Thermal hunting monocular, binocular, rifle scope

[visir-thermal hunting]

Please visit Infiray-Thermal Hunting at
Sponsor Forums:

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/forumdisplay.php?f=75

contact: info@visirinc.com

[NCC]

What are the rules on shipping this type of stuff into Canada?

[fishnguy]

What’s the point, I don’t get it? Hunting at night is illegal.

[barsik]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

What’s the point, I don’t get it? Hunting at night is illegal.

great for farmers/ranchers/rural dwellers trying to protect livestock or property from nocturnal visitors.

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by barsik

great for farmers/ranchers/rural dwellers trying to protect livestock or property from nocturnal visitors.

Unless given specific written exemptions these groups are still not allowed to discharge firearms at night.

[Attilathecanuk]

I would be interested in the monocular but the website has no pricing?

[Jerry D]

My guess is this is a new company and they have hit up every province and or state trying to drum up some business. Could also be a local guy with no clue but I could see some people purchasing for personal reasons etc.

[elkhunter11]

Given our regulations, I just don't see a use for them in Alberta

[Chewbacca]

I don’t know how many times the dog would be barking and looking out into dark. Often wished I could look out into darkness and see what’s out there that has it’s attention.

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by barsik

great for farmers/ranchers/rural dwellers trying to protect livestock or property from nocturnal visitors.

If the need arises for firearms use in the dark a good weapon mounted light is better suited and cheaper. NV and thermal have no real value as a hunting / shooting and in alberta. Might get a few guys who want one just to be cool but there's no practical use.
Wonder what kind of trouble you would get in with a thermal scope mounted when going through a f&g check stop. Or a regular traffic stop.
"Yes officer I have a rifle in the truck"
"' well the thermal scope is just so I can see things in the dark"
" No I don't shoot things at night.....it's just so I can look cool...."
Wonder how that would go...

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

I don’t know how many times the dog would be barking and looking out into dark. Often wished I could look out into darkness and see what’s out there that has it’s attention.

They make crazy good flashlights. If you can't see it with a light it's not eminent danger. Suppose thermal binos would have use for scouting.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

They make crazy good flashlights. If you can't see it with a light it's not eminent danger. Suppose thermal binos would have use for scouting.

I have one of those. The one drawback with LED is that the animals eyes don’t shine back at you.
Someone will get one of these and hopefully leave some feedback on them.

[NCC]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

If the need arises for firearms use in the dark a good weapon mounted light is better suited and cheaper. NV and thermal have no real value as a hunting / shooting and in alberta. Might get a few guys who want one just to be cool but there's no practical use.
Wonder what kind of trouble you would get in with a thermal scope mounted when going through a f&g check stop. Or a regular traffic stop.
"Yes officer I have a rifle in the truck"
"' well the thermal scope is just so I can see things in the dark"
" No I don't shoot things at night.....it's just so I can look cool...."
Wonder how that would go...

I’ve used both a Gen3 night vision scope and lights, and preferred the night vision by a mile.

[Savage Bacon]

I have a bushnell night vision monocular and it is pretty neat

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by NCC

I’ve used both a Gen3 night vision scope and lights, and preferred the night vision by a mile.

Can you use them in alberta Legaly? For what?

[NCC]

I’ve shot about 30 pigs in Texas with the gen 3 night vision and a couple pigs and 6-8 coyotes with lights.

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by NCC

I’ve shot about 30 pigs in Texas with the gen 3 night vision and a couple pigs and 6-8 coyotes with lights.

Texas is a long ways south from alberta

[Battle Rat]

A rancher will pull the trigger on a predator threatening his livelyhood regardless of the time on the clock.
He is not going to wait until sun up to shoot something that is eating his calf in the dark.

That is the real world so dont loose your hair over what the hunting regs say.
If my neighbor fires a shot in the dark in calving season Im sure as hell not going to bring it to any ones attention.
I dont care what the law says, its none of my business and Im not an internet cop.

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

A rancher will pull the trigger on a predator threatening his livelyhood regardless of the time on the clock.
He is not going to wait until sun up to shoot something that is eating his calf in the dark.

That is the real world so dont loose your hair over what the hunting regs say.
If my neighbor fires a shot in the dark in calving season Im sure as hell not going to bring it to any ones attention.
I dont care what the law says, its none of my business and Im not an internet cop.

I think the majority here understand the written law, and what most likely goes on in the real world.
The fact is the amount of bull crap posted, expounding half truths and made up non laws, is mind boggling.

Without a true understanding of the actual laws, and the possible consequences, when that one neighbour who has a gripe, or a twisted agenda moves onto that newly subdivided 3 acres on the next property.

We are doing a huge dis service and looking like a bunch of knuckle dragging apes, if the facts aren’t presented.

Just because the facts are presented, don’t confuse that for anything more than setting the record straight.

[guysmiley]

I use a thermal monocular for nighttime security.
I've had people walk onto my property at night and hide in the bushes scoping to see if the property is occupied.

You can't hide from Thermal....

I have found a baby rabbit from 50 feet away. It glows orange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOO7UV9uvs

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

A rancher will pull the trigger on a predator threatening his livelyhood regardless of the time on the clock.
He is not going to wait until sun up to shoot something that is eating his calf in the dark.

That is the real world so dont loose your hair over what the hunting regs say.
If my neighbor fires a shot in the dark in calving season Im sure as hell not going to bring it to any ones attention.
I dont care what the law says, its none of my business and Im not an internet cop.

I fully understand that. In my experience a 1200lumen weapon mounted light is more than adequate for taking care of midnight issues and far cheaper than the other options. My light will illuminate out to past 200 yds. It is detachable and mounts on any firearm. My thoughts on NV and thermals mounted on rifles is possible legal issues as these are tools designed for shooting in the dark which is in fact illegal according to our written laws. Be hard to convince a LEO with a chip on their shoulder that you don't shoot at night when your equipment is designed specifically for that.

[guysmiley]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

I fully understand that. In my experience a 1200lumen weapon mounted light is more than adequate for taking care of midnight issues and far cheaper than the other options. My light will illuminate out to past 200 yds. It is detachable and mounts on any firearm. My thoughts on NV and thermals mounted on rifles is possible legal issues as these are tools designed for shooting in the dark which is in fact illegal according to our written laws. Be hard to convince a LEO with a chip on their shoulder that you don't shoot at night when your equipment is designed specifically for that.

Agreed. That is why i went with a monocular that does not weapon mount. It is handheld or helmet mounted. Yes, I could see an intruder with a flashlight but that also gives away my position.

Also, thermals are just as effective in daytime for seeing heat signatures.

[CDNOutdoorsman]

Originally Posted by guysmiley

I use a thermal monocular for nighttime security.
I've had people walk onto my property at night and hide in the bushes scoping to see if the property is occupied.

You can't hide from Thermal....

I have found a baby rabbit from 50 feet away. It glows orange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOO7UV9uvs

What distance can you detect objects? For instance, if I shot an elk at last light, would it be able to pick it up several hundred yards in the dark?

[guysmiley]

Originally Posted by CDNOutdoorsman

What distance can you detect objects? For instance, if I shot an elk at last light, would it be able to pick it up several hundred yards in the dark?

You may be able to in an open field. You would however be able to follow the blood trail in the woods as it is warmer than ambient. There are better products for long range detection/identification, the flir breach is a 1x but does have digital magnification. You do lose resolution when you zoom however.

Detect in the open at 400 yards, yes. Identify, not so much.

This should give you a better idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Dw8Ws4HEs

[FishOutOfWater]

Originally Posted by NCC

What are the rules on shipping this type of stuff into Canada?

From China ? None...

[guysmiley]

The US doesn't ship a lot of this stuff, even accessories due to ITAR.