Trap Line Cabin Rules

[singleshotom]

Question came up about using a cabin by persons for reasons other then trapping!!
I know Ive read somewhere about this issue, but old age and poor eyesight has got me again! Can anyone lead me to the info on line please......
not hearsay ...... just the black and white regs..
Thnx fellow fur collectors an computer whizzes
Singleshotom

trapline cabins are for trapping only ,are not to be used for hunting ,

[singleshotom]

In what regulations does this appear??
And what section of that regulation.
Ive found some info in the 1983 Alberta forestry regs. but they have been superseded 8 times and are void of any mention.
Thnx
Singleshotom

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by guidehunt

trapline cabins are for trapping only ,are not to be used for hunting ,

Who inforces that rule?

was in office f&w other day and trapper was there asking about people hunting out of trapping line cabins and was told it is only for his use for trapping not forothers to hunt of as far as i know f&w inforce the law

[Grizzly Adams]

So, what do they do if Trapper Joe's buddies are spending the weekend there? Summary execution?
Grizz

[Rob Miskosky]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

So, what do they do if Trapper Joe's buddies are spending the weekend there? Summary execution?
Grizz

Don't forget, only the trapping rights are held by the holder, he does not own the land, just the right to trap it. With that right comes rules that have to be followed, including cabin size etc.

[mooseslayer]

I am under the impression that anyone can build a cabin as long as it doesn't have a permanent roof. The ones I have come across, apart from trappers cabin, are just a floor, walls, and rafters. The users throw a tarp over the top when they get there. Anyone else heard of this before.

[DoUCWhatIC]

Mooseslayer,

You are incorrect. No permanent structure may be constructed on crown land without authorization (simply not placing a "permanent roof" does not exempt it). Even those tent frames are considered permanent structures (the ones with 3 or 4 foot plywood walls and a plywood floor). There seems to be no consistency with enforcement. Some Forest Officers routinely post such structures and destroy (usually burn) them, other can barely get motivated to leave their offices.

There are many illegal cabins out there. Sooner or later the Lands division of Sustainable Resource Developmant will get somebody with some gumption to tackle this issue.

OR perhaps they will leave it in the hands of the Trappers DOA!

[RangerJane]

Hi all.

I realize this is an old thread but I am hoping to clear up the issue a bit.

Although I may be putting a target on my back by posting this, I am a forest officer with the lands division and part of my job is the management of cabins on public land both authorized and unauthorized.

It is true that the current cabin regulations for trappers are weak. The 1994 guidelines are the most current and are enforcable. New regulations have been in the works for a number of years and should be put in place by the fall of 2010. These regulations have been drafted through consultation with Fish and Wildlife and the ATA.

Unauthorized cabins or structures(including outhouses and tent frames) are governed under the public lands act. All unauthorized structures are usually posted and removed (burned.) However, given budget restrictions, we just cant find them all. If you happen to find an unauthorized cabin on your trapline, please report it to your lands officer. We appriciate the help!

It has been my personal experiance that the local trappers are fantastic folks to work with. They know the land and have valuable historical knowledge. I've asked trappers for help as guides into remote areas and worked with them to stop abuse of the land by disrespectful people. I believe trappers are gaining a bad reputation because a few treat their traplines like weekend getaways. Hopefully, the new guidelines will help change that. Kuddos to you real trappers who are keeping the traditions alive!

[Rob Miskosky]

Originally Posted by RangerJane

Kuddos to you real trappers who are keeping the traditions alive!

Amen to that!

[wolfkilr]

I had a good discussion with SRD on the new rules. Trappers will now get an M.L.L. instead of an M.L.P. which gives trappers occupancy. These M.L.L.'s will be tied to the trapline so if the trapline is transferred they are not seperate but go with the line.

As far as I could determine all existing structures will be grandfathered into the new system should they not comply with the new rules. (rules not policy)