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11-02-2019, 05:02 PM
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Cwd moose
If you shot a moose in a cwd zone would you eat it right away or would you wait for the results which could be months ? Just curious . These moose tenderloins are looking might good right now for supper . Yum yum . I mean only one moose found with cwd in Alberta ... and the moose apparently isn’t mandatory head submission .
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11-02-2019, 05:17 PM
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Depends where...hot zone or fringe zone. I would likely eat it.
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11-02-2019, 05:20 PM
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Mandatory head submission for Wainwright...
https://mywildalberta.ca/hunting/hun...5TdtPVJo5rQ9xQ
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It is a mandatory requirement that all ungulates (deer, moose and elk) harvested from Camp Wainwright be tested for CWD. Mandatory head submission will be completed at the check station.
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11-02-2019, 05:26 PM
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Is 203 a hot zone ? Lefty.
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11-02-2019, 05:27 PM
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Close enough to wainwright I guess....
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11-02-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LongRangebugler
Is 203 a hot zone ? Lefty.
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Look at the distribution map it’s not a fringe zone
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11-02-2019, 09:42 PM
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Heads
Accompanying a friend on the base for moose this year, and of course he wants to keep the antlers. Can a guy just remove the skull cap with horns attached on his own or do they have to do it at check station. Montana tests through lymph nodes for CWD, not sure why we are so behind.
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11-02-2019, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl
Accompanying a friend on the base for moose this year, and of course he wants to keep the antlers. Can a guy just remove the skull cap with horns attached on his own or do they have to do it at check station. Montana tests through lymph nodes for CWD, not sure why we are so behind.
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You can have the base biologist take the samples if you aren’t sure. You can take the samples without cutting off the skull cap. They need the base of the brain stem and the lymph nodes on the bottom jaw. There are videos on line on how to extract the samples properly.
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11-02-2019, 09:50 PM
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Thx
Thanks Lefty
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11-03-2019, 08:56 AM
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Cwd
My personal thoughts, moose will be that last ungulates to be hit with CWD. They are not a herd animal like deer and elk, most hang out in deep Boreal and Foothill forest away from all the Saskatchewan prions.
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11-03-2019, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
My personal thoughts, moose will be that last ungulates to be hit with CWD. They are not a herd animal like deer and elk, most hang out in deep Boreal and Foothill forest away from all the Saskatchewan prions.
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And to add to that, they don't eat the same things as deer and elk. They are browsers not grazers.
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11-03-2019, 03:06 PM
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Never hurts to give the biologist more data on CWD either, especially in the off chance it did come back positive.
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11-03-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
My personal thoughts, moose will be that last ungulates to be hit with CWD. They are not a herd animal like deer and elk, most hang out in deep Boreal and Foothill forest away from all the Saskatchewan prions.
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Ya the annual moose migration from the eastern 200 WMU's to the western 300's.
Quite the sight.
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11-03-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IR_mike
Ya the annual moose migration from the eastern 200 WMU's to the western 300's.
Quite the sight.
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I look foreword to it every year
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11-03-2019, 07:46 PM
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Eat it.
If cwd was moving between species, there would be no coyotes left.
(Feel free to use this highly scientific fact on your next research paper.)
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11-03-2019, 08:56 PM
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Ate it . Yum yum . I said screw it . But I dropped the head off this morning anyways . For research purposes .
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11-03-2019, 08:58 PM
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I don’t know man I know that moose isn’t a herd animal ... but where I was out hunting in the 200’s I seen a whack of moose in a very small area . It felt like they were herded up almost lol
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11-05-2019, 10:27 PM
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Age is a factor. A younger animal, especially a moose and not a deer, would be pretty safe. An older one you may want to have tested prior to eating.
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05-21-2020, 09:11 PM
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I know for a fact the first hunter harvested moose was taken last fall in WMU160
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05-21-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tox
I know for a fact the first hunter harvested moose was taken last fall in WMU160
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Ive been shooting moose for years there no way this guy you know was the first hunter to get a moose.
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05-21-2020, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubious
Ive been shooting moose for years there no way this guy you know was the first hunter to get a moose.
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Sorry my bad. First hunter harvested CWD positive moose.
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05-22-2020, 11:30 PM
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CWD is a nervous system issue. So if you don’t cut into, or shoot into, or otherwise cause any spillage of spinal fluid or brain tissue to contaminate any meat, then, you’re not going to be affecting the meat. And if you’re still concerned about it, make sure all of your meat is cooked above 170F to kill any pathogens that might be present. Or get the animal tested, but cut the head off AFTER you bone all the meat off of the carcass.
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05-23-2020, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by aardvaark
CWD is a nervous system issue. So if you don’t cut into, or shoot into, or otherwise cause any spillage of spinal fluid or brain tissue to contaminate any meat, then, you’re not going to be affecting the meat. And if you’re still concerned about it, make sure all of your meat is cooked above 170F to kill any pathogens that might be present. Or get the animal tested, but cut the head off AFTER you bone all the meat off of the carcass.
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CWD is a prion disease. Cooking doesn't kill it.
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05-23-2020, 07:45 AM
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I brought in my wmu 100 series 2019 bull moose for testing and was negative...not taking any chances...
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05-23-2020, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LongRangebugler
I don’t know man I know that moose isn’t a herd animal ... but where I was out hunting in the 200’s I seen a whack of moose in a very small area . It felt like they were herded up almost lol
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Moose yard up like other ungulates in deep snow and cold temperatures.
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05-23-2020, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aardvaark
CWD is a nervous system issue. So if you don’t cut into, or shoot into, or otherwise cause any spillage of spinal fluid or brain tissue to contaminate any meat, then, you’re not going to be affecting the meat. And if you’re still concerned about it, make sure all of your meat is cooked above 170F to kill any pathogens that might be present. Or get the animal tested, but cut the head off AFTER you bone all the meat off of the carcass.
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Sorry, but this is incorrect. Studies have shown prions to be present in muscle from infected animals and at least one showed infectivity when such meat was fed to primates.
As the other poster notes, prions are difficult to denature and it will not occur in your oven. Bleach treatment will apparently destroy them on your knives or other tools.
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05-23-2020, 11:30 AM
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If my memory is correct only "1" moose so far has tested positive to CWD in Alberta. You would have a better chance of winning a lottery than shooting CWD moose.
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05-23-2020, 11:59 AM
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Aardvaark's post is all misinformation and convoluted falsehoods.
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
If my memory is correct only "1" moose so far has tested positive to CWD in Alberta. You would have a better chance of winning a lottery than shooting CWD moose.
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There were two hunter killed CWD positive moose last year from a total of 232 tested.
It wasn't that long ago that deer had the same infection rate.
Sadly, shooting a CWD moose might be common....
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05-23-2020, 01:03 PM
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When I drew my Camp Wainwright antlered tag, three years ago , the biologist told us that only one moose had tested positive so far. He took the sample, and we took the antlers with us.
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