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11-23-2020, 08:45 AM
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Keep your dogs at home
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11-23-2020, 08:51 AM
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I see acreage dogs running deer more often than I should.
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11-23-2020, 08:53 AM
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We had a pack running around sandgudo area years ago it didn’t take long to deal with them.
If they are someones dogs there should be charges.
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11-23-2020, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
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Originally Posted by Tfng
I see acreage dogs running deer more often than I should.
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Not just acreages, the law is clear and farmers don't hesitate to exercise it. Your dog is only your dog within your property boundaries .
Grizz
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11-23-2020, 10:02 AM
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I don't know if you guys recall the firestorm a couple years back about a family pet being snared at a coyote bait pile in Parkland County. It was in the papers, on CBC, and all over social media. Feces storm in the highest degree.
The trapper in question was my Godson, and I introduced him to the landowner who was having big problems with coyotes getting his calves (dairy farmer). My son and I actually helped setup that particular bait pile.
The dog that got caught, and later found frozen by its owner, was over a mile and a half away from its acreage running loose. In fact, it was an aggressive dog who came right into the farmer's yard and got aggressive toward another AO member a few weeks before it got caught in the trapper's snare. That dog's death was squarely the fault of its negligent owner.
I am a dog person. However, if that pack of dogs in the story were running wild, and harassing wildlife on my property, I would attempt to take care of them in my own way.
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11-23-2020, 10:18 AM
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11-23-2020, 10:52 AM
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In my personal experience, this is very rare...
Those who advocate for the destruction of domesticated pets are not welcome here...
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11-23-2020, 10:54 AM
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I remember a thread a few years back and how I caught hell fire and brim stone for suggesting that peoples pets running wild are DRT...How times and opinions change when there is a grizzly photo's to go with the facts....
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11-23-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplefarmer
In my personal experience, this is very rare...
Those who advocate for the destruction of domesticated pets are not welcome here...
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Do you live in an acreage subdivision or near a reserve? Domesticated dogs harassing wildlife and/or livestock is not as uncommon as you may think.
Who were you in your former life on AO??
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11-23-2020, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplefarmer
In my personal experience, this is very rare...
Those who advocate for the destruction of domesticated pets are not welcome here...
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Do you live in an acreage subdivision or near a reserve? Domesticated dogs harassing wildlife and/or livestock is not as uncommon as you may think.
Who were you in your former life on AO??
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11-23-2020, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter
I remember a thread a few years back and how I caught hell fire and brim stone for suggesting that peoples pets running wild are DRT...How times and opinions change when there is a grizzly photo's to go with the facts....
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Were the dogs running wild and harassing wildlife?
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11-23-2020, 11:08 AM
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If you care about your dogs, don't let them run wild and chase game animals.
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11-23-2020, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
If you care about your dogs, don't let them run wild and chase game animals.
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Pretty simple.
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11-23-2020, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
If you care about your dogs, don't let them run wild and chase game animals.
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Pretty simple isn’t it.
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11-23-2020, 11:37 AM
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Picture could be from Ontario where I believe it is legal to hunt deer with dogs.
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11-23-2020, 11:45 AM
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Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplefarmer
In my personal experience, this is very rare...
Those who advocate for the destruction of domesticated pets are not welcome here...
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Really.
You joined days ago and are giving us the law of the land?
Back under your bridge banned troll.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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11-23-2020, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplefarmer
In my personal experience, this is very rare...
Those who advocate for the destruction of domesticated pets are not welcome here...
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Double tap
I will add- keep your animals under your control or expect the animal food dish to be full all by itself.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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11-23-2020, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Not just acreages, the law is clear and farmers don't hesitate to exercise it. Your dog is only your dog within your property boundaries .
Grizz
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So if farmer Joe's cow wanders onto an acreage it's not their cow anymore? Kaboom into the freezer? It was harassing the lawn and the wife's sweet peas.
Asking for a friend.
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11-23-2020, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sns2
Do you live in an acreage subdivision or near a reserve? Domesticated dogs harassing wildlife and/or livestock is not as uncommon as you may think.
Who were you in your former life on AO??
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No I do not, I am rural, not country residential....
Now, you must remember you are a guest when you ask permission and enter my property... No different than any other private property.
If you really think that us dumb country folk don't know what is happening on our own property, well I can not help your ignorance. We talk, we have coffee together and we look after things when needed, truthfully we don't need you, your buddies or any other stranger to complete our lives. Again, you are a guest and should act like it....
Now, if you really think that my time is wasted on invisible bullies like yourself on the internet, again I can't help your ignorance.
Many wonder why access is tough, we deal with more ignorant people that come across a weapon toting saviors of the free world...
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11-23-2020, 11:52 AM
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This topic has come up before and I have pointed out before that it is illegal to let a dog run loose anywhere in the province except for the owner’s property or in designated off leash areas . Unfortunately a lot of pet owners suffer from “those rules don’t apply to me” syndrome. And when one of these stray dogs get hurt or worse these entitled owners demand “justice”. It’s a story that is told over and over again .
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11-23-2020, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338Bluff
So if farmer Joe's cow wanders onto an acreage it's not their cow anymore? Kaboom into the freezer? It was harassing the lawn and the wife's sweet peas.
Asking for a friend.
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It's cattle country and there are specific laws about dogs, including municipal ones. If a cow eats' s your petunias, Tough Titty. If there's a fence problem, you need to solve it between the affected land owners. Does your fence keep your dog at home ?
Grizz
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Last edited by Grizzly Adams; 11-23-2020 at 12:07 PM.
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11-23-2020, 12:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by liar
This topic has come up before and I have pointed out before that it is illegal to let a dog run loose anywhere in the province except for the owner’s property or in designated off leash areas . Unfortunately a lot of pet owners suffer from “those rules don’t apply to me” syndrome. And when one of these stray dogs get hurt or worse these entitled owners demand “justice”. It’s a story that is told over and over again .
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my friend and I hunt upland with dogs,m often on crown land as well as private. Absolute, dyed in the wool dog people, both of us.
If one of the dogs get caught in a snare, it's on us not the trapper.
if one of our dogs gets loose and gets shot chasing cattle or deer, ( they are never allowed to run freely without their E collars on) It's on us, not the god or the shooter.
I have no sympathy or remorse for someone who looses their dog because it was shot harassing farm animals or wwildlife.
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11-23-2020, 12:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338Bluff
So if farmer Joe's cow wanders onto an acreage it's not their cow anymore? Kaboom into the freezer? It was harassing the lawn and the wife's sweet peas.
Asking for a friend.
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In your little imagined story how many times have the negligent domestic animal landowner been notified that his animals are off his property?
In the real world,
If a cow is on the highway for the countless time because the landowner is negligent and destroys a vehicle, placing the occupants in harms way is the landowner liable for the vehicle, or the vehicle owner liable for the cow?
By the way, this actually happened several times and has gone to court. Give us your opinion and then I will tell you the actual outcome.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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11-23-2020, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplefarmer
No I do not, I am rural, not country residential....
Now, you must remember you are a guest when you ask permission and enter my property... No different than any other private property.
If you really think that us dumb country folk don't know what is happening on our own property, well I can not help your ignorance. We talk, we have coffee together and we look after things when needed, truthfully we don't need you, your buddies or any other stranger to complete our lives. Again, you are a guest and should act like it....
Now, if you really think that my time is wasted on invisible bullies like yourself on the internet, again I can't help your ignorance.
Many wonder why access is tough, we deal with more ignorant people that come across a weapon toting saviors of the free world...
Jim
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LOL
You think you are the only one who owns land just because you are a farmer? Some of us city bullies own land too, and we let people hunt it, without acting like our feces don't stink like you seem to on this thread and others.
What was your username when I banned you?
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11-23-2020, 12:20 PM
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Dogs get out. Cows get out. I don’t think we have to start whacking them.
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11-23-2020, 12:25 PM
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I have deer in my yard all the time, now my dog is very protective of his farm. But he was trained as a pup not to chase farm or wild animals. That wasn't hard to do by the way. When deer come in my yard he just watches them go buy, and over the years they have become use to him also. My yard is also a no shoot zone for me, I hunt deer and it might be the same ones in my yard that I take in the back 40, but they get a walk when in close. Any dog chasing deer or my farm animals are shot on sight. Call me what you want.
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11-23-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper
Dogs get out. Cows get out. I don’t think we have to start whacking them.
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Huge difference between them getting out, and them being allowed to run free and chase game animals.
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11-23-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Huge difference between them getting out, and them being allowed to run free and chase game animals.
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When you see a lose dog you can determine how it left the property? I had a pitbull attack my on leash dog this year. Owner nowhere to be seen. I also had 60 head of cows break two fences to get on to my land and wreck a pile of freshly planted trees. From the comments in this thread it seems I should have laid them all out.
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11-23-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
Really.
You joined days ago and are giving us the law of the land?
Back under your bridge banned troll.
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Excuse me but where did I give anyone the law of the land ? My contributions are small as I only joined last month after some guys that stayed here said this was a community I may enjoy..
I will break down my thoughts for you, I have lived in the country for decades, have never had to exercise the destruction of any dog, nor has anyone I know... So, I share my personal experience and you jump down my throat ?
Why don't you ask others how many actually have killed domesticated pets under these circumstances and we will soon know who the troll really is...
I have had three dogs here over the years that were problems, starving and abandoned by their owners... They were rehomed to others in the area and have made exceptional companions.. These are my experiences, like it or not...
Jim
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11-23-2020, 12:37 PM
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It happens but it is a rarity...had a chat with a woman a few years back and told her that her dogs run game animals when off the leash and that hunters will put them down or the landowner so be nice and leash up your pets while on walks....seen a farm dog pin down a doe once...went and had a chat with the farmer...he put it down.
Sad situation all around.
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