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08-29-2017, 09:28 PM
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Any spelunkers or geologists here? Something of interest.
So I was looking on google earth at a mountain in BC for a totally unrelated reason when I noticed this. Wondering if any BC spelunkers or geologists know anything about this "hole"?
The reason it intrigues me is a century back there was a placer or silver mine on this mountain.
Here is the location... just NW of Mt. Stevens.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.84407...!3m1!1e3?hl=en
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08-29-2017, 11:42 PM
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If you scroll around that area on google maps theres a few other areas that look similar. Maybe a lake that just looks strange from aerial view?
..or the entrance to a bunker in the mountain, could be useful with N.Korea's antics lately..
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08-30-2017, 09:24 AM
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Looks like a slide that formed a small lake in its place.
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08-30-2017, 09:40 AM
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Looks like a slide that formed a small lake in its place.
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Yup.
Not many miners would bother digging a hole at the bottom of a scree slope.
Those that would....
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08-31-2017, 11:20 PM
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Yup.
Not many miners would bother digging a hole at the bottom of a scree slope.
Those that would....
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I do not think this is a little lake but is a hole. I could be wrong and thus the post.
I understand and know miners wouldn't be digging a hole below a scree slope. I am well versed in mining in BC. In the 80's I worked 2 different claims in BC with good success.
The Mt. Stevens mine was called the Monarch mine. Discovered in 1884 with the coming of the CPR. The mine produced 7% lead, 10% zinc and 1.2 ounces of silver per ton of ore. I've attached a picture. There is also mention of people encountering holes in the area, back then and presently.
Here is a modern day write up on the location. Looks like an interesting spot.
http://www.drainsofmycity.com/missio...onarchMine.pdf
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09-01-2017, 08:23 AM
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Looks like a cirque, usually filled by a lake, but created by a glacier that once occupied it. gotta love global warming. 
Grizz
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09-01-2017, 12:02 PM
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im going 100% a small lake
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09-02-2017, 09:23 PM
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Thanks for the proper location. I relied on google maps by entering Mt Stephen BC and that's where it took me. I assumed it was the right place. The right location is a more interesting location.
Whether it is a lake or hole it is interesting to have such things as google earth to explore with.
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09-03-2017, 09:49 PM
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Yes I am a caver
Have been caving for ... 19 years now I guess.
What you are looking at is certainly a cirque/small alpine lake. You can see the high water mark around the edge on the north side which coincides with the shore treeline around the west side.
More importantly, if you view it in Google Earth you can see an additional satellite photo from 2004 where the water level is much higher and the photo taken in summer. (attached)
Caves are tricky in satellite photos - there has been some discovery from aerial/sat photos but it is not common. There was a small pit cave (Which was actually named Google Cave, I think) found that way in SE BC, and a few others. Often caves entrances are under overhanging rock, or obscured by vegetation, shadows, etc.
What you really want to see from a satellite is a river or creek that disappears into solid bedrock, and maybe reappears later down the valley. Or just a large creek/spring that appears out of nowhere. Karst Spring is one such, in Kananaskis, AB, but is completely flooded. There is no doubt a vert large cave system under there somewhere.
If you are in to it there are caving clubs across Canada.
If you have any other ideas or leads about possible caves let me know! You never know. And if you discover it, convention is that you also get to name it!
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09-04-2017, 09:51 AM
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Thanks Bergman. Great info.
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09-04-2017, 09:52 AM
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At the bottom of the alluvial fan? It's a little lake.
Cheers
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Go to the 3D option and you will see it is a lake. Most mine entrances are in the side of the mountain and not straight in. Once inside the mine will go in what ever direction the ore went.
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09-05-2017, 04:16 AM
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Looks like a UFO garage.
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09-05-2017, 10:16 AM
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There are caves that are open pits, just not too many in the Rockies. But there are a few that have been found, for sure. You always have to check it out in person, just like scouting for hunting season. GE is a good start, though.
Here is the Cave of Swallows in Mexico - enormous open pit, easily seen on Google Earth. You can base jump into it. But it's entrance is pretty unique, being so large.
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