Driving Is A Privilege

ram crazy · #1 03-13-2016, 01:50 PM

Some people are real pieces of work. An article in the sun about wearing your hat to take photo ID for drivers licence. People think it is there God given right to drive when in reality it is a privilege. There is absolutely no respect in today's society. Guy goes in to renew his drivers licence, but first has to pay all his un payed fines first then thinks he should be allowed to wear his cap for drivers licence ID. Shame on the paper for making this a front page issue, and giving the loser his 5mins. of fame.

Dick284 · #2 03-13-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Some people are real pieces of work. An article in the sun about wearing your hat to take photo ID for drivers licence. People think it is there God given right to drive when in reality it is a privilege. There is absolutely no respect in today's society. Guy goes in to renew his drivers licence, but first has to pay all his un payed fines first then thinks he should be allowed to wear his cap for drivers licence ID. Shame on the paper for making this a front page issue, and giving the loser his 5mins. of fame.

Yet if he was a Sikh, or was wearing a veil he would have been allowed to have his licence picture taken. So why not with his cap on?
If your too short sighted to see that this is front page news because it highlights the double standard that is in effect in these politically correct times.

Shame on our silly rules and exclusions.

NewAlbertan · #3 03-13-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

Yet if he was a Sikh, or was wearing a veil he would have been allowed to have his licence picture taken. So why not with his cap on?
If your too short sighted to see that this is front page news because it highlights the double standard that is in effect in these politically correct times.

Shame on our silly rules and exclusions.

Was this a 'cap'... Or a nice good ole boy Stetson?... It does make a difference...

Dick284 · #4 03-13-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NewAlbertan

Was this a 'cap'... Or a nice good ole boy Stetson?... It does make a difference...

He claims his cap is tied to a religious belief, how does this differ from other headgear with religious connections?

whiteout · #5 03-13-2016, 02:15 PM

I'd like OP to explain how wearing a hat is disrespectful.

And the guy in the story never once mentioned that driving is a right. And the story isn't about whether or not driving is a right or a privilege. He does make a valid point that there are ways to significantly alter your appearance from your photo and that these are considered acceptable.

ram crazy · #6 03-13-2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteout

I'd like OP to explain how wearing a hat is disrespectful.

And the guy in the story never once mentioned that driving is a right. And the story isn't about whether or not driving is a right or a privilege. He does make a valid point that there are ways to significantly alter your appearance from your photo and that these are considered acceptable.

I didn't say he mentioned it was a right. That was my opinion. Minorities have more right's than the majorities. How is wearing a ball cap a religious belief. It's like when you go to a sporting venue and watch how many people don't remove there hats when the national anthem is played.

bigjohncdn · #7 03-15-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

He claims his cap is tied to a religious belief, how does this differ from other headgear with religious connections?

My view is pretty much the same.

However I believe, religious based or not, if not EVERYONE is required to be bare headed then nobody can be required to be.

ForwardBias · #8 03-13-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

Yet if he was a Sikh, or was wearing a veil he would have been allowed to have his licence picture taken. So why not with his cap on?
If your too short sighted to see that this is front page news because it highlights the double standard that is in effect in these politically correct times.

Shame on our silly rules and exclusions.

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ak77 · #9 03-13-2016, 05:51 PM

Since there are more exceptions to the rule than i can shake a stick at I will support those who troll the system, be it colander or skiing helmet.

How simple can it be? You want the government identification - you can't have the head gear. Period.

Jpl · #10 03-13-2016, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

Yet if he was a Sikh, or was wearing a veil he would have been allowed to have his licence picture taken. So why not with his cap on?
If your too short sighted to see that this is front page news because it highlights the double standard that is in effect in these politically correct times.

Shame on our silly rules and exclusions.

Ya cause it's the same thing. One being humble to god, one being the promotion of equality in the eyes' of God and the other wanting to wear a baseball cap.

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super7mag · #11 03-14-2016, 06:47 AM

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Ya cause it's the same thing. One being humble to god, one being the promotion of equality in the eyes' of God and the other wanting to wear a baseball cap.

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Are you implying that some should have special treatment because of thier beliefs? And those that do not have have the same belief it is tough titty? ???

I think that is how the KKK was started !

Okotokian · #12 03-14-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

Yet if he was a Sikh, or was wearing a veil he would have been allowed to have his licence picture taken. .

No, faces have to be uncovered for driver's licenses. I believe you are confusing those with taking the citizenship oath.

Personally I don't care of a Sikh wears this headgear in his picture.It affects me not one iota. I get it that his religion demands it. The oilers don't demand that I never take my oilers hat off. LOL By the same token, if you are a Christian and wear your crucifix to work, your employer can't tell you take it off. Same with a Jew's yarmulke ("skullcap"). All religions get some modicum of protection when their religious clothing or jewelry doesn't cause an undue safety hazard.

airbornedeerhunter · #13 03-13-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Some people are real pieces of work. An article in the sun about wearing your hat to take photo ID for drivers licence. People think it is there God given right to drive when in reality it is a privilege. There is absolutely no respect in today's society. Guy goes in to renew his drivers licence, but first has to pay all his un payed fines first then thinks he should be allowed to wear his cap for drivers licence ID. Shame on the paper for making this a front page issue, and giving the loser his 5mins. of fame.

WRONG! Nowhere does he mention that driving is his right and if you can't see this for what it is, a protest, then you truly are short-sighted. It's pretty obvious that he is making a statement about the double standards in this country that allow for face coverings ( which are not part of the religion by the way, it is purely cultural) and the supposed separation between church and state. Oh, and what does "respect" have to do with anything here?????

ETOWNCANUCK · #14 03-14-2016, 01:53 PM

Hmm
Rules of the Church VS laws of the State

Since both are created and enforced by man you would think there could be compromises.

If One can follow the rules of church
One can follow the laws of State

Okotokian · #15 03-14-2016, 02:33 PM

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Since both are created and enforced by man you would think there could be compromises.

There is a compromise Etown. You just don't happen to like it apparently.

ETOWNCANUCK · #16 03-14-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

There is a compromise Etown. You just don't happen to like it apparently.

I don't like what?

Okotokian · #17 03-14-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK

I don't like what?

The compromise. That they can wear religious headgear but not cover face.

ETOWNCANUCK · #18 03-14-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

The compromise. That they can wear religious headgear but not cover face.

Then that is them following the rules of the church but not the laws of the state

Remove all head coverings for all state requirements

Plain and simple

jlgsgw · #19 03-14-2016, 03:12 PM

They came to Canada, we shouldn't have to compromise anything for them , they don't like it? The go back to the **** hole they fled from. Plain and simple, Canada's need to bend over and take it from every immigrant that comes here is sickening. All our government cares about Is making sure that everyone else's culture is safe, even if kills our own. I had the pleasure of growing up in canada , unfortunately my kids won't have that luxury, as we've let every tom , dick and Harry immigrate here and change the rules. Call me what you will, it doesn't matter, as usual the tofu eating tree huggers will call out the race card and the ones who agree with me will sit in silence for fear of being called the R word. This is why canada is heading down this slippery slope.

Okotokian · #20 03-14-2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jlgsgw

They came to Canada, we shouldn't have to compromise anything for them , they don't like it? The go back to the **** hole they fled from. .

"We" shouldn't have to compromise? What have YOU had to compromise? LOL

And what about jews?

NewAlbertan · #21 03-14-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jlgsgw

They came to Canada, we shouldn't have to compromise anything for them , they don't like it? The go back to the **** hole they fled from. Plain and simple, Canada's need to bend over and take it from every immigrant that comes here is sickening. All our government cares about Is making sure that everyone else's culture is safe, even if kills our own. I had the pleasure of growing up in canada , unfortunately my kids won't have that luxury, as we've let every tom , dick and Harry immigrate here and change the rules. Call me what you will, it doesn't matter, as usual the tofu eating tree huggers will call out the race card and the ones who agree with me will sit in silence for fear of being called the R word. This is why canada is heading down this slippery slope.

Laughable hate filled spew. Clearly you are not in fear of being called a racist. Good for you.

Did they compromise your right to where a baseball cap? Was that it? Laughable.

Kills your culture? What "culture" would that really be? The culture of intolerance you promote?

Some reading.
http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/eng/conte...otected-canada

ROA · #22 03-14-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NewAlbertan

Laughable hate filled spew. Clearly you are not in fear of being called a racist. Good for you.

Did they compromise your right to where a baseball cap? Was that it? Laughable.

Kills your culture? What "culture" would that really be? The culture of intolerance you promote?

Some reading.
http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/eng/conte...otected-canada

And Clearly you have a problem with him protecting his race and country, tell me again who's the racist?

NewAlbertan · #23 03-14-2016, 06:11 PM

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And Clearly you have a problem with him protecting his race and country, tell me again who's the racist?

And how exactly is he protecting his country? By demanding that an Oilers cap be given the same respect as a 1500 year old religious symbol?

His "race"? Less than 200 years ago, regardless of his "race", a migrant himself (his forefathers)?

And how again is it that "he" and "his race" are under attack? Needing defense?

Don't try to give any justification to what is really just an ignorance of others, leading to his fears, generating the racism.

jlgsgw · #24 03-14-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ROA

And Clearly you have a problem with him protecting his race and country, tell me again who's the racist?

It's OK, I guess a public forum bashing will make them feel like a big man, in all reality this is there only chance to say something like that, I'm sure they're well aware what would happen if they got lippy to someone in arms reach. Ah well...

Chewbacca · #25 03-14-2016, 08:17 PM

Not tinfoil but it shines, with the right amount of holes to strain out the bs and keeps me incognito. Not berry good in a rain storm though.

ram crazy · #26 03-14-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jlgsgw

They came to Canada, we shouldn't have to compromise anything for them , they don't like it? The go back to the **** hole they fled from. Plain and simple, Canada's need to bend over and take it from every immigrant that comes here is sickening. All our government cares about Is making sure that everyone else's culture is safe, even if kills our own. I had the pleasure of growing up in canada , unfortunately my kids won't have that luxury, as we've let every tom , dick and Harry immigrate here and change the rules. Call me what you will, it doesn't matter, as usual the tofu eating tree huggers will call out the race card and the ones who agree with me will sit in silence for fear of being called the R word. This is why canada is heading down this slippery slope.

Everyone can thank the late Mr. Pierre Trudeau for that!

Okotokian · #27 03-14-2016, 06:01 PM

Apparently this fellow makes a lot of members here pretty angry. Time to move with the times boys. It isn't really that terrible.

Seems like respect for and love of Canada isn't based on what you wear on your head.

jlgsgw · #28 03-14-2016, 03:22 PM

If your looking for an argument sweetheart you'll have to look elsewhere, I stated my and almost everyone I run intos opinion, you'll get over it

hjd · #29 03-13-2016, 02:41 PM

So my great,great grandfather came up to Alberta from the states in a cowboy hat. My family has been wearing them since the white man came to NA. Is this not my heritage and religion. When and where did someone else's religion and heritage" garments" start that must be recognized? And why is mine not? (right to keep on my head) Hope the hockey hat guy blows it out of the water.

catnthehat · #30 03-13-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hjd

So my great,great grandfather came up to Alberta from the states in a cowboy hat. My family has been wearing them since the white man came to NA. Is this not my heritage and religion. When and where did someone else's religion and heritage" garments" start that must be recognized? And why is mine not? (right to keep on my head) Hope the hockey hat guy blows it out of the water.

What denomination are you that requires you wear a broad brimmed hat?
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