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Old 01-23-2024, 09:19 AM
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Default The Study of <How A Burbot Breaks The Fundamentals of Mathematics>

Hi, All of AB forum members!
I hope everyone is enjoying the ice and the fishing after the cold snap.
As a lot of people know, we just had The Big Jig Ice Fishing Derby held in Sylvan Lake over the past weekend!
https://visitsylvanlake.ca/bigjig/
Congratulations to all participants, especially to those who had won.

Here I want to congratulate Robin Mundle the most.
Not only because he caught and released a remarkable 84 cm, 33.07 inch beautiful burbot, but also because he broke the fundamentals of mathematics!

Please see the photo attached, I believe everyone participating in the event can download/screenshot the photo and double-check:
By using his Ruler:
1" x 1=1"
1" x 2=2"
1" x 3=3"
So we should get:
3" x 7 =21" at the most
But he somehow got 33" out of it!
What a math miracle!
I think the prize of $750 for such a big math break is not enough!
Can I ask you guys to post and forward these messages to your social media?
We need the world to know: Robin Mundle of Alberta deserves a lot more than $750.

Thanks
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:48 AM
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Huh?
on a 36" board - that fish appears to be a hair over 33"
Nice burbot
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:53 AM
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just curious, where do you get your weed? did someone build a mini bump board?
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Old 01-23-2024, 10:01 AM
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I think I get it...
His post is accusing this dude of cheating.
Basically - he is using the visible 3" at the end of the ruler as a guide, and then measuring the fish in the photo in 3" increments.

He may be right - something doesn't add up. Maybe photoshop? No idea.

But the wordsmithing in the original post doesn't help...
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Old 01-23-2024, 10:37 AM
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I think you're onto something sorceror. That doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

That *was* a 36" board, but it looks like it's now about a 23" board.

That fish doesn't look like a 33" burbot to me either, the body shape is no where near right.
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:12 AM
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To those who feel confused, let's make it a bit more clear.
Using the last 3" shown, then scale it backward for the fish's length. We can calculate the fish is no more than 21". I have 3 guesses of why this is happening:
A. The fundamentals of math are broken. 3" x 7 is not 21" but 33"
B. The measuring software, AutoCAD, BlueBeam, Acrobat, etc. are all flawed (feel free to re-measure on your own. I'm pretty sure there are lots of tradespeople, engineers, etc. knows how to use scaling and measuring tools)
C. This guy has altered the Measuring board, maybe cut a portion of the board out and re-joined it.

What do you guys think is more possible?
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:17 AM
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https://www.outdoorlife.com/fishing/...ced-jail-time/

Our Albertans won't cheat right? at least not for $750. This is toooooo cheap.
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:23 AM
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People on facebook say the fishermenn is a local and is trusted. Does seem small but it could also be the way picture is taken.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3773...ibextid=uJjRxr
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:01 PM
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Im not going to comment too much but ill say thats the cabelas 36" bumpboard and its interesting that in a lake infested with perch he only submitted a burbot.
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Old 01-23-2024, 02:28 PM
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Who ever wrote the cheque out to robin must of bin a non fisherman or a close friend cause there’s no way that that fish is 84cm or 33 inches. It’s a 56cm fish. Sounds like a sylvan lake local screw job.
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Old 01-23-2024, 02:47 PM
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The more I look at that picture, the more I'm absolutely amazed that the judges didn't call BS on it.

That supposedly 33" fish is barely wider than a 3" wide bump board ruler! If you've ever seen ANY 33" fish, it's a helluva lot thicker/wider than the width of a bump board...

Unreal.
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Old 01-23-2024, 02:56 PM
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Maybe the winner can back up his story-with better pics🤔
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Old 01-23-2024, 04:41 PM
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The more I look at that picture, the more I'm absolutely amazed that the judges didn't call BS on it.

That supposedly 33" fish is barely wider than a 3" wide bump board ruler! If you've ever seen ANY 33" fish, it's a helluva lot thicker/wider than the width of a bump board...

Unreal.
I agree. I've caught over a hundred 30"+ burbot easily and none of them looked like that one. That's just a pup. Here's a real 33" skinny burbot. The head should be much larger on a big burbot.

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Old 01-23-2024, 05:03 PM
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I’d have to agree. I’ve caught a few bigger than the “declared size” and none were this thin (or that colour, for that matter, but that is probably relative). All looked like the one on the pic above ^. I’ll try to see if I still have a pic or two.

Who knows though.
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Old 01-23-2024, 05:13 PM
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I don’t know… Could it be perspective of the photo? I mean it does look sketchy.





What’s that in the bottom left corner on the pic above? The black thing. I can’t make it out on the phone.
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Old 01-23-2024, 05:21 PM
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I don’t know… Could it be perspective of the photo? I mean it does look sketchy.





What’s that in the bottom left corner on the pic above? The black thing. I can’t make it out on the phone.
Looks like a lip gripper and I bet if I measured the one in my shop it would confirm what I am already thinking
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Old 01-23-2024, 05:45 PM
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^ Right you are. It is actually on the other pic too and I didn’t even see it, lol. That thing is over 12 inches long, no? If that is the case, it makes sense that the fish is the size that it is claimed it is. It is definitely way over 24 inches. So could be all perspective. Photos can sometimes look ridiculous. Like I said, who knows.

Edit: if someone recognizes the exact model of the gripper, we can probably figure it out, lol. I don’t believe I have seen any shorter than 10 or so inches.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:02 PM
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I’m confused. Where does it say that’s a 33” burbot? It says it is 84cm which is 18.5”.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:09 PM
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I’m confused. Where does it say that’s a 33” burbot? It says it is 84cm which is 18.5”.
Haha. We are getting further away, lol. 84cm / 2.54cm = 33 inches
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:19 PM
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Hate it when people get accused of cheating on such flimsy evidence.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:23 PM
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Haha. We are getting further away, lol. 84cm / 2.54cm = 33 inches
Duh. Here I was converting it to gallons from litres. Math never was my strong point.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:25 PM
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I think it is all in the gripper. It has to be at least or about 10 inches long and the fish is about 3 grippers in length -> about 33 inches long as declared by the fisherman.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:27 PM
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Duh. Here I was converting it to gallons from litres. Math never was my strong point.
Haha. Hey, now we know how many gallons that fish is! Well, not really, but still.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:51 PM
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So I looked at a whole bunch of grippers that looked like the one on the pic (no idea which one it is, but there are a few that look like that). The shortest I found was on Amazon, where it said it is 9.45 inches long. All others were over 10 inches and up to almost 13. Wouldn’t be surprised if the amazon measurement is not correct either. The op measured the gripper at 7 inches, which is highly unlikely (like I said, I have never seen one that short - wouldn’t be exactly comfortable using it at that length, would it?).



From this little exercise I have to say that the fish is proper.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:53 PM
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Well if you're going to host a tourney with a send in pics format instead of actual verification or an approved measuring board and photo criteria then you can expect this kind of stuff to happen.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:56 PM
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I’m confused. Where does it say that’s a 33” burbot? It says it is 84cm which is 18.5”.
Not hard to tell guys raised on imperial measurements. That is some conversion job....84cm = 33.071 inches....you're short 15"!
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:56 PM
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Also, who would cut a foot off their board (somewhere in the middle likely) to win a few hundred dollars and think they wouldn’t get caught?
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:11 PM
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Surely the tournament admin would have seen the hero shot as well as the release video? I believe they were required for the derby?


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Old 01-23-2024, 08:51 PM
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Hubs was at a derby a couple years back, same kinda rules and using the app with a bump board. A lady won with the biggest burbot. Two fisherman near her told my hubs that they seen her boyfriend who wasn't in the derby, go over to her tent with the burbot to enter it. They wanted to lodge a complaint but there was A $75.00 CHARGE to lodge one.

We will never go in tournaments like that ever again. Too easy for the seedy types to cheat.

What they need to do is issue their own legal bump boards, numbered for each entrant I think.
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Surely the tournament admin would have seen the hero shot as well as the release video? I believe they were required for the derby?


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This. Anyone catching a 33" burbot from Sylvan is going to take a picture of them holding it. That's a trophy for that lake.
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