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08-30-2017, 09:29 AM
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What did this?
Yogi?
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08-30-2017, 09:32 AM
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Humans?
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08-30-2017, 09:48 AM
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Porcupine .. I see it got the Pine tree next to it as well.
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08-30-2017, 09:53 AM
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That was my first thought as well but usually you'd be able to see some teeth marks and bark shavings below the tree when porcupines are the culprit.
I guess looking closer you can see some bark below the tree and possible bite marks..
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08-30-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Salavee
Porcupine .. I see it got the Pine tree next to it as well.
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I think you're right - a porcupine after cambium.
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08-30-2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by takeiteasybird
That was my first thought as well but usually you'd be able to see some teeth marks and bark shavings below the tree when porcupines are the culprit.
I guess looking closer you can see some bark below the tree and possible bite marks..
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The strips at the base of the tree are the bark and their width would suggest the size of the mouth that pulled them. But neither tooth nor claw marks were clearly evident. The pine was hemorrhaging sap, so I thought maybe something was after that. No people for miles.
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08-30-2017, 10:24 AM
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Humans.
That is a Balsam Fir tree. These trees have pockets of sap under the bark. That sap is used in traditional medicine. People strip the bark to expose the sap so they can collect it.
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08-30-2017, 10:27 AM
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Gone Hunting
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Originally Posted by Salavee
Porcupine .. I see it got the Pine tree next to it as well.
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Pine have rough bark, Fir have smooth bark.
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08-30-2017, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Humans.
That is a Balsam Fir tree. These trees have pockets of sap under the bark. That sap is used in traditional medicine. People strip the bark to expose the sap so they can collect it.
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Pretty sure it's a white-bark pine, and is located 6 km off the Icefields Parkway in Banff on Mount Sarbach at 6700 feet.
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08-30-2017, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KegRiver
Humans.
That is a Balsam Fir tree. These trees have pockets of sap under the bark. That sap is used in traditional medicine. People strip the bark to expose the sap so they can collect it.
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Bears too.
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08-30-2017, 11:55 AM
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Bears too.
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That was my first thought was bears. Seen it numberous times in Grizz areas for marking trees I think.
Is this in an area with Grizz?
Usually the ones I have seen are stripped from about 6-7 feet high to the ground
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08-30-2017, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nube
That was my first thought was bears. Seen it numberous times in Grizz areas for marking trees I think.
Is this in an area with Grizz?
Usually the ones I have seen are stripped from about 6-7 feet high to the ground
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On second look, I think you are correct. The marks on the two trees are nearly identical. Doubt if a Porky would be that precise.
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08-30-2017, 02:37 PM
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It is super easy to tell if it is a porky or not. It's like when you see a beaver chewing on a tree and you can see tooth marks. This does not from what I see but it is a hard pic to tell.
I have seen the bears do this and they basically start high and pull down with their claws and go right through the bark and then peel it off in big strips. It is rare to find but I have seen it sheep hunting a few times and the hair is on the tree to tell you what is going on as well to prove it.
If you look for hair rubs can tell you a lot.
Sometimes guys thing they found an elk rub but when you look at the hari left on the tree they can see it is a moose.
Just a trick to help ya at times when your not sure...
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08-30-2017, 02:51 PM
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If you click and expand the picture it is easy to tell this is the work of Mr Bruin. You can see the large pieces of stripped bark at the base of the tree that were peeled off vertically. You can also see the vertical claw mark in the remaining piece of bark in the V part.
The Bear was using the tree beside it for the same purpose and must have decided he wanted a new rubbing post.
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08-30-2017, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
If you click and expand the picture it is easy to tell this is the work of Mr Bruin. You can see the large pieces of stripped bark at the base of the tree that were peeled off vertically. You can also see the vertical claw mark in the remaining piece of bark in the V part.
The Bear was using the tree beside it for the same purpose and must have decided he wanted a new rubbing post.
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On second thought, the tree was stripped up to the 5-foot level -- and I can't imagine a porcupine putting in that much work.
However, there was no hair visible, so it was definitely not a rub.
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08-30-2017, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
Bears too.
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Really!
Not many Grizz around here thus I have no experience with that.
However, it does make sense to me. Whenever I've seen where a human did this sort of thing the bark was cut not torn off.
I could see bears doing that.
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