Alberta Resident Hunters for Justice

At the urging of a few board members, I signed up for this group's mailing list a few weeks ago.....seems like a good place to go if you are looking for info on Open Spaces. Is there more to this group that's not on the web site....as in are there meetings and such and a more formal membership or is it just an informational service? It seems some on the board are more involved with ARHFJ than it would indicate you can be on the website. Thanks for any info.

It keeps referencing a group of individuals. Can anyone become part of this group or is membership limited?

[Dick284]

can someone post a link?

http://arhj.org/index.html

[Okotokian]

Interesting site. Did you see Eddy's response letter, saying they would take another look at Open Spaces in Cabinet? Wonder what he wrote the farmers and ranchers in favour of it? LOL Have to check their sites.

[209x50]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Interesting site. Did you see Eddy's response letter, saying they would take another look at Open Spaces in Cabinet? Wonder what he wrote the farmers and ranchers in favour of it? LOL Have to check their sites.

Good point Oko! We get so wound up with our side of the issue it easy to forget that the other side has people and votes too.

[Mintaka]

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Originally Posted by Mintaka

Thanks for the link sheep.
I never knew about this site or about this organization. Definitely worth sending to all the outdoorsman that have yet to learn about Open Spaces.

Glad to help....definitely lots of info there about Open Spaces. Although with only 108 visitors as of this morning it seems it is pretty much unknown.

I know we have a lot of people on here that use ARHJ in their signature...surely they can shed a little light on the inner working of this group???

[Jamie]

Yes, who are these guys?
I saw the web site, it doesnt help a bunch.

Jamie

[lazy ike]

Originally Posted by Jamie

Yes, who are these guys?
I saw the web site, it doesnt help a bunch.

Jamie

Alberta Resident Hunters for Justice is a group of concerned individuals whose purpose is to oppose Open Spaces.

Pretty self explanitory

How can one become part of this group Ike...other than the mailing list I mean.

Originally Posted by sheephunter

How can one become part of this group Ike...other than the mailing list I mean.

You must clearly state your opposition of Open Spaces,
No fence sitters!

Originally Posted by 340wtby

You must clearly state your opposition of Open Spaces,
No fence sitters!

I was under the impression that there were no formal membership requirements 340...thanks for clearing that up. I must admit that the website is a bit unclear about that. So once a person clearly states that, how do they become part of the group.

Originally Posted by sheephunter

I was under the impression that there were no formal membership requirements 340...thanks for clearing that up. I must admit that the website is a bit unclear about that. So once a person clearly states that, how do they become part of the group.

State your opposition to Open Spaces and find out.

Originally Posted by 340wtby

State your opposition to Open Spaces and find out.

And who would I state that to 340....who comprises the membership committee?

[Jamie]

Well, I have stated my opposition.. Do I need to go look in my mailbox for the Life member package I will be receiving.

I would just like to know who is involved, is their a Board of directors? What are the goals and ambitions, will you be involved with any negotiations of O/S.
Really guys the Web site is very narrow.

I Need more INFO!!!

Jamie

Originally Posted by sheephunter

And who would I state that to 340....who comprises the membership committee?

The group is informal, there is no corporate structure, no executive positions, no membership fees, no mission statement, and no political ties.

This is from the website, I don't know what's hard to understand about it. sheesh.

[Jamie]

340.. Fair enough. Perhaps I didn't read it closely enough the other day.. Or did the front page change?

So who is running this thing?
And what can I do to help?
Will this group be invited to sit at any tables that will be talking about and planning O/S?
And if invited, will they sit?
Are there any meetings? If so where and when?
Jamie

Originally Posted by 340wtby

The group is informal, there is no corporate structure, no executive positions, no membership fees, no mission statement, and no political ties.

This is from the website, I don't know what's hard to understand about it. sheesh.

See that's where I'm confused 340....I did read the web site thoroughly and read the section you reference but the web site also references a group of individuals so I was just curious as to whether there was more to this group or not. As a lot on here use the ARHJ in their signatures, I thought it must be more than strictly an informational web site.

Now your previous posts indicate that there is indeed more to the group and there are indeed requirements to become part of the group so I ask again....once a person meets the membership requirements (ie states opposition to OSA) how do they become part of the group as you stated they could be? Obviously you have knowledge of the inner workings of this group that I don't and obviously you are one of their spokesmen. There's nothing surreptitious going on here, I'm quite honestly just curious.

[boomstick]

as a outdoorsman concerned about the future of hunting in alberta for my children , this looks like a good way to display a united front to our mla,s that the OS is only USA pay for privlige hunting that only benifits big ranch\farm\lease operators (imo ) .
it just scares the hell out of me that they would take so many tags out of the system to give to these people an basicly declare alberta wildlife for sale.
it may only be in two zones now as a pilot project but, it will have the success it is intend to have and operators through-out the province will be watching this and want the same for themselves, (why can,t i get $10.000 for that moose growing fat on my land).
now please don,t strike me dead for my opinion or thoughts on this matter but 110,000 of use in one place at one time should be able to make ED\TED rethink this whole process and find new ways to increase wildlife and access for generations to come.

[Walleyes]

Originally Posted by 340wtby

The group is informal, there is no corporate structure, no executive positions, no membership fees, no mission statement, and no political ties.

This is from the website, I don't know what's hard to understand about it. sheesh.

You expect to be taken seriously and this is your attitude ???

No mission statement !!! then what the heck are you doin..

Sorry but you all better get organised if you expect to accomplish anything.. Till then I'll fight my own fight.. THX

[lazy ike]

I don't know any of the members personally and I am certainly not privy to any information about the membership but I would expect given the lenghty and in depth discussions on OS we have all been involved with on this board, why would they waste their time involving people who are just going to get in the way?

Originally Posted by lazy ike

I don't know any of the members personally and I am certainly not privy to any information about the membership but I would expect given the lenghty and in depth discussions on OS we have all been involved with on this board, why would they waste their time involving people who are just going to get in the way?

That would make great sense Ike but why all the secrecy for those that want to contribute in a positive way. I was actually the 12th visitor to the web site and was most impressed with the info there and that's the reason I brought to the board. It looks as though the hits on the site have doubled since I made other board members aware of the quality info available there. Now, I'm just curious about the remaider of the group and if there is a way to become more involved.

340, you should also change the web addy in your signature to http://arhj.org/index.html The one you have just takes you to a "domain name for sale" page

[lazy ike]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

That would make great sense Ike but why all the secrecy for those that want to contribute in a positive way. I was actually the 12th visitor to the web site and was most impressed with the info there and that's the reason I brought to the board. It looks as though the hits on the site have doubled since I made other board members aware of the quality info available there. Now, I'm just curious about the remaider of the group and if there is a way to become more involved.

I am as in the dark about ARHJ as the next guy but if it's a few like minded individuals trying to promote their agenda, it would stand to reason that THEY would decide who they think contributes in a positive way?

[209x50]

Originally Posted by lazy ike

I don't know any of the members personally and I am certainly not privy to any information about the membership but I would expect given the lenghty and in depth discussions on OS we have all been involved with on this board, why would they waste their time involving people who are just going to get in the way?

Kind of like why should the AFGA be invited back to the OSA table Ike?

Originally Posted by lazy ike

I am as in the dark about ARHJ as the next guy but if it's a few like minded individuals trying to promote their agenda, it would stand to reason that THEY would decide who they think contributes in a positive way?

Again I totally agree with you Ike but how does one even express an interest in becoming involved with the group or even if there is a group to become more involved with?

[lazy ike]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Again I totally agree with you Ike but how does one even express an interest in becoming involved with the group or even if there is a group to become more involved with?

I would like to walk into the temple in Cardston and ask the Elders what, if any involvement the LDS church and curch owned companies have had in this whole *****show. If I could figure out how to do that I probably could give you an answer you would be happy with.

[lazy ike]

Originally Posted by 209x50

Kind of like why should the AFGA be invited back to the OSA table Ike?

Thats called politics. I don't write the rules becuase they change every second.

Originally Posted by lazy ike

I would like to walk into the temple in Cardston and ask the Elders what, if any involvement the LDS church and curch owned companies have had in this whole *****show. If I could figure out how to do that I probably could give you an answer you would be happy with.

[lazy ike]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

I was trying to illustrate that different groups involved with this thing play by different rules. Just becuase some have or give the appearence of transparency it does not imply that everyone does or has to.