow the die.
The way it is set up you are barely touching the primer I think.
You may also not be getting much neck tension with the die that far up.
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01-20-2016, 11:35 AM
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Is it a depriming die, usually a lee depriming die is universal?
Your picture looks like a full length die?
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Lee builds universal decapping dies but that is a FL 30/06 die.
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01-20-2016, 11:36 AM
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The decapper clamp could be loose?
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01-20-2016, 11:39 AM
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I reset the die back to the height it should be at, from what I can tell. I put the piston all the way up, threaded the die in until it touched, backed the piston off and screwed the die in another 1/4 turn. Then I fought to loosen the pin clamp on top and set that in further. Now they are coming out a fair bit easier. Not as easy as I thought they would be they are coming out.
Thank you for all of the help. Reading these replies has gotten me on to the righ path.
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01-20-2016, 11:41 AM
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Your problem is you are not luvricating the case with case luve therefore the case is not going all the way into the fl die. If you force it you will stick the case. Lube the case with a case luve and try again.
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01-20-2016, 11:43 AM
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your problem is you are not luvricating the case with case luve therefore the case is not going all the way into the fl die. If you force it you will stick the case. Lube the case with a case luve and try again.
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01-20-2016, 11:46 AM
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Lee builds universal decapping dies but that is a FL 30/06 die.
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01-20-2016, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
Your problem is you are not luvricating the case with case luve therefore the case is not going all the way into the fl die. If you force it you will stick the case. Lube the case with a case luve and try again.
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01-20-2016, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
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Lee builds universal decapping dies but that is a FL 30/06 die.
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Are you using case lube, as mentioned this is a full length die and possibly getting to the tightmbase is indication you are at the end of the stroke?
I see Dean has beat me to it.........
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01-20-2016, 11:53 AM
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This forum can be a good reference; hotwheels81 has a sticky at the top of this section that has information that can also help.
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01-20-2016, 11:59 AM
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Make sure you spread the lube over the case from top to bottom evenly, use you fingers to wipe it on. It does not take a thick coat. If you have a dry neck graphiter lube kit, such as the Forster (Lyman has one as well), to lube the inside of the neck with, you will feel the difference immediately. It will ease the button drag coming back out. The dry graphite kit lasts for ages.
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01-20-2016, 12:00 PM
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This forum can be a good reference; hotwheels81 has a sticky at the top of this section that has information that can also help.
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I looked in there but found nothing that referenced what I was doing. But I will be revisiting it when I'm fully set up to get the rest of the things done.
After reading the thoughts here I have now done 30 in a row, no case lube, with no issue. Once I had the pin depth set right, it became easy.
Once again, thank you all.
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01-20-2016, 12:03 PM
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Many Lee dies are much shorter than other brands and can be problematic in Dillon tool-heads and other presses.
You can remove the die lock nut and use with no lock nut to position lower in the Breech-loc bushing, or place the nut on the bottom of the die under the press frame.
What I suspect is more concerning is how you will get the FL, NK or DL seating die to properly contact the shell holder for those operations.
It is always possible (but unlikely) the ram or some part of the linkage is not correct for your new press. I am not familiar with that model of Lee press but ISTM that the ram should be lower in the press at the bottom of stroke (handle up) as well as higher in the opening at the top of stroke (handle down) position which makes me suspect an incorrect linkage part.
I suggest you carefully measure the pin to pin length of the linkages and ram or even better take pictures of a tape measure next to the handle link and intermediate (tension) link and ram showing their pin to pin and pin to top of ram lengths and email all photos to Lee customer service.
Good Luck, YMMV.
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I had not noticed the identifying die stamp and wrongly assumed a universal de-priming die. I was also mislead by your statement in post #12 that the ram in the photo was in full up position.
If this is a lube problem, I recommend Redding/Imperial Sizing Die Wax.
Good Luck, YMMV.
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You are getting the primer out okay but with that set up and no lube you are not resizing the neck or the case body. Try sliding a new bullet into the neck and u will find it slides in and out easily. This is NOT what u want. Also unless the brass came out of the same gun it likely won't chamber either.
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